Marriott Rewards 2012 Hotel Category Changes
#106
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Again, these changes don't bother me all that much, but lack of suite upgrades and such... and again, no club lounge at the Ritz!? Is it not Marriott owned?
#107
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Thanks for the heads up, the notice is appreciated as I see one holiday I was pondering will become cheaper (Bucharest), and my upcoming trip to South Korea now needs to be finalised this weekend. A lot of hotels I recognise there moving up into Category 7... its getting towards a 35k redemption being the standard rather than 30k methinks.
You can see how much the hotel industry is booming at the moment with the effective 12% uplift.
You can see how much the hotel industry is booming at the moment with the effective 12% uplift.
#108
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OK, one piece of barely good news. Not all Category 4 properties in Downtown Philly and New Orleans have been eliminated.
Although the Courtyard Philly, will be gone, the Residence Inn next door will still stay as a Cat 4 -- this year.
In addition, the C/Y New Orleans Convention Center, the Springhill Suites Downtown and the R/I Downtown all appear to remain as Cat 4 properties.
Although the Courtyard Philly, will be gone, the Residence Inn next door will still stay as a Cat 4 -- this year.
In addition, the C/Y New Orleans Convention Center, the Springhill Suites Downtown and the R/I Downtown all appear to remain as Cat 4 properties.
Last edited by NJUPINTHEAIR; Mar 1, 2012 at 7:35 pm Reason: Amended as per Swag's observations.
#109
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It is rather ironic that the Atlanta Marriott Marquis moves up a category when Host Hotels (owner of the hotel and once called Host Marriott and a part of the chain?!) says Atlanta was the only major US hotel market to go south last year in both RevPar and Occupancy. The article appeared two or three days ago in USA Today...
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I can assure you Host's distribution in the market is not representative of the MSA, Host tends to like larger urban core hotels, Atlanta is a big market with a lot of submarkets
Last edited by socrates; Mar 1, 2012 at 11:14 am
#111
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Looks like they've hired Jeff Smisek from UA to be their consultant on downgrading value and benefits for us through the upgrading of category levels for hotels! We can now call it Marriott Mileage Plus!
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In fact, with the six full service hotels all becoming cat 6, the CY Downtown will be the only cat 5 in New Orleans.
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It's not about a hotels physical conditions, star rankings etc - it's only about the number of points redeemed versus awarded at a hotel and airport hotels award a large number of points so there must be a large number of redemptions at this hotel regardless of condition & amenities
#115
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It looks like all cat 5 Hawai'i hotels are going up to 6, and the CY in Kapa'a goes cat. 4 to 5. Isn't that the same property which couldn't make it as a Hilton, and prior to that, as a Radisson?
So only the CY Waikiki, the Waikoloa and the old Kamehameha hotel aren't going up in category, correct?
So only the CY Waikiki, the Waikoloa and the old Kamehameha hotel aren't going up in category, correct?
#116
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#117
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It looks like all cat 5 Hawai'i hotels are going up to 6, and the CY in Kapa'a goes cat. 4 to 5. Isn't that the same property which couldn't make it as a Hilton, and prior to that, as a Radisson?
So only the CY Waikiki, the Waikoloa and the old Kamehameha hotel aren't going up in category, correct?
So only the CY Waikiki, the Waikoloa and the old Kamehameha hotel aren't going up in category, correct?
the CY Waikiki will be moved up to Cat 5.
#118
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It looks like all cat 5 Hawai'i hotels are going up to 6, and the CY in Kapa'a goes cat. 4 to 5. Isn't that the same property which couldn't make it as a Hilton, and prior to that, as a Radisson?
So only the CY Waikiki, the Waikoloa and the old Kamehameha hotel aren't going up in category, correct?
So only the CY Waikiki, the Waikoloa and the old Kamehameha hotel aren't going up in category, correct?
However, there is a new CY at OGG that is a Cat 4.
As for the CY in Kauai, I believe that Honu is correct. It was a Hilton or Hampton? prior to its incarnation as a Marriott family property and it is midway between the aiport and the Na Pali coast where the St. Regis is, I believe. It is not where the Kauai Marriott nor where the Vacation properties are near the Hyatt.
#119
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. . . and if you remove the Egypt Marriotts it's even worse. No one is going there anyway.
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