Marriott Gift Cards no longer coded as "Visa"
#31
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 37
I'm sitting on a 6K+ gift card balance from last year's end of year 10% bonus. While I'm confident Marriott will get the system figured out and (more importantly) get their users educated, this is a good excuse to take advantage of the Hyatt promo for the next few weeks. Hopefully by the time I burn through 25 Hyatt nights, the Marriott Gift Card processing steps will have filtered down to the desk agents.
#32


Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: IAD
Programs: UA 4 MM, Marriott Lifetime Titanium, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,611
International? Forget about it
No way are the gift cards going to be accepted much internationally. The old ones processed as a visa got lots of blank stares and laughs internationally--but sometimes got accepted. Now it took me a week and the very helpful entire accounting team of a European Marriott to do a "forced redeem" of the givex card. This after it was rejected at three other properties and i gave up.
Marriott has done zero franchisee education on this. I am now very happy that i am down to a $14 balance.
I would LOVE it if someone could get their hands on an instruction manual for franchises to process the card as it otherwise takes an act of parliament
Marriott has done zero franchisee education on this. I am now very happy that i am down to a $14 balance.
I would LOVE it if someone could get their hands on an instruction manual for franchises to process the card as it otherwise takes an act of parliament
#33




Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: PHX
Posts: 4,815
I checked out yesterday morning, and the front desk guy had been trained on the new system. I asked him to explain it to me, which he did. He was great.
Basically, as others have mentioned, it's now a multi-step process.
The first step is to figure out how much of the card will be used. If the card balance is greater than the amount for the hotel stay, that's easy. They just take the folio amount and write it down. Otherwise, they use the entire card balance. If the customer doesn't know the amount, they check it during step two. Step two is to contact the company that administers the card. This can be done by phone or internet. Basically, the hotel needs to manually deduct the amount of the credit you need from your card through the company. If you don't know know your balance, they check it during this step. They then have the appropriate amount deducted. They get an authorization code back. Step three is to go into their system and pay your bill using a new special code and entering the authorization number.
This guy knew what he was doing, but even so it took 5 minutes. He said the trouble comes in when people have multiple smaller cards -- each needs to be run and he needs to get an authorization number for each, and then each of those needs to be entered into the system to deduct the amount on the bill. For example, if you have a 183.00 bill and four $50 gift cards, he needs to get four separate authorizations -- three for $50 each and one for $33 on the fourth card, and he has to be careful to make sure he remembers which card to give you back with the $17 on it. Then he needs to pay off your bill in 4 steps, entering each authorization number separately.
Edit: The one other thing he noted is that if they make a mistake at the property level, they're toast. They can't fix it at the property. For example, if they over deduct from your gift card, it's a problem.
Basically, as others have mentioned, it's now a multi-step process.
The first step is to figure out how much of the card will be used. If the card balance is greater than the amount for the hotel stay, that's easy. They just take the folio amount and write it down. Otherwise, they use the entire card balance. If the customer doesn't know the amount, they check it during step two. Step two is to contact the company that administers the card. This can be done by phone or internet. Basically, the hotel needs to manually deduct the amount of the credit you need from your card through the company. If you don't know know your balance, they check it during this step. They then have the appropriate amount deducted. They get an authorization code back. Step three is to go into their system and pay your bill using a new special code and entering the authorization number.
This guy knew what he was doing, but even so it took 5 minutes. He said the trouble comes in when people have multiple smaller cards -- each needs to be run and he needs to get an authorization number for each, and then each of those needs to be entered into the system to deduct the amount on the bill. For example, if you have a 183.00 bill and four $50 gift cards, he needs to get four separate authorizations -- three for $50 each and one for $33 on the fourth card, and he has to be careful to make sure he remembers which card to give you back with the $17 on it. Then he needs to pay off your bill in 4 steps, entering each authorization number separately.
Edit: The one other thing he noted is that if they make a mistake at the property level, they're toast. They can't fix it at the property. For example, if they over deduct from your gift card, it's a problem.
Last edited by lkar; Apr 18, 2011 at 12:23 pm
#34




Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Canada
Programs: Marriott LT Gold, IHG Club, Hertz Gold, Aeroplan, Avios, SkyMiles, Thrifty, AMEX
Posts: 989
I checked out yesterday morning, and the front desk guy had been trained on the new system. I asked him to explain it to me, which he did. He was great.
Basically, as others have mentioned, it's now a multi-step process.
The first step is to figure out how much of the card will be used. If the card balance is greater than the amount for the hotel stay, that's easy. They just take the folio amount and write it down. Otherwise, they use the entire card balance. If the customer doesn't know the amount, they check it during step two. Step two is to contact the company that administers the card. This can be done by phone or internet. Basically, the hotel needs to manually deduct the amount of the credit you need from your card through the company. If you don't know know your balance, they check it during this step. They then have the appropriate amount deducted. They get an authorization code back. Step three is to go into their system and pay your bill using a new special code and entering the authorization number.
This guy knew what he was doing, but even so it took 5 minutes. He said the trouble comes in when people have multiple smaller cards -- each needs to be run and he needs to get an authorization number for each, and then each of those needs to be entered into the system to deduct the amount on the bill. For example, if you have a 183.00 bill and four $50 gift cards, he needs to get four separate authorizations -- three for $50 each and one for $33 on the fourt card, and he has to be careful to make sure he remembers which card to give you back with the $17 on it. Then he needs to pay off your bill in 4 steps, entering each authorization number separately.
Edit: The one other thing he noted is that if they make a mistake at the property level, they're toast. They can't fix it at the property. For example, if they over deduct from your gift card, it's a problem.
Basically, as others have mentioned, it's now a multi-step process.
The first step is to figure out how much of the card will be used. If the card balance is greater than the amount for the hotel stay, that's easy. They just take the folio amount and write it down. Otherwise, they use the entire card balance. If the customer doesn't know the amount, they check it during step two. Step two is to contact the company that administers the card. This can be done by phone or internet. Basically, the hotel needs to manually deduct the amount of the credit you need from your card through the company. If you don't know know your balance, they check it during this step. They then have the appropriate amount deducted. They get an authorization code back. Step three is to go into their system and pay your bill using a new special code and entering the authorization number.
This guy knew what he was doing, but even so it took 5 minutes. He said the trouble comes in when people have multiple smaller cards -- each needs to be run and he needs to get an authorization number for each, and then each of those needs to be entered into the system to deduct the amount on the bill. For example, if you have a 183.00 bill and four $50 gift cards, he needs to get four separate authorizations -- three for $50 each and one for $33 on the fourt card, and he has to be careful to make sure he remembers which card to give you back with the $17 on it. Then he needs to pay off your bill in 4 steps, entering each authorization number separately.
Edit: The one other thing he noted is that if they make a mistake at the property level, they're toast. They can't fix it at the property. For example, if they over deduct from your gift card, it's a problem.
The ONLY good thing that might come out of this is that Marriott and Visa seem to have parted ways, thus probably eliminating the Visa-sponsored Megabonus promotions.
#35
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 993
In the past, I find that even if I check the balance of the cards online, I still cannot get it right for foreign transactions due to the currency charge. So if the hotel calls the administrator for a balance on the card, does this mean the balance is in local currency after the currency exchange fee?
#36


Join Date: Feb 1999
Location: San Jose, California, USA
Programs: AS Plat, UA MM, AA MM, IC Plat, Marriott Gold, Hilton Gold, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 3,167
I recently used a Marriott TravelCard to pay for a stay at the San Mateo Marriott. Lucky me, I was apparently the first one to use the card there under the new system. There was a scramble among the front desk employees, and they had to call for instructions and/or authorization. It took about 10 minutes total.
But thanks to this thread, I knew about the potential problem and allowed extra time in case it was an issue. Hopefully next time they'll know what to do, but from lkar's post, it sounds like they'll still need to call.
But thanks to this thread, I knew about the potential problem and allowed extra time in case it was an issue. Hopefully next time they'll know what to do, but from lkar's post, it sounds like they'll still need to call.
#37


Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 653
I recently used a Marriott TravelCard to pay for a stay at the San Mateo Marriott. Lucky me, I was apparently the first one to use the card there under the new system. There was a scramble among the front desk employees, and they had to call for instructions and/or authorization. It took about 10 minutes total.
But thanks to this thread, I knew about the potential problem and allowed extra time in case it was an issue. Hopefully next time they'll know what to do, but from lkar's post, it sounds like they'll still need to call.
But thanks to this thread, I knew about the potential problem and allowed extra time in case it was an issue. Hopefully next time they'll know what to do, but from lkar's post, it sounds like they'll still need to call.

#38

Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Raleigh, NC, USA
Posts: 302
And I have received full points. This is for a giftcard and not a travelcard.
#39
Company Representative - Marriott Concierge
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Salt Lake City, UT
Posts: 1,083
A few of you have expressed concern about gift cards not counting toward Visa specific promotions. Because of the numbers we have used in the past, our gift card can sometimes look like a Visa payment in our systems; however, if you are using a gift card without a Visa logo then there is no guarantee it will count toward a promotion co-sponsored with Visa. If the stay does count toward the promotion it is a fortunate error.
As far as standard earnings go, stays paid with gift cards are treated like all other stays. Paying with a gift card does not disqualify the stay from earning credit.
Regards,
Ira
As far as standard earnings go, stays paid with gift cards are treated like all other stays. Paying with a gift card does not disqualify the stay from earning credit.
Regards,
Ira
#40




Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: PHX
Posts: 4,815
Maybe he still needed more training.
#41
Join Date: Jan 2005
Programs: UA GOLD MM,WN CP A+list, HH Gold,MR LT Titanium
Posts: 2,184
Does this pertain to the Travel Cards also or is Marriott enforcing the T&Cs that state no points for use of a TC?
#43


Join Date: Feb 1999
Location: San Jose, California, USA
Programs: AS Plat, UA MM, AA MM, IC Plat, Marriott Gold, Hilton Gold, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 3,167
#45




Join Date: May 2005
Location: Chihuahua
Programs: SPG Plat, HHonor Diamond, Hyatt PLAT, Marriott PLat, UA 1K, AA EXP, DL PLAT, BMI Gold, Co PLAT
Posts: 1,992
sounds like a painful experience for international properties!!!
I checked out yesterday morning, and the front desk guy had been trained on the new system. I asked him to explain it to me, which he did. He was great.
Basically, as others have mentioned, it's now a multi-step process.
The first step is to figure out how much of the card will be used. If the card balance is greater than the amount for the hotel stay, that's easy. They just take the folio amount and write it down. Otherwise, they use the entire card balance. If the customer doesn't know the amount, they check it during step two. Step two is to contact the company that administers the card. This can be done by phone or internet. Basically, the hotel needs to manually deduct the amount of the credit you need from your card through the company. If you don't know know your balance, they check it during this step. They then have the appropriate amount deducted. They get an authorization code back. Step three is to go into their system and pay your bill using a new special code and entering the authorization number.
This guy knew what he was doing, but even so it took 5 minutes. He said the trouble comes in when people have multiple smaller cards -- each needs to be run and he needs to get an authorization number for each, and then each of those needs to be entered into the system to deduct the amount on the bill. For example, if you have a 183.00 bill and four $50 gift cards, he needs to get four separate authorizations -- three for $50 each and one for $33 on the fourth card, and he has to be careful to make sure he remembers which card to give you back with the $17 on it. Then he needs to pay off your bill in 4 steps, entering each authorization number separately.
Edit: The one other thing he noted is that if they make a mistake at the property level, they're toast. They can't fix it at the property. For example, if they over deduct from your gift card, it's a problem.
Basically, as others have mentioned, it's now a multi-step process.
The first step is to figure out how much of the card will be used. If the card balance is greater than the amount for the hotel stay, that's easy. They just take the folio amount and write it down. Otherwise, they use the entire card balance. If the customer doesn't know the amount, they check it during step two. Step two is to contact the company that administers the card. This can be done by phone or internet. Basically, the hotel needs to manually deduct the amount of the credit you need from your card through the company. If you don't know know your balance, they check it during this step. They then have the appropriate amount deducted. They get an authorization code back. Step three is to go into their system and pay your bill using a new special code and entering the authorization number.
This guy knew what he was doing, but even so it took 5 minutes. He said the trouble comes in when people have multiple smaller cards -- each needs to be run and he needs to get an authorization number for each, and then each of those needs to be entered into the system to deduct the amount on the bill. For example, if you have a 183.00 bill and four $50 gift cards, he needs to get four separate authorizations -- three for $50 each and one for $33 on the fourth card, and he has to be careful to make sure he remembers which card to give you back with the $17 on it. Then he needs to pay off your bill in 4 steps, entering each authorization number separately.
Edit: The one other thing he noted is that if they make a mistake at the property level, they're toast. They can't fix it at the property. For example, if they over deduct from your gift card, it's a problem.

