Jan 5, 2024, 12:07 am

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Wik post on how many elite nights you can get from different Marriott Credit Cards

Which countries have cards, and how much can I earn?

Country | Card| Personal/Business | #Elite nights | Annual fee
USA | Bonvoy Brilliant AMEX | Personal | 25 nights | USD650
USA | Bonvoy Brilliant AMEX for Business | Business| 15 nights | USD125
USA | Marriott Bonvoy Boundless® Credit Card from Chase | Personal | 15 nights | USD95
USA | Marriott Bonvoy Bold® Credit Card from Chase | Personal | 15 nights | Free (0)
USA | Marriott Bonvoy Bevy™ American Express® Card | Personal | 15 nights | USD250
UK | Bonvoy Credit Card | Personal | 15 nights | GBP95 (~120USD)
Japan | Marriott Bonvoy® American Express® Premium Card| 15 nights| JPY 49,500 (USD $330)
Japan | Marriott Bonvoy® American Express® Card| 5 nights| JPY 23,100 (USD $155)
Korea | Marriott Bonvoy® The Best Shinhan | Personal | 10 nights | KRW 267,000 (~200USD)
India | Marriott Bonvoy® HDFC Bank Credit Card | Personal | 10 nights | INR 3,540 (~43 USD, including tax)
Canada | Marriott Bonvoy® American Express® Card | Personal | 15 nights | CAD 120 (~90 USD)
Canada | Marriott Bonvoy® Business American Express® Card | Business | 15 nights | CAD 150 (~110 USD)
China | CITIC Marriott Bonvoy ® Gold Card | Personal | 5 nights | 200 RMB (~30USD)
China | CITIC Marriott Bonvoy ® Platinum Card | Personal | 10 nights | 980 RMB (~140USD)
China | CITIC Marriott Bonvoy ® Premium Card | Personal | 15 nights | 6800 RMB (~950USD)

Note:
This list focuses on night earnings, the cards offer other benefits including free nights, points earned per spending and so on, and some offer elite status as well as the nights credit, so you may get gold status, plus 15 nights for example (China's Premium card). Exchanges rates last updated wholesale as of January 2024

Do the nights stack?
Yes, as far as we can tell, they do when you are combining non-US and US nights, and at least one poster has had success in getting extra nights from India or Japan

When do the points post?
Shortly after you get the card, and on 1 January of each year

Could I get status without ever staying in a Marriott hotel?
Yes, as far we can tell you could. But getting these credit cards in multiple countries may be a challenge! The Japan Premium card grants platinum status with ¥4,000,000 spend, no stays required.

Are there special rules?
Yes, in the USA you can only get a maximum of 40 nights of credit, no matter how many cards you get, from the T&Cs:
[Quote = Amex/Marriott Website in January 2024]
To be eligible to receive the 15 Elite Night Credits with this Card, you must be the Basic Card Member, and you must have an active Marriott Bonvoy Member Account linked to your Card Account. A maximum of 15 Elite Night Credits will be provided per Marriott Bonvoy Member Account, unless you have both an open Marriott Bonvoy Business® American Express® Card account and an open Marriott Bonvoy Bevy™ American Express® Card account; or, you have both an open Marriott Bonvoy Business® American Express® Card account and an open Marriott Bonvoy® American Express® Card account. Then, you may receive a combined maximum of 30 Elite Night Credits (15 per Card account). If you have both an open Marriott Bonvoy Business® American Express® Card account and an open Marriott Bonvoy Brilliant® American Express® Card account, you may receive a combined maximum of 40 Elite Night Credits (15 Elite Night Credits as a benefit of an eligible Marriott Bonvoy Business Card account plus 25 Elite Night Credits as a benefit of an eligible Marriott Bonvoy Brilliant American Express Card account). This benefit is not exclusive to Cards offered by American Express.
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Jan 4, 2024, 6:24 am

#16

uinoka

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DP: It worked. Elite nights from US and Japan personal cards will stack and aren't mutually exclusive.

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Jan 4, 2024, 6:10 pm

#17

JapanFlyerT

Join Date: Feb 2008

Location: Kobe, Japan

Programs: Bonvoy Platinum, IHG Diamond, Hyatt Discoverist

Posts: 1,539

Quote:

Originally Posted by uinoka

DP: It worked. Elite nights from US and Japan personal cards will stack and aren't mutually exclusive.

Great news for people like us.
Hopefully this doesn't get shut down, though in truth if they are giving away up to 40 nights in the US or automatic platinum for a high spend, it really isn't a big "freebie" given the high annual fee.

How long did your application take to process, and how long after that did the the nights post?

Jan 4, 2024, 10:05 pm

#18

uinoka

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I should have tracked more closely, but it was roughly one business day each for the application review and for the nights to post, all during the first few days of the new year (a very rough one in Japan, too).

Jan 4, 2024, 11:39 pm

#19

Xiaotung

Join Date: May 2005

Location: Sydney, Australia

Programs: NZ*G, MAR Titanium, HLT Diamond

Posts: 3,630

Has anyone asked the obvious question? Could someone achieve 75 nights without a single stay with cards from more than 2 countries?

Jan 5, 2024, 12:00 am

#20

austin_modern

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiaotung

Has anyone asked the obvious question? Could someone achieve 75 nights without a single stay with cards from more than 2 countries?

My guess is if you have access to having 5 credit cards across different countries you probably travel extensively and have access enough to pay for some hotel night stays. I know its the FlyerTalk thing to do to ask questions that are on the fringe of ridiculous.

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Jan 5, 2024, 12:05 am

#21

littlevoices

Join Date: Jul 2008

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiaotung

Has anyone asked the obvious question? Could someone achieve 75 nights without a single stay with cards from more than 2 countries?

Jan 5, 2024, 12:09 am

#22

littlevoices

Join Date: Jul 2008

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Note, I've put together a list (as a wiki) of the card earning here:
Elite nights stacking with credit cards from different countries?
Seems across all the countries you could easily get Titanium, and indeed over 100 nights, if you wanted a challenge!

Jan 5, 2024, 12:15 am

#23

Xiaotung

Join Date: May 2005

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Quote:

Originally Posted by littlevoices

There are also cards issued in China that you missed. I expect Marriott to launch cards in even more countries as they probably have realized they can do more than airlines as Marriott is everywhere. And selling points to banks is a lucrative business.

Jan 5, 2024, 12:26 am

#24

spgcow

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Posts: 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by littlevoices

With exchange rate where it is at for the Japan premium card it is actually about $100 cheaper, might pick this up now. I believe the non-premium AMEX for Japan only gives 5 nights.

Jan 5, 2024, 12:29 am

#25

littlevoices

Join Date: Jul 2008

Location: HKG

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiaotung

Added China to the list as they were easy to find, this is a wiki so it's easy for everyone to add themselves

Quote:

Originally Posted by spgcow

With exchange rate where it is at for the Japan premium card it is actually about $100 cheaper, might pick this up now. I believe the non-premium AMEX for Japan only gives 5 nights.

Yes I noted the same, have updated the exchange rate on USD. That poor JPY....

Also realised there are 2 Chase cards in the US, added them too. How come nobody has done the US Amex + Chase, surely they stack to many nights to begin, or is there a special ban on that? [Edit: Answered myself and added the the FAQ, the USA itself maxes out at 40 nights per year]

Last edited by littlevoices; Jan 5, 2024 at 12:34 am

Jan 5, 2024, 1:01 am

#26

uinoka

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Join Date: Aug 2019

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Slow down. Past report says US, UK, Canada cards adds up to a total of 30 w/o premium card, and 40 w/ premium card. You have to cross into other countries to go above 40. The possible candidates are cards from CJK, India and UAE.

Last edited by uinoka; Jan 5, 2024 at 1:08 am

Jan 5, 2024, 11:10 am

#27

Expatriate

Join Date: May 2002

Posts: 218

For the countries below, is it possible to get an Amex card : 1. being non-resident and 2. no tax-ID 3. bank account outside those countries and 4. pre-load money or otherwise secure the Amex card?
a. USA ?
b. UK ?
c. Japan ?
d. UAE ?

Have assets. Have plenty income from assets. Retired (no salary) with no pension. Non- USA/UK/UAE/Japan resident. Say $100 (incl tax) spend for Plat Challenge 16 nights = $1,600 for what 1. free breakfasts 2. possible upgrades 3. lounge access where lounges exist (from what i've read on FT: in USA & Canada, often don;t get upgrades Mexico?)

Jan 5, 2024, 1:20 pm

#28

vishalgupta22

Join Date: Mar 2011

Location: BOS

Programs: BA Gold, AA Platinum, SQ Gold, Marriott Titanium

Posts: 1,585

littlevoices thanks for compiling this, it's extremely useful.

Can you please edit the AF of the Indian card. It's INR 3540 (3000 + 18% tax) and it's US equivalent will be 43 USD

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Jan 5, 2024, 7:18 pm

#29

JapanFlyerT

Join Date: Feb 2008

Location: Kobe, Japan

Programs: Bonvoy Platinum, IHG Diamond, Hyatt Discoverist

Posts: 1,539

Quote:

Originally Posted by Expatriate

I am 99% sure you need a Japanese bank account, and it is impossible to get one without a resident's card or citizenship. Plus, these days banks require a tax ID number.

Jan 5, 2024, 7:31 pm

#30

JapanFlyerT

Join Date: Feb 2008

Location: Kobe, Japan

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Posts: 1,539

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xiaotung

Has anyone asked the obvious question? Could someone achieve 75 nights without a single stay with cards from more than 2 countries?

Interesting idea, but probably not worthwhile to go for Titanium without an actual stay.

US Brilliant personal 25
US Chase business 15
Japan Premium 15
Elite night bonus 5 for reaching 50
3 free nights
All that would get you to 63.
Spending on Chase for extra nights $5000=1 night, so $60,000.

It seems to be possible, but the spend requirements are substantial, not to mention the annual fees add up.

Another route for travelers in Asia: 6 cheap ($50) stays in China, Thailand or India during a 2-1
I imagine there are similar deals on other continents if you look hard enough and can travel off-season.

Of course it begs the question why one would do so.

For myself, I stay about 10 nights a year. Half on points/awards, the other half paid. Having Platinum is worthwhile for me.

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