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cbn42 Apr 1, 2022 3:58 am


Originally Posted by arlflyer (Post 34121873)
I'm the outlier who doesn't really miss housekeeping in the purest sense. Room service and lounges? Yes, bring them back, as they're useful to me for business travel. Cleaning up all the garbage that guests throw into the hallways overnight? Absolutely. But I don't actually miss someone barging into my room at a random point each day, regardless of whether I have the DND sign out, just to fluff my pillows and rearrange my toiletries because they think it is cute (gross).

To be clear - since different guests have different needs / expectations, hotels should absolutely be transparent with what they're offering. Heck, I can even picture a simple matrix / chart on each hotel's website - what is open / offered (daily housekeeping, lounges, room service, pool, etc.) with a simple tick mark or not in each box.

I agree, and I don't think we are outliers. I haven't heard anyone complain about lack of housekeeping in real life, it seems to occur mostly on the internet where people don't have to reveal who they are.

At this point, most of the major chains do not provide daily housekeeping, and haven't for over a year. So if anyone cares so much about that service, I think it's on them to verify that it is available.

WillBarrett_68 Apr 1, 2022 6:42 am


Originally Posted by Kacee (Post 34119486)
Do you recognize the irony of forwarding the complaint to the same "management team" that is deliberately refusing to provide a basic service after the guest has already complained, all in the name of cost savings?

Perhaps you could address your comments to Marriott corporate management that it needs to enforce basic service standards at supposedly "full service" properties.

I'm not sure why the lurker is getting all this pushback. They aren't setting the policy, what do yall expect this person to do, exactly? They can't force the property to do anything. They're literally just a messenger.

jimrpa Apr 1, 2022 8:44 am


Originally Posted by cubeman (Post 34117542)
In Orlando Housekeeping is still a myth in anything outside the Swan/Dolphin/Swan Reserve. Everything is by request and they don't tell you so they get away with at-least a day or two of not refreshing rooms or no service at all unless you stay 7+ days. It's a joke and the only way to begin to solve this is if it's not mentioned in the "What to expect" when you check-in is to say cancel it/refund and go to a different hotel which is what I did.

Crazy how we went from "we have to service you room every 3 days as safety/wellness check" to "yeah go stay in the room for two weeks who cares just throw your trash out the door"

lol, I have to beg for housekeeping at SDSR as a titanium and I’m lucky if I get it. TBH, I think the issue is finding people who are willing to work in housekeeping.

jimrpa Apr 1, 2022 8:47 am


Originally Posted by KRSW (Post 34125600)
I did experience this with some Hilton properties in 2020/2021, but have not experienced this with any Hilton properties in 2022. The maddening part is that hotels in the areas I've been (primarily Florida) are charging 3x-5x more than their pre-pandemic rates. Inflation's bad, but it's not THAT bad.

yes, inflation at non-Disney hotels at Disney World (on property and Bonnet Creek) is INSANE! The stupid Bonnet Creek JW seems to be in a rate war with the WA to see who can raise their rates higher! And the JW doesn’t get any Disney benefits.

jimrpa Apr 1, 2022 8:48 am

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HHQX888 Apr 1, 2022 9:38 am


Originally Posted by cbn42 (Post 34126183)
At this point, most of the major chains do not provide daily housekeeping, and haven't for over a year. So if anyone cares so much about that service, I think it's on them to verify that it is available.

At Hiltons, Hyatts Europe and Asia we don't have this problems like you sugessted. Maybe different 'major' chains ...

Pretzelsandpeanuts Apr 2, 2022 5:34 pm

I really don’t need room service every day, in fact I leave the do not disturb sign on my door, but this does seem like a clear cost cutting move under the excuse of Covid.

The simple fact is hotels can’t pay minimum wage for what is a difficult job and expect people to work in housekeeping when other higher paying and easier (physically) jobs are available. But they don’t want to increase salaries so they just cut back on what is a basic service at a hotel (especially a full service hotel)

cbn42 Apr 2, 2022 6:42 pm


Originally Posted by HHQX888 (Post 34126987)
At Hiltons, Hyatts Europe and Asia we don't have this problems like you sugessted. Maybe different 'major' chains ...

Or maybe service standards are different in different markets. The US has always had higher labor costs, and therefore more limited services, than Asia. I'm not sure what the situation is in Europe with housekeeping, but some hotels there have cut back on other things like breakfast.

HHQX888 Apr 2, 2022 7:42 pm


Originally Posted by cbn42 (Post 34131248)
Or maybe service standards are different in different markets. The US has always had higher labor costs, and therefore more limited services, than Asia. I'm not sure what the situation is in Europe with housekeeping, but some hotels there have cut back on other things like breakfast.

Always we find explanation to our situation, but look at prices which you pay for Asia, EU and US this same brand rooms. US labor costs higher than EU ??? Why all asking about tipping ...

nacho Apr 3, 2022 2:47 pm


Originally Posted by cbn42 (Post 34131248)
Or maybe service standards are different in different markets. The US has always had higher labor costs, and therefore more limited services, than Asia. I'm not sure what the situation is in Europe with housekeeping, but some hotels there have cut back on other things like breakfast.

It doesn't explain the jump from $100 a night to $250. Free breakfast is not common in Denmark, Germany, France etc. At HI Hamburg Nord, Germany, daily housekeeping was back, and if you don't want it, you get 500 IHG points or a gift per night. I also stayed at CY Hamburg - very different situation, housekeeping only every 3rd days only, no option to request extra (maybe they have changed their policy since). 2 hotels in the same city and with different policies.

bigshooter Apr 3, 2022 5:42 pm

They need to bring back make a green choice if Hotels don't want to provide the service. I remember when you could get 500 SPG points for declining service... I'd skip it the whole time and just ask for extra towels if it was a long stay.

I'd take 1000 Bonvoy points a night to skip house keeping by choice rather than rolling the dice.

gudugan Apr 3, 2022 5:44 pm


Originally Posted by bigshooter (Post 34133847)
They need to bring back make a green choice if Hotels don't want to provide the service. I remember when you could get 500 SPG points for declining service... I'd skip it the whole time and just ask for extra towels if it was a long stay.

I'd take 1000 Bonvoy points a night to skip house keeping by choice rather than rolling the dice.

Yes, this is the solution. Also bring back SPG while you're at it

bigshooter Apr 3, 2022 5:46 pm


Originally Posted by Orange County Commuter (Post 34124170)
and as I said if management at this hotel had stated that then it’s not a complaint on here. But they are just hoping we won’t notice and then trying to pretend it’s to protect me 😂

I fully understand and agree with your frustration. The issue is hotel owners are using the losses from Covid to be cheap and not provide service. At some point they'll need to step things up, but the only quick way is for Marriott to start enforcing brand standards vs spending all their time appeasing owners by increasing points redemptions.

What did the front desk say when you went down there to inquire about when house keeping will actually occur?

HNLbasedFlyer Apr 3, 2022 5:49 pm

Just stayed at a fairly high end resort in the Phoenix area - not a chain but luxury property. They made it clear my Thursday to Sunday stay would not get daily housekeeping. And no, couldn’t storm out as it was a work retreat.

Not unique to Marriott.

nacho Apr 4, 2022 2:14 am


Originally Posted by bigshooter (Post 34133847)
They need to bring back make a green choice if Hotels don't want to provide the service. I remember when you could get 500 SPG points for declining service... I'd skip it the whole time and just ask for extra towels if it was a long stay.

I'd take 1000 Bonvoy points a night to skip house keeping by choice rather than rolling the dice.

Don't be greedy :D I'm perfectly happy with 500 points a night. RIP SPG.


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