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Merits of Marriott Hotels Strike 2018
Dec 2, 2018, 8:15 pm
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Dec 2, 2018, 8:40 pm
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Ok what I would suggest you might do is actually find the President of the Local #2 TOTAL compensation then look up the internationals President's TOTAL package, Union's do a great job of masking total packages. The look at the average income of a Hawaiian then look at the final agreed amount by housekeepers and you tell me.
Dec 3, 2018, 10:26 am
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With housekeepers now getting such high wages, I guess we won't see any more Marriott tip envelopes as tips are no longer necessary at these hotels.
Dec 3, 2018, 12:56 pm
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Average Salary in Honolulu, Hawaii
Average Salary
$53,427How do you compare?
Trends in Wages
-0.8%in Q2 2018
Dec 3, 2018, 12:57 pm
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Dec 3, 2018, 12:58 pm
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another source 
5,103 USD per month
Average Monthly Salary
A person working in Hawaii typically earns
How much money does a person working in Hawaii make?
5,103 USD per monthAverage Monthly Salary
A person working in Hawaii typically earns
Dec 3, 2018, 2:54 pm
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Looks like the Marriott strike is ending in SF:
https://www.sfchronicle.com/business...photo-16427646
https://www.sfchronicle.com/business...photo-16427646
Dec 3, 2018, 4:37 pm
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Well - that just isn't true. Your numbers are median household income in Honolulu (and your number is a bit on the high side) It is much less on the other islands. So, if 2 housekeepers live in the same household, they are right about the median household income, pretty good for an unskilled worker.
The people of Oahu would be thrilled if individual median income was anywhere near $87K year.
HUD considers a family of four making $83,700 as "low income"
HUD: $83,700 a year is now considered low-income in Honolulu
The people of Oahu would be thrilled if individual median income was anywhere near $87K year.
HUD considers a family of four making $83,700 as "low income"
HUD: $83,700 a year is now considered low-income in Honolulu
Dec 3, 2018, 4:58 pm
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Well - that just isn't true. Your numbers are median household income in Honolulu (and your number is a bit on the high side) It is much less on the other islands. So, if 2 housekeepers live in the same household, they are right about the median household income, pretty good for an unskilled worker.
The people of Oahu would be thrilled if individual median income was anywhere near $87K year.
HUD considers a family of four making $83,700 as "low income"
HUD: $83,700 a year is now considered low-income in Honolulu
The people of Oahu would be thrilled if individual median income was anywhere near $87K year.
HUD considers a family of four making $83,700 as "low income"
HUD: $83,700 a year is now considered low-income in Honolulu
Dec 3, 2018, 6:34 pm
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Well - that just isn't true. Your numbers are median household income in Honolulu (and your number is a bit on the high side) It is much less on the other islands. So, if 2 housekeepers live in the same household, they are right about the median household income, pretty good for an unskilled worker.
The people of Oahu would be thrilled if individual median income was anywhere near $87K year.
HUD considers a family of four making $83,700 as "low income"
HUD: $83,700 a year is now considered low-income in Honolulu
The people of Oahu would be thrilled if individual median income was anywhere near $87K year.
HUD considers a family of four making $83,700 as "low income"
HUD: $83,700 a year is now considered low-income in Honolulu
Dec 3, 2018, 8:46 pm
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Well - that just isn't true. Your numbers are median household income in Honolulu (and your number is a bit on the high side) It is much less on the other islands. So, if 2 housekeepers live in the same household, they are right about the median household income, pretty good for an unskilled worker.
The people of Oahu would be thrilled if individual median income was anywhere near $87K year.
HUD considers a family of four making $83,700 as "low income"
HUD: $83,700 a year is now considered low-income in Honolulu
The people of Oahu would be thrilled if individual median income was anywhere near $87K year.
HUD considers a family of four making $83,700 as "low income"
HUD: $83,700 a year is now considered low-income in Honolulu
Dec 4, 2018, 10:29 am
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I find it more accurate, as it reflects on whether the striking housekeeper would need to have a second job, instead, having a partner/spouse with income. I never said that it was adequate income for HI, given the high cost of living there. I blame the low quality of the US educational system and the breakdown in the family unit resulting in children not learning to read and reason adequately. Thanks for playing though.
OK Moderator let's do a reset
Dec 4, 2018, 9:33 pm
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