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How will my Eligible Status Years for 2022 be applied to my Account and when?

If you maintained the same Elite status in 2022 that you started with in 2022 , your 2022 Eligible Status Year for your current status will be applied to your Account in January 2023.

If you achieved a higher Elite status during 2022, your 2022 Eligible Status Year for the new, higher tier was applied at the time of achievement.

If you did not meet the published criteria to renew your current status in 2022, your 2022 Eligible Status Year for your current status will be added in January 2023, and your Eligible Status Year for your new status will be added in March 2023 when your Elite status is updated.

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When will my 2021 qualifying year of Elite status be applied to my Account so I can track my path to Lifetime Elite Status?


As part of our regular process, Members receive their qualifying year towards Lifetime Elite status in one of two ways:
  1. If you maintain the same Elite level that you started the year with, your Qualifying Year of Elite status will be applied to your Account in January of the following year. Please Note: In November 2021, when we extended the Elite status that Members earned in 2019 or 2020, Members received their 2021 Qualifying Year of Elite status.
  2. If you achieve a higher Elite level during the year than the previous year, your Qualifying Year for the new, higher level will be applied at the time of achievement. Please Note: If you achieved a higher Elite level during 2021, your 2021 qualifying year of Elite status, was applied at the time of achievement.

If you maintain the same Elite level for 2022, your 2022 year of Elite status will be applied to your Account in January 2023. If you achieve a higher Elite level during 2022, your 2022 year of tenure for the new, higher level will be applied at the time of achievement.

Examples:
  • A Member achieved Gold Elite in 2019 and enjoyed the status in 2020. They received their 2020 year of Gold Elite status in July 2020 when we extended their status. Due to status extensions, the Member received their 2021 year of tenure in November 2021 when they their status was extended to February 2023.
  • A Member achieved Platinum Elite in 2020 and enjoyed the status in 2021. They received their 2021 year of Platinum status in November 2021 when they their status was extended to February 2023.
  • A Gold Elite Member achieved Platinum Elite in April 2021; the Platinum year of Elite status for 2021 was applied upon achievement (in April 2021).
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Old Dec 27, 2018, 4:59 pm
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Originally Posted by Parikh1234
Thats been my issue. Would have glady booked the nights in December but I have been fighting to make sure I could get those 25 back. I didnt want to pay for 15 more nights for no reason if they werent giving me back the 25. Now its too late

Hope that makes sense. In an ideal situation, I would have just booked the 40 nights in November but it took SOOO long for anyone to even get back to me. I didnt want to drop a few thousand dollars if it wasnt going to happen to just get the nights.
I am in a similar situation coming from the Marriott side. Unfortunately, i've resigned myself to being stuck not reaching LTPP (potentially forever).
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Old Dec 27, 2018, 5:22 pm
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@Parikh1234:
If you have screenshots of both accounts saying "Lifetime nights", really, what could be the reason they reduce those clearly mentioned lifetime nights after combining your accounts?
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Old Dec 27, 2018, 9:54 pm
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I achieved SPG/Marriott Lifetime Platinum status more than a week ago with 500 SPG stays and 10+ SPG Plat years.

My SPG website account continues to show 500 nights, but the old Lifetime Gold status and says I have 100 stays to Lifetime Platinum.

Called SPG Platinum line. Rep didn't seem to have much of a clue, even about Lifetime status. Said wait a while for the system to recognize the new status...that's now 6-7 days. He clearly had no clue.

I did a direct Tweet to Marriott Rewards with a screenshot of my SPG account, and no response.

I am really not worried about the company figuring this out at some point. But, you'd think that a customer service company that has a customer achieve among its highest thresholds would reach out and embrace that customer.

This is the opposite of that, and honestly, it's a big turn off.
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Old Dec 28, 2018, 12:38 am
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Originally Posted by nologic
I achieved SPG/Marriott Lifetime Platinum status more than a week ago with 500 SPG stays and 10+ SPG Plat years.

My SPG website account continues to show 500 nights, but the old Lifetime Gold status and says I have 100 stays to Lifetime Platinum.

Called SPG Platinum line. Rep didn't seem to have much of a clue, even about Lifetime status. Said wait a while for the system to recognize the new status...that's now 6-7 days. He clearly had no clue.

I did a direct Tweet to Marriott Rewards with a screenshot of my SPG account, and no response.

I am really not worried about the company figuring this out at some point. But, you'd think that a customer service company that has a customer achieve among its highest thresholds would reach out and embrace that customer.

This is the opposite of that, and honestly, it's a big turn off.
Hi nologic,

Thank you for your feedback on our customer service. Please accept our apologies for any inconveniences you have come across.

For members who earn Lifetime Elite Status under Legacy Program requirements, they will be notified of this Lifetime Elite status achievement through the Legacy Program requirements and benefits will begin in January 2019.

Best Regards,

Christina Zhou
Social Media Specialist
Marriott International

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Old Dec 28, 2018, 7:21 am
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Originally Posted by decentmove
@Parikh1234:
If you have screenshots of both accounts saying "Lifetime nights", really, what could be the reason they reduce those clearly mentioned lifetime nights after combining your accounts?
My guess is even MPG IT does not trust what it system says and wants to get to the original data to recompute. It's not clear if the OP's data is pre-merger (in August) or pre-combination (sometime after merger), many mix those terms. My bet is it is as of pre-combination and during a period where MPG added annual nights to LT nights that hopefully they have corrected for everyone by now.
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Old Dec 28, 2018, 8:50 am
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Originally Posted by Parikh1234
Thats been my issue. Would have glady booked the nights in December but I have been fighting to make sure I could get those 25 back. I didnt want to pay for 15 more nights for no reason if they werent giving me back the 25. Now its too late

Hope that makes sense. In an ideal situation, I would have just booked the 40 nights in November but it took SOOO long for anyone to even get back to me. I didnt want to drop a few thousand dollars if it wasnt going to happen to just get the nights.
I ended up with the opposite problem. Since I have both personal and business MR and SPG cards, I was unsure how many nights would count towards LT status. Since this is presumably the last time to qualify for LTPP, I paid for meeting rooms that might have been provided complementary. In the end, I received credit for both my personal and business MR cards and multiple rooms booked at the same hotel and will end up with about 40 extra nights. Although I would make the same decision again if presented with the same information, it would have been nice to have better information before it was too late to adjust stay patterns.
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Old Dec 28, 2018, 11:39 am
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Originally Posted by RogerD408
My guess is even MPG IT does not trust what it system says and wants to get to the original data to recompute. It's not clear if the OP's data is pre-merger (in August) or pre-combination (sometime after merger), many mix those terms. My bet is it is as of pre-combination and during a period where MPG added annual nights to LT nights that hopefully they have corrected for everyone by now.
It is pre-merger. I was on the phone with my ambassador and took the screenshots before authorizing her to combine the accounts. The pictures have the timestamp on them from my iphone. I have a picture of the status and lifetime pages from both apps (total of 4 screenshots).
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Old Dec 28, 2018, 11:41 am
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Originally Posted by decentmove
@Parikh1234:
If you have screenshots of both accounts saying "Lifetime nights", really, what could be the reason they reduce those clearly mentioned lifetime nights after combining your accounts?
This is exactly the point I made with the merger rep I was talking to. Their only response with either show us an "e-statement" or sorry.
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Old Dec 28, 2018, 11:48 am
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I had a pleasant conversation with the CSR at Marriot after the merger. She basically said I am Plat Elite, will maintain that status forever and would not have the chance to achieve any higher level before the end of the year. I thanked her and started working on Hilton Lifetime Diamond.
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Old Dec 28, 2018, 11:54 am
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Originally Posted by Parikh1234
Thats been my issue. Would have glady booked the nights in December but I have been fighting to make sure I could get those 25 back. I didnt want to pay for 15 more nights for no reason if they werent giving me back the 25. Now its too late

Hope that makes sense. In an ideal situation, I would have just booked the 40 nights in November but it took SOOO long for anyone to even get back to me. I didnt want to drop a few thousand dollars if it wasnt going to happen to just get the nights.
I certainly empathize with your situation, but I think you're looking at an uphill battle just to get to a longshot. With enough persistence and the right escalation, I think there's a non-zero chance you might get the missing nights added back. But it seems really unlikely that you'll be granted an extension past 12/31 to then stay the additional nights and have those 2019 nights count towards LTPP. The fact that Marriott has delayed LTPP recognition for everyone who has met the criteria since the August merge date makes it obvious that IT intends to do a single batch run in January to identify LTPPs, and once that is done, it's closed forever.
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Old Dec 28, 2018, 12:04 pm
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Originally Posted by swag
I certainly empathize with your situation, but I think you're looking at an uphill battle just to get to a longshot. With enough persistence and the right escalation, I think there's a non-zero chance you might get the missing nights added back. But it seems really unlikely that you'll be granted an extension past 12/31 to then stay the additional nights and have those 2019 nights count towards LTPP. The fact that Marriott has delayed LTPP recognition for everyone who has met the criteria since the August merge date makes it obvious that IT intends to do a single batch run in January to identify LTPPs, and once that is done, it's closed forever.
I totally agree my chance is almost non-existant. My only hope was that I could prove that they took so long in getting back to me that someone would sympathize with me. It would be a week before I got a response at times. The situation could have been handled much quicker (even my ambassador was shocked it was taking so long).

I wish I could just lay out all the email proof / screen shots / etc to someone high enough that could help and give me a sliver of a chance of getting LTPP.

Its not like I just sat around and waiting till the last minute to try and get a no-excuse extension.
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Old Dec 28, 2018, 6:05 pm
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Originally Posted by Parikh1234
This is exactly the point I made with the merger rep I was talking to. Their only response with either show us an "e-statement" or sorry.
OK.

What exactly is an "e-statement"?
And where can I get one in time (before Dec.31) that shows my lifetime nights for both of my still un-combined and un-merged and un-linked or whatsoever accounts?

Many thanks.
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Old Dec 28, 2018, 6:09 pm
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Originally Posted by Parikh1234
It is pre-merger. I was on the phone with my ambassador and took the screenshots before authorizing her to combine the accounts. The pictures have the timestamp on them from my iphone. I have a picture of the status and lifetime pages from both apps (total of 4 screenshots).
Sorry, still not clear. pre-merger would be before Aug 18th. If you were on the phone and authorized the combination that had to have been post-merger since the accounts could not be combined until a few days after the merger. The point of my post was that many people got double counts in their accounts after the merger and those were taken back in batches once discovered. If you have the numbers from before the merger that's what you should have had after the merger. There could be other reasons for the numbers to differ so you need a firm footing supporting what it should be.
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Old Dec 28, 2018, 6:38 pm
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Originally Posted by Parikh1234
Thats been my issue. Would have glady booked the nights in December but I have been fighting to make sure I could get those 25 back. I didnt want to pay for 15 more nights for no reason if they werent giving me back the 25. Now its too late

Hope that makes sense. In an ideal situation, I would have just booked the 40 nights in November but it took SOOO long for anyone to even get back to me. I didnt want to drop a few thousand dollars if it wasnt going to happen to just get the nights.
I have some long standing issues with my MR (Ritz Carlton) account, namely that I can't register for promotions online (like MegaBonus) and I never get emails when they come out, so I have to come on here and then hope the CSR when I call in can register me for them. It doesn't always work. Anyway, I blew a gasket and emailed David Flueck and got an Ambassador who continues to work on it for me. I get all my confirmation/cancellation emails but not a single promo and I'm registered. I even gave them my account login to verify and they confirmed I'm registered to receive all emails. It is pretty frustrating. But they are working on it now.

Anyway, my point is that in future similar instances, find a higher up and figure out their email address and you'll get care right away. My issues are bigger than that but at least I know I have the right ear.
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Old Dec 29, 2018, 6:11 am
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Originally Posted by bergamini
I have some long standing issues with my MR (Ritz Carlton) account, namely that I can't register for promotions online (like MegaBonus) and I never get emails when they come out, so I have to come on here and then hope the CSR when I call in can register me for them. It doesn't always work. Anyway, I blew a gasket and emailed David Flueck and got an Ambassador who continues to work on it for me. I get all my confirmation/cancellation emails but not a single promo and I'm registered. I even gave them my account login to verify and they confirmed I'm registered to receive all emails. It is pretty frustrating. But they are working on it now.

Anyway, my point is that in future similar instances, find a higher up and figure out their email address and you'll get care right away. My issues are bigger than that but at least I know I have the right ear.
This is the biggest issue with trying to get something fixed, finding someone that has the willingness/ability to actually do something. It seems the days of CSRs being advocates of the customer have morphed into being defenders of the company. I find most reports of issues are countered with excuses why it is that way. The bean counters and efficiency consultants are placing performance metrics on the support function and it just doesn't work. If the company had a better product then a smaller support staff is needed, if at all. But that's not going to be happening anytime soon as we start becoming their testing platform putting things out before they are ready. Do we need any better proof than what has happened with Marriott?

Congrats on getting the right attention. I hope it works for you.
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