May 2, 2022, 8:48 pm
Last edit by: gudugan
How to View Lifetime Status: https://help.marriott.com/s/article/Article-22489
Lifetime Status Details: https://help.marriott.com/s/article/Article-22145
Elite processing: https://help.marriott.com/s/article/Article-34363
If you achieved a higher Elite status during 2022, your 2022 Eligible Status Year for the new, higher tier was applied at the time of achievement.
If you did not meet the published criteria to renew your current status in 2022, your 2022 Eligible Status Year for your current status will be added in January 2023, and your Eligible Status Year for your new status will be added in March 2023 when your Elite status is updated.
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As part of our regular process, Members receive their qualifying year towards Lifetime Elite status in one of two ways:
If you maintain the same Elite level for 2022, your 2022 year of Elite status will be applied to your Account in January 2023. If you achieve a higher Elite level during 2022, your 2022 year of tenure for the new, higher level will be applied at the time of achievement.
Examples:
Lifetime Status Details: https://help.marriott.com/s/article/Article-22145
Elite processing: https://help.marriott.com/s/article/Article-34363
How will my Eligible Status Years for 2022 be applied to my Account and when?
If you maintained the same Elite status in 2022 that you started with in 2022 , your 2022 Eligible Status Year for your current status will be applied to your Account in January 2023.If you achieved a higher Elite status during 2022, your 2022 Eligible Status Year for the new, higher tier was applied at the time of achievement.
If you did not meet the published criteria to renew your current status in 2022, your 2022 Eligible Status Year for your current status will be added in January 2023, and your Eligible Status Year for your new status will be added in March 2023 when your Elite status is updated.
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When will my 2021 qualifying year of Elite status be applied to my Account so I can track my path to Lifetime Elite Status?
As part of our regular process, Members receive their qualifying year towards Lifetime Elite status in one of two ways:
- If you maintain the same Elite level that you started the year with, your Qualifying Year of Elite status will be applied to your Account in January of the following year. Please Note: In November 2021, when we extended the Elite status that Members earned in 2019 or 2020, Members received their 2021 Qualifying Year of Elite status.
- If you achieve a higher Elite level during the year than the previous year, your Qualifying Year for the new, higher level will be applied at the time of achievement. Please Note: If you achieved a higher Elite level during 2021, your 2021 qualifying year of Elite status, was applied at the time of achievement.
If you maintain the same Elite level for 2022, your 2022 year of Elite status will be applied to your Account in January 2023. If you achieve a higher Elite level during 2022, your 2022 year of tenure for the new, higher level will be applied at the time of achievement.
Examples:
- A Member achieved Gold Elite in 2019 and enjoyed the status in 2020. They received their 2020 year of Gold Elite status in July 2020 when we extended their status. Due to status extensions, the Member received their 2021 year of tenure in November 2021 when they their status was extended to February 2023.
- A Member achieved Platinum Elite in 2020 and enjoyed the status in 2021. They received their 2021 year of Platinum status in November 2021 when they their status was extended to February 2023.
- A Gold Elite Member achieved Platinum Elite in April 2021; the Platinum year of Elite status for 2021 was applied upon achievement (in April 2021).
Marriott Lifetime Elite Status General Discussion [Master Thread]
May 4, 2022, 9:03 pm
#2746
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Saipan, MP 96950 USA (Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands = the CNMI)
Programs: UA Silver, Hilton Silver. Life: UA .57 MM, United & Admirals Clubs (spousal), Marriott Platinum
Posts: 15,051
Does anyone seriously see value in this lifetime platinum status? . . .
Thank god marriott shut down lifetime titanium. Wouldn't want people to think about staying in a marriott beyond 10 years. I know, now is when all those that have lifetime titanium tell me how its not a big a deal and I should not concern myself with it.
Thank god marriott shut down lifetime titanium. Wouldn't want people to think about staying in a marriott beyond 10 years. I know, now is when all those that have lifetime titanium tell me how its not a big a deal and I should not concern myself with it.
This total disregard for customer loyalty was the archetypal incident of being brutally Bonv°yed! Unless Marriott reopens LTE, presumably with more stringent requirements, to "get Bonv°yed" will always have a pejorative, unspeakable connotation.
As for the value of Marriott Bonv°y lifetime Platinum Elite (LPE) status, to me it lies not in upgrades but in breakfasts and 4:00 p.m. checkouts. I already have my ten years, and will exceed 600 nights early next year.
In fact, I value LPE so much that since last year, I have shifted most of our family stays and spend to my wife's accounts, so she can become LPE, too. She already has three years.
Beaucoup Bonv°y!
May 4, 2022, 10:19 pm
#2747
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: Palm Beach/ New England
Programs: AA EXP 3MM, DL GM, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 4,382
The value in Bonvoy Platinum (or Titanium, or the lifetime version of either) is the free breakfast and lounge access at full-service city properties. Many Marriotts just do not do upgrades (some notable exceptions). You need to use Suite Upgrades for most properties. This is not new. Marriott has never, in my 30+ years loyalty, upgraded members with any consistency based on elite status. You are buying a consistent brand, with services based on the property type. The status is only icing on the cake.
The current travel profile of heavy resort usage and light business usage means that many travelers with status are at properties where status is somewhat meaningless. Overseas may be better. But the disconnect between people going to resort destinations and expecting extravagant Bonvoy benefits -- this is not going to improve.
The current travel profile of heavy resort usage and light business usage means that many travelers with status are at properties where status is somewhat meaningless. Overseas may be better. But the disconnect between people going to resort destinations and expecting extravagant Bonvoy benefits -- this is not going to improve.
May 4, 2022, 10:42 pm
#2748
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: SFO
Posts: 4,914
Heresy! The "original sin" of Marriott in establishing their new program to replace Marriott Rewards was the phasing out of Lifetime Titanium Elite (LTE) on a mere six months notice, after people like me had been striving toward it for a decade. Talk about "detrimental reliance"!
This total disregard for customer loyalty was the archetypal incident of being brutally Bonv°yed! Unless Marriott reopens LTE, presumably with more stringent requirements, to "get Bonv°yed" will always have a pejorative, unspeakable connotation.
As for the value of Marriott Bonv°y lifetime Platinum Elite (LPE) status, to me it lies not in upgrades but in breakfasts and 4:00 p.m. checkouts. I already have my ten years, and will exceed 600 nights early next year.
In fact, I value LPE so much that since last year, I have shifted most of our family stays and spend to my wife's accounts, so she can become LPE, too. She already has three years.
Beaucoup Bonv°y!
This total disregard for customer loyalty was the archetypal incident of being brutally Bonv°yed! Unless Marriott reopens LTE, presumably with more stringent requirements, to "get Bonv°yed" will always have a pejorative, unspeakable connotation.
As for the value of Marriott Bonv°y lifetime Platinum Elite (LPE) status, to me it lies not in upgrades but in breakfasts and 4:00 p.m. checkouts. I already have my ten years, and will exceed 600 nights early next year.
In fact, I value LPE so much that since last year, I have shifted most of our family stays and spend to my wife's accounts, so she can become LPE, too. She already has three years.
Beaucoup Bonv°y!
I guess the argument would be if the program didn’t merge, one will still be able to attain legacy Platinum under the old program. The counter argument is that platinum (by name and most benefits) is still the highest level you can attain in the legacy and new program, and easier to attain in the new program. I’m sure lots are happy about the lowered threshold in order to jump ship right after
May 5, 2022, 12:35 am
#2749
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Saipan, MP 96950 USA (Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands = the CNMI)
Programs: UA Silver, Hilton Silver. Life: UA .57 MM, United & Admirals Clubs (spousal), Marriott Platinum
Posts: 15,051
The former Platinum was simply renamed Titanium. These are the old and new names, with annual Elite Qualifying Night (EQN) requirements.
Old . . . . . . . . . . . New
Silver . . . . . . . . . Silver (10)
.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gold (25)
Gold . . . . . . . . . . Platinum (50)
Platinum . . . . . . Titanium (75)
The lifetime EQN requirements actually increased, not decreased, though the lifetime spend requirements (which had been tougher for me as someone in public service) were eliminated.
Silver (250) . . . . Silver (250)
.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gold (400)
Gold (500) . . . . . Platinum (600)
Platinum (750) . Titanium (N/A)
So, yes, no matter how one tries to justify it, some of us did get Bonv°yed.
Old . . . . . . . . . . . New
Silver . . . . . . . . . Silver (10)
.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gold (25)
Gold . . . . . . . . . . Platinum (50)
Platinum . . . . . . Titanium (75)
The lifetime EQN requirements actually increased, not decreased, though the lifetime spend requirements (which had been tougher for me as someone in public service) were eliminated.
Silver (250) . . . . Silver (250)
.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gold (400)
Gold (500) . . . . . Platinum (600)
Platinum (750) . Titanium (N/A)
So, yes, no matter how one tries to justify it, some of us did get Bonv°yed.
May 5, 2022, 1:00 am
#2750
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: SFO
Posts: 4,914
The former Platinum was simply renamed Titanium. These are the old and new names, with annual Elite Qualifying Night (EQN) requirements.
Old . . . . . . . . . . . New
Silver . . . . . . . . . Silver (10)
.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gold (25)
Gold . . . . . . . . . . Platinum (50)
Platinum . . . . . . Titanium (75)
The lifetime EQN requirements actually increased, not decreased, though the lifetime spend requirements (which had been tougher for me as someone in public service) were eliminated.
Silver (250) . . . . Silver (250)
.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gold (400)
Gold (500) . . . . . Platinum (600)
Platinum (750) . Titanium (N/A)
So, yes, no matter how one tries to justify it, some of us did get Bonv°yed.
Old . . . . . . . . . . . New
Silver . . . . . . . . . Silver (10)
.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gold (25)
Gold . . . . . . . . . . Platinum (50)
Platinum . . . . . . Titanium (75)
The lifetime EQN requirements actually increased, not decreased, though the lifetime spend requirements (which had been tougher for me as someone in public service) were eliminated.
Silver (250) . . . . Silver (250)
.. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Gold (400)
Gold (500) . . . . . Platinum (600)
Platinum (750) . Titanium (N/A)
So, yes, no matter how one tries to justify it, some of us did get Bonv°yed.
if you were under the old program, your wife would still be waiting a few years for her to start her quest to lifetime platinum because you would still be trying to attain legacy lifetime platinum
May 5, 2022, 3:00 am
#2751
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Saipan, MP 96950 USA (Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands = the CNMI)
Programs: UA Silver, Hilton Silver. Life: UA .57 MM, United & Admirals Clubs (spousal), Marriott Platinum
Posts: 15,051
You are right, I would still be about 160 nights and $400K short. But I wouldn't be complaining.
And if Marriott wants to raise the EQN for lifetime Titanium (LTT) to 1000 nights (comparable to Hilton Honors Diamond), I wouldn't complain about that either.
As it is, my wife and I are simply making the best out of the current circumstances.
We are both life members of the Admirals Club and the United Club, so "de facto" lifetime Premier Silver through LTT would be mighty fine.
And if Marriott wants to raise the EQN for lifetime Titanium (LTT) to 1000 nights (comparable to Hilton Honors Diamond), I wouldn't complain about that either.
As it is, my wife and I are simply making the best out of the current circumstances.
We are both life members of the Admirals Club and the United Club, so "de facto" lifetime Premier Silver through LTT would be mighty fine.
May 5, 2022, 9:16 am
#2752
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: NYC
Programs: DL Platinum, AA Plat Pro, Bonvoy Lifetime Platinum, JetBlue Mosaic 3, Amtrak Select
Posts: 966
The value in Bonvoy Platinum (or Titanium, or the lifetime version of either) is the free breakfast and lounge access at full-service city properties. Many Marriotts just do not do upgrades (some notable exceptions). You need to use Suite Upgrades for most properties. This is not new. Marriott has never, in my 30+ years loyalty, upgraded members with any consistency based on elite status. You are buying a consistent brand, with services based on the property type. The status is only icing on the cake.
The current travel profile of heavy resort usage and light business usage means that many travelers with status are at properties where status is somewhat meaningless. Overseas may be better. But the disconnect between people going to resort destinations and expecting extravagant Bonvoy benefits -- this is not going to improve.
The current travel profile of heavy resort usage and light business usage means that many travelers with status are at properties where status is somewhat meaningless. Overseas may be better. But the disconnect between people going to resort destinations and expecting extravagant Bonvoy benefits -- this is not going to improve.
But I'll be missing Hyatt and complaining the whole time. Confirmed suite upgrades are amazing and even the comp ones have been great lately
We did a small mattress run during the double EQN promotion and my wife had breakfast when I was gone and checked out and was already complaining about the marriott's stingy cash credit vs just getting a full breakfast w/o issue at any Hyatt we've been at... but we both agree it makes sense to just secure the "free-ish" breakfast benefit for life and then be free agents and just book a Hyatt because like it, not because we are chasing status.
May 5, 2022, 4:42 pm
#2753
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: SFO
Posts: 4,914
You are right, I would still be about 160 nights and $400K short. But I wouldn't be complaining.
And if Marriott wants to raise the EQN for lifetime Titanium (LTT) to 1000 nights (comparable to Hilton Honors Diamond), I wouldn't complain about that either.
As it is, my wife and I are simply making the best out of the current circumstances.
We are both life members of the Admirals Club and the United Club, so "de facto" lifetime Premier Silver through LTT would be mighty fine.
And if Marriott wants to raise the EQN for lifetime Titanium (LTT) to 1000 nights (comparable to Hilton Honors Diamond), I wouldn't complain about that either.
As it is, my wife and I are simply making the best out of the current circumstances.
We are both life members of the Admirals Club and the United Club, so "de facto" lifetime Premier Silver through LTT would be mighty fine.
. Would you feel otherwise if the new LTT criteria is $400k? the fact is regardless on how it got mapped, you are still getting lifetime platinum. Count the shift per your comparison as one of the devaluations.
if Marriott was smart (term used loosely here)(and probably in the works as an enhancement), is to make platinum like Hilton gold. Keep breakfast for platinums since that’s what most cherish, and lounge for titaniums and ambassadors. This way, it’ll still keep the lifetime platinum members engaged and
continue to stay to achieve titanium+ (For lounge benefits) and those that are content with (whatever is left of the) platinum breakfast benefits. For sure the most happy of customers of Marriott will be the properties not having to foot the lounge costs, though some property may just let breakfast eligible platinum use the lounge breakfast because it’s cheaper. It’s coming folks.
May 5, 2022, 5:09 pm
#2754
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Saipan, MP 96950 USA (Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands = the CNMI)
Programs: UA Silver, Hilton Silver. Life: UA .57 MM, United & Admirals Clubs (spousal), Marriott Platinum
Posts: 15,051
While one earns 10 points per dollar spent at most Marriotts (5 at Residence Inns, etc.), one only earns one point per dollar of general spend on the credit card.
I am mostly a credit-card guest,
so my goal was much closer to $400K than $40K, but your point in that regard is well-taken. As for potential new goals, I don't strive for impossibility.
May 6, 2022, 12:34 am
#2756
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Saipan, MP 96950 USA (Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands = the CNMI)
Programs: UA Silver, Hilton Silver. Life: UA .57 MM, United & Admirals Clubs (spousal), Marriott Platinum
Posts: 15,051
Touché! 
But why would that stop Marriott Bonv°y?
But why would that stop Marriott Bonv°y?
May 6, 2022, 5:55 am
#2757
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: WAW
Programs: A3(*G), Marriott Platinum, Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond Ambassador
Posts: 2,534
The value in Bonvoy Platinum (or Titanium, or the lifetime version of either) is the free breakfast and lounge access at full-service city properties. Many Marriotts just do not do upgrades (some notable exceptions). You need to use Suite Upgrades for most properties. This is not new. Marriott has never, in my 30+ years loyalty, upgraded members with any consistency based on elite status. You are buying a consistent brand, with services based on the property type. The status is only icing on the cake.
Recently I did 5 nights in CY Gdynia (Poland) and didn't get a suite but they have literally one suite in the entire property, plus I was travelling solo so the Sea View upgrade was all I needed. A colleague is Platinum and he has similar luck with upgrades. I haven't been to Asia since 2018 so it's hard for me to comment about that, but in Europe I do just fine.
May 13, 2022, 4:47 am
#2758
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Miami, FL
Programs: AA GLD, MR GLD, SPG GLD
Posts: 58
Hi All,
do these stats look right based on past history?Nights: 610
Years as Silver, Gold or Platinum: 25
Years as Gold or Platinum: 19
Years as Platinum: 5
Id thought there would be more years as Plat given the gap between Gold and Plat. I reached out to Lurker and Christine for help, but wanted to get some feedback based on your experiences.
thanks in advance!!
do these stats look right based on past history?Nights: 610
Years as Silver, Gold or Platinum: 25
Years as Gold or Platinum: 19
Years as Platinum: 5
Id thought there would be more years as Plat given the gap between Gold and Plat. I reached out to Lurker and Christine for help, but wanted to get some feedback based on your experiences.
thanks in advance!!
May 13, 2022, 5:09 am
#2759
Join Date: May 2003
Location: TLL
Programs: OZ Diamond, BA Gold, Bonvoy Ambassador, HH Gold
Posts: 4,412
Hi All,
do these stats look right based on past history?Nights: 610
Years as Silver, Gold or Platinum: 25
Years as Gold or Platinum: 19
Years as Platinum: 5
Id thought there would be more years as Plat given the gap between Gold and Plat. I reached out to Lurker and Christine for help, but wanted to get some feedback based on your experiences.
thanks in advance!!
do these stats look right based on past history?Nights: 610
Years as Silver, Gold or Platinum: 25
Years as Gold or Platinum: 19
Years as Platinum: 5
Id thought there would be more years as Plat given the gap between Gold and Plat. I reached out to Lurker and Christine for help, but wanted to get some feedback based on your experiences.
thanks in advance!!
Lets take the five years at Platinum - 250 nights and remove it from the 610 total - 610 - 250 leaves us with 360 nights.
Then take the 19 years as Gold or Platinum - subtract the 5 years as platinum - 14 years
360 divided by 14 is 25.7 - just enough to get you Gold for those 14 years.
Makes sense to me.
May 13, 2022, 5:15 am
#2760
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Saipan, MP 96950 USA (Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands = the CNMI)
Programs: UA Silver, Hilton Silver. Life: UA .57 MM, United & Admirals Clubs (spousal), Marriott Platinum
Posts: 15,051
