May 2, 2022, 8:48 pm
Last edit by: gudugan
How to View Lifetime Status: https://help.marriott.com/s/article/Article-22489
Lifetime Status Details: https://help.marriott.com/s/article/Article-22145
Elite processing: https://help.marriott.com/s/article/Article-34363
If you achieved a higher Elite status during 2022, your 2022 Eligible Status Year for the new, higher tier was applied at the time of achievement.
If you did not meet the published criteria to renew your current status in 2022, your 2022 Eligible Status Year for your current status will be added in January 2023, and your Eligible Status Year for your new status will be added in March 2023 when your Elite status is updated.
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As part of our regular process, Members receive their qualifying year towards Lifetime Elite status in one of two ways:
If you maintain the same Elite level for 2022, your 2022 year of Elite status will be applied to your Account in January 2023. If you achieve a higher Elite level during 2022, your 2022 year of tenure for the new, higher level will be applied at the time of achievement.
Examples:
Lifetime Status Details: https://help.marriott.com/s/article/Article-22145
Elite processing: https://help.marriott.com/s/article/Article-34363
How will my Eligible Status Years for 2022 be applied to my Account and when?
If you maintained the same Elite status in 2022 that you started with in 2022 , your 2022 Eligible Status Year for your current status will be applied to your Account in January 2023.If you achieved a higher Elite status during 2022, your 2022 Eligible Status Year for the new, higher tier was applied at the time of achievement.
If you did not meet the published criteria to renew your current status in 2022, your 2022 Eligible Status Year for your current status will be added in January 2023, and your Eligible Status Year for your new status will be added in March 2023 when your Elite status is updated.
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When will my 2021 qualifying year of Elite status be applied to my Account so I can track my path to Lifetime Elite Status?
As part of our regular process, Members receive their qualifying year towards Lifetime Elite status in one of two ways:
- If you maintain the same Elite level that you started the year with, your Qualifying Year of Elite status will be applied to your Account in January of the following year. Please Note: In November 2021, when we extended the Elite status that Members earned in 2019 or 2020, Members received their 2021 Qualifying Year of Elite status.
- If you achieve a higher Elite level during the year than the previous year, your Qualifying Year for the new, higher level will be applied at the time of achievement. Please Note: If you achieved a higher Elite level during 2021, your 2021 qualifying year of Elite status, was applied at the time of achievement.
If you maintain the same Elite level for 2022, your 2022 year of Elite status will be applied to your Account in January 2023. If you achieve a higher Elite level during 2022, your 2022 year of tenure for the new, higher level will be applied at the time of achievement.
Examples:
- A Member achieved Gold Elite in 2019 and enjoyed the status in 2020. They received their 2020 year of Gold Elite status in July 2020 when we extended their status. Due to status extensions, the Member received their 2021 year of tenure in November 2021 when they their status was extended to February 2023.
- A Member achieved Platinum Elite in 2020 and enjoyed the status in 2021. They received their 2021 year of Platinum status in November 2021 when they their status was extended to February 2023.
- A Gold Elite Member achieved Platinum Elite in April 2021; the Platinum year of Elite status for 2021 was applied upon achievement (in April 2021).
Marriott Lifetime Elite Status General Discussion [Master Thread]
Mar 2, 2021, 12:56 am
#1771
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: SFO
Posts: 4,916
wait... you were incorrect in claiming Marriott didn’t calculate correctly and you are blaming Marriott? I bet more than a few others (probably a lot of others) claiming not getting credit in fact did get credit. Might as well claim ignorance because Marriott can’t get anything right anyways. I can buy that.
Mar 2, 2021, 12:58 am
#1772
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Seat 2A
Programs: AA EXP LT GLD 1MM, BA GLD, NH/UA*G, Hyatt Dia, Marr Tit LT PLT, IHG Spire,HH Dia, MGM NOIR,Hertz PC
Posts: 10,571
Marriott Platinum (SPG Platinum) was never and still isn't as easy to obtain. It takes considerably more investment and effort to get Bonvoy Platinum than Hilton Gold and I doubt that Marriott would take away the lounge benefit of a status that requires customers to actually spend 50 nights at their hotels.
If the numbers swell too much I'd say the road they'll take is to turn the faucet off the credit card nights again. Either by only allowing one card to accumulate elite nights or reducing the number of nights to something like 5 similar to what Hyatt does.
Mar 2, 2021, 6:09 am
#1773
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: YXU / YUL
Programs: AA LT Gold, Aeroplan, Marriott Titanium (LT Platinum), HH Diamond
Posts: 407
That's just the thing though - people like me have demonstrated a willingness to go out of the way to divert stays (and $$$) to SPG then to Marriott properties. Operationally then, you'd think the corporation would be willing to do something like spending absolutely nothing to send an automated email or two to keep people like me warm to the brand.
Mar 2, 2021, 6:46 am
#1774
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Seat 1L these days :)
Programs: AF Platinum/AY LUMO/SK EBG/baEC S/HYATT Globalist/MR LTP/A3 *G/HH Dia/IHG plat
Posts: 7,962
LTG came along time ago no recognition, but didnt suprise me. Soon enough it will change to LTP, perhaps they will email me then
Mar 2, 2021, 8:04 pm
#1775
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 29
Is your “years as ... elite or higher” at the top of the app lifetime ... screen still incorrect vs. the bottom of that screen where you see a detailed breakdown of silver, gold, and plat?
that should be the easiest one to fix. It used to be correct till the app update...?
that should be the easiest one to fix. It used to be correct till the app update...?
Mar 2, 2021, 9:04 pm
#1776
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Wanting First. Buying First.
Programs: Lifetime Executive Diamond Platinum VIP with Braniff, Eastern, Midway, National & Pan Am
Posts: 17,492
Nobody can give you an answer to this apart from wild speculation which will not help your concern. Maybe you could articulate further what your concern or situation is to get a more tailored response.
If you look at it competitively then the Platinum benefits we enjoy must be competitive in the market for hotel elite programmes so as long as 50 nights a year is generally the threshold in equivalent programmes for breakfast or lounge access or whatever else then the benefit should not be under threat as they are clearly benefits that elites value and are key motivators to drive to Platinum or equivalent 50-night elite status.
If you look at it competitively then the Platinum benefits we enjoy must be competitive in the market for hotel elite programmes so as long as 50 nights a year is generally the threshold in equivalent programmes for breakfast or lounge access or whatever else then the benefit should not be under threat as they are clearly benefits that elites value and are key motivators to drive to Platinum or equivalent 50-night elite status.
Bonvoy is far more confusing than Starfraud Preferred Guest ever was.
So, if I were to speculate, Bonvoy will continue to offer free breakfast as a listed benefit but continue to give its customers (hotel developers) ample leeway to do whatever the heck they want without facing repercussions. Why rock the boat by changing the program T&Cs when you've already shown your willingness to give individual hotels carte blanche to ignore what they want to ignore?
Bonvoy sucks. Worse than Starfraud did.
Mar 2, 2021, 10:32 pm
#1777
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Bangkok
Programs: Marriott Bonvoy Titanium, BAEC Silver, TK Miles & Smiles Elite
Posts: 2,210
I'm Marriott Platinum and I've barely seen a free breakfast or been inside a lounge in almost a year. There are so many caveats, rules, and carve-outs to the breakfast benefit that it is an utter joke. Marriott's complex hierarchy of brands is just ridiculous and Marriott made matters worse by allowing every one of its properties to cheapen out and deny elite benefits under the guise of the pandemic.
Bonvoy is far more confusing than Starfraud Preferred Guest ever was.
So, if I were to speculate, Bonvoy will continue to offer free breakfast as a listed benefit but continue to give its customers (hotel developers) ample leeway to do whatever the heck they want without facing repercussions. Why rock the boat by changing the program T&Cs when you've already shown your willingness to give individual hotels carte blanche to ignore what they want to ignore?
Bonvoy sucks. Worse than Starfraud did.
Bonvoy is far more confusing than Starfraud Preferred Guest ever was.
So, if I were to speculate, Bonvoy will continue to offer free breakfast as a listed benefit but continue to give its customers (hotel developers) ample leeway to do whatever the heck they want without facing repercussions. Why rock the boat by changing the program T&Cs when you've already shown your willingness to give individual hotels carte blanche to ignore what they want to ignore?
Bonvoy sucks. Worse than Starfraud did.
I, along with countless other Bonvoy members in this forum and around the world, recognise none of the issues you list with our Bonvoy memberships regarding breakfast or lounge access and I suspect you are articulating a personal experience with hotels in one country, the US, whereas we have continued to enjoy the published benefits, and more, throughout 2020 consistently at brands ranging from Courtyards and Four Points to JW and St. Regis with most brands in between.
Then again, your Platinum status has been basically gifted to you in the US for two years with up to 30 credit card nights and 25 bonus nights while the rest of us continue to earn our status by, you know, paying for nights so we should get some valuable benefits from our Bonvoy membership.
But, more seriously, you raise two issues that are not really connected. The first is the long-term published benefits of Platinum status however they are implemented on the ground which I do not believe are at risk but that's enough of my crystal ball gazing on that one. And the second is the continued poor implementation of those benefits in the US specifically using the pandemic as an excuse which may be a short term or a medium term problem for you but isn't an indication of intent with the programme's global benefits.
Under your circumstances, I'd simply stay at the hotel that I want to stay at and give them my money irrespective of brand affiliation if you're not getting any additional value from Bonvoy at the moment. If everyone in the US did that then they'd soon get the message coming through loud and clear in the numbers.
Mar 2, 2021, 11:22 pm
#1778
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Saipan, MP 96950 USA (Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands = the CNMI)
Programs: UA Silver, Hilton Silver. Life: UA .57 MM, United & Admirals Clubs (spousal), Marriott Platinum
Posts: 15,055
I, along with countless other Bonvoy members in this forum and around the world, recognise none of the issues you list with our Bonvoy memberships regarding breakfast or lounge access and I suspect you are articulating a personal experience with hotels in one country, the US, whereas we have continued to enjoy the published benefits, and more, throughout 2020 consistently at brands ranging from Courtyards and Four Points to JW and St. Regis with most brands in between.
Then again, your Platinum status has been basically gifted to you in the US for two years with up to 30 credit card nights and 25 bonus nights while the rest of us continue to earn our status by, you know, paying for nights so we should get some valuable benefits from our Bonvoy membership.
Then again, your Platinum status has been basically gifted to you in the US for two years with up to 30 credit card nights and 25 bonus nights while the rest of us continue to earn our status by, you know, paying for nights so we should get some valuable benefits from our Bonvoy membership.
Beaucoup Bonv°y! 🌴 😎 🇬🇺 🇲🇵 💚
Under your circumstances, I'd simply stay at the hotel that I want to stay at and give them my money irrespective of brand affiliation if you're not getting any additional value from Bonvoy at the moment. If everyone in the US did that then they'd soon get the message coming through loud and clear in the numbers.
Mar 3, 2021, 8:15 am
#1779
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Wanting First. Buying First.
Programs: Lifetime Executive Diamond Platinum VIP with Braniff, Eastern, Midway, National & Pan Am
Posts: 17,492
Under your circumstances, I'd simply stay at the hotel that I want to stay at and give them my money irrespective of brand affiliation if you're not getting any additional value from Bonvoy at the moment. If everyone in the US did that then they'd soon get the message coming through loud and clear in the numbers.
While I hate Bonvoy as a program, I love certain hotels that participate in that program. And I hate other Bonvoy hotels. I almost always avoid hotels in the latter category (I can think of one exception, PHF, where the lousy full-service Marriott is, sadly, the least bad option in that particular market).
And yes, as a legacy Starfraud customer I do feel that the "overpromise, underdeliver" marketing fluff was a big problem going back to SPG days. The problem is that Bonvoy has widened the already generous (from a hotel owner/operator's perspective) loopholes that existed in SPG and added in many new layers of complexity to the program and its T&Cs.
When I have to consult a quick reference handbook to understand what differing benefits I get at each of 24 (?) different brands and even that QRH doesn't tell the whole story or allow me to manage my expectations accordingly, the program has a serious problem.
But long story short, I'm already doing exactly what you suggest. I will not pick a crap hotel just because I can earn a few points or elite qualification nights. I will stay at the best hotel in a certain market or I will pick the cheapest acceptable hotel in that market, depending on my mood. Maybe I will even game a promotion IF the value is sufficient... But I will not blindly chase points or status.
Couldn't happen to a nicer guy!
Last edited by Herb687; Mar 3, 2021 at 8:18 am Reason: multi-quote
Mar 3, 2021, 8:25 am
#1780
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: STL, MO-US and A , SWA A-List, Marriott LTTE, Hilton Gold, Hertz PC
Posts: 1,883
Mar 3, 2021, 8:50 am
#1783
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: SFO
Posts: 4,916
Mar 3, 2021, 9:07 am
#1784
Join Date: Mar 2021
Posts: 12
Mar 3, 2021, 9:13 am
#1785
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Seat 1L these days :)
Programs: AF Platinum/AY LUMO/SK EBG/baEC S/HYATT Globalist/MR LTP/A3 *G/HH Dia/IHG plat
Posts: 7,962
