Sep 4, 2018, 3:50 pm
Last edit by: Counsellor
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Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2018)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
When converting your legacy certificate to a new certificate your prior certificate is cancelled and your new certificate will (in most cases) have an expiration date that is 12 months from the date of issuance (today).
The codes for the New Category partial packages are:
5-night packages
NCx = new certificate category
QPxx = post-merger converted partial package
OCx = old certificate category
QLxx = post-merger converted partial package (only QL known so far is QL87 for NC7)
xx0T = initial package;
Pxx0 = partial package;
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MARRIOT UK: +44 20 7012 7312
For best practices on converting OC to NC, I’ve copied post # 1181 here. Thank you jameswes!
(Also, never use the word UPGRADE. You must say you want to CONVERT your certs.)
IMPORTANT! Possible Points Advance Implications of March 5 category changes: There’s a (potential) issue with the category changes and Points Advance reservations. Marriott included the following information when they emailed some of us about the upcoming changes: “Points Advance — Members who wish to book a points advance redemption under the current Marriott Rewards and SPG award chart are encouraged to order redemption certificates before March 5 to lock in the rate. On March 5, redemption bookings are subject to the new unified program award chart.” We’ve reached out to Marriott to confirm the practical implications of this verbiage, as it sounds like Points Advance reservations will revert to the new pricing if they don’t have certificates attached prior to March 5. To be on the safe side, if your hotel is increasing in category be sure your TP certificate is attached to the reservation before March 5.
Concerning use of TP for peak or off-peak, see post 2179:
Legacy to New Travel Package Conversion (effective August 2018)
A Marriott supervisor can currently convert your legacy travel package into the new category mapping. If you hold a Category 6, 8, or Tier 1-3 legacy certificate, it's ideal to downgrade your certificate before converting so that points don't potentially get lost in the process.
When converting your legacy certificate to a new certificate your prior certificate is cancelled and your new certificate will (in most cases) have an expiration date that is 12 months from the date of issuance (today).
The codes for the New Category partial packages are:
5-night packages
- OC5=530T/P530 is now NC4 QP53
- OC6=570T/P570 is now NC4 QP53
- OC7=610T/P610 is now NC5 QP61 (refund value: 45K)
- OC8=650T/P650 is now NC5 QP?? (Refund value: 75k)
- OC9=690T/P690 is now NC6 QP69
- NC4 QP83 = OC5 830T/P830 (refund value: 45K)
- NC4 QP87 = OC6 870T/P870 (refund value: 75K)
- NC5 QP91 = OC7 910T/P910 (refund value: 105K)
- NC5 QP95 = OC8 950T/P950 (refund value: 135K)
- NC6 QP99 = OC9 990T/P990 (refund value: 165K)
- NC6 QP99 = OC Tier 1-3 L830 (refund value: 195K)
- NC7 QL87 = OC Tier 4-5 L870 (refund value: 315K)
- NC5 QP88 = OC7 P880 (refund value: 135K)
- NC5 QP92 = OC8 P920 (refund value: 165K)
NCx = new certificate category
QPxx = post-merger converted partial package
OCx = old certificate category
QLxx = post-merger converted partial package (only QL known so far is QL87 for NC7)
xx0T = initial package;
Pxx0 = partial package;
************************************************** *******
MARRIOT UK: +44 20 7012 7312
For best practices on converting OC to NC, I’ve copied post # 1181 here. Thank you jameswes!
(Also, never use the word UPGRADE. You must say you want to CONVERT your certs.)
New data point for the new year.
I've read/followed the majority of this thread and now that I have a plan for how to use the travel certificates I made it happen
Last July, I purchased two OC1-5 travel packages. I have an upcoming trip that I wanted to use the certificates to book two rooms at an NC5 hotel.
1) Verified that I had an extra 120,000 MR points in my account (2x60,000 to upgrade from NC4 to NC5)
2) Call the UK Marriott # in the wiki (+44 20 7012 7312). In total, the call took about 25 minutes.
3) Explain that I have a booking I wanted to make, and I wanted to Cancel my two 830T certificates and convert them to two QP91 certificates. I did need to be clear with the rep that I was going to be using additional points from my account to upgrade the certificate.
Canceling two 830T (OC1-5) added 90,000 points (2x45000) to my account
Ordering two QP91 (NC5) subtracted 210,000 points (2x105K) from my account
4) The rep said that their "specialist" wasn't in the office, but she would leave detailed notes and have him do it the next day
5) True to form, the next day (today), I got an emails saying that my old certificates were canceled and new certificates were ordered.
Email clearly states that 830T certs were canceled
Second email clearly states that QP91 certs were ordered and 210K points were redeemed
Email (and account) state that the expiration is one year from today
As typical, App is up-to-date, website doesn't show the updated information yet.
I've read/followed the majority of this thread and now that I have a plan for how to use the travel certificates I made it happen
Last July, I purchased two OC1-5 travel packages. I have an upcoming trip that I wanted to use the certificates to book two rooms at an NC5 hotel.
1) Verified that I had an extra 120,000 MR points in my account (2x60,000 to upgrade from NC4 to NC5)
2) Call the UK Marriott # in the wiki (+44 20 7012 7312). In total, the call took about 25 minutes.
3) Explain that I have a booking I wanted to make, and I wanted to Cancel my two 830T certificates and convert them to two QP91 certificates. I did need to be clear with the rep that I was going to be using additional points from my account to upgrade the certificate.
Canceling two 830T (OC1-5) added 90,000 points (2x45000) to my account
Ordering two QP91 (NC5) subtracted 210,000 points (2x105K) from my account
4) The rep said that their "specialist" wasn't in the office, but she would leave detailed notes and have him do it the next day
5) True to form, the next day (today), I got an emails saying that my old certificates were canceled and new certificates were ordered.
Email clearly states that 830T certs were canceled
Second email clearly states that QP91 certs were ordered and 210K points were redeemed
Email (and account) state that the expiration is one year from today
As typical, App is up-to-date, website doesn't show the updated information yet.
Concerning use of TP for peak or off-peak, see post 2179:
The new award redemption chart will not impact Travel Packages. After these changes go into effect, you'll be able to book a hotel within the category assigned to your Travel Package, regardless of whether the dates at the hotel are in off-peak, standard or peak rates.
Travel Package General Discussion Thread
Nov 29, 2018, 1:37 pm
#841
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: S. Calif.
Posts: 39
Its in the Wiki
But if 7 nights:
But if 7 nights:
- NC5 QP95 = OC8 950T/P950 (refund value: 135K)
Nov 29, 2018, 2:43 pm
#843
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 343
If they really do not have them, and I find that hard to believe at this point, hopefully they just exchange the old cert for enough points to make an NC7 7 night reservation. I can only recall two people in this thread who had OC Tier 4-5 certs that would have converted to NC7 and neither of them reported getting converted. One cashed in his cert for a refund points value. The other I have not heard a resolution to.
Nov 29, 2018, 3:39 pm
#844
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 205
Is it possible to book W hotels yet?
Nov 29, 2018, 4:32 pm
#846
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,763
There is no lack of DPs or approaches on how to handle an upgrade request successfully from previous thread and the current one.
Upgrade is much harder now but presumably still possible with an OC to NC conversion.
Nov 29, 2018, 6:56 pm
#847
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 48
I did it only a couple of days ago, OC6+30k to NC5. The first agent knew where I was going before I even got to saying the new category and said "you're not allowed to upgrade, you can't do it!". The next agent was more than happy to be stepped through the script posted previously in this thread. Luck of the draw. Just keep HUACA.
Nov 29, 2018, 11:54 pm
#848
Join Date: Feb 2015
Programs: Marriott: Platinum/LT Silver, AS: MVP
Posts: 67
Nov 30, 2018, 1:43 pm
#849
Join Date: Aug 2015
Programs: Virtuoso Luxury Travel Agent; Bonvoy Titanium Elite; Hilton Diamond
Posts: 665
Nov 30, 2018, 2:08 pm
#850
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NJ
Posts: 78
DP : Got OC6 upgraded to NC5 (paid 30k points), called the regular Marriott line.
Dec 3, 2018, 11:48 am
#852
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 34
7 Night Voucher Question
Hi All,
Please be gentle, if this is posted in the wrong place feel free to move or let me know where to post. The shear amount of information here is overwhelming and difficult to navigate.
My 7 night Marriott Voucher expires in March of 2019. Am I able to book a reservation after that date and apply for voucher to it? Or, does the voucher stay need to be completed before March 2019?
Thanks much.
Please be gentle, if this is posted in the wrong place feel free to move or let me know where to post. The shear amount of information here is overwhelming and difficult to navigate.
My 7 night Marriott Voucher expires in March of 2019. Am I able to book a reservation after that date and apply for voucher to it? Or, does the voucher stay need to be completed before March 2019?
Thanks much.
Dec 3, 2018, 12:13 pm
#853
Moderator, Marriott Bonvoy & FlyerTalk Evangelist
Original Poster
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: McKinney, TX, USA
Programs: United Silver; AA Plat/2MM; Marriott LT Titanium; Hilton Gold
Posts: 11,727
Unfortunately, the certificate has to be valid at the start of your stay. When the cert expires, it will essentially disappear from Marriott's system and won't be available for your stay.
Dec 3, 2018, 1:08 pm
#854
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 34
Thank you kindly. Another user suggested that converting this certificate to the new type (post merger I assume) will also extend the date. I'm going to call them and see what my options are.
Dec 3, 2018, 2:50 pm
#855
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: SFO, SJC, OAK
Programs: Globalist, Diamond via Aspire
Posts: 113
Hi Folks,
Need your help here. I have booked a 1 week stay at Wailea Beach Resort - Marriott, Maui using my old Cat 8 certificate for the coming spring break. However, we may not be able to go at March because of a job change.
1. should I just simply cancel the reservation and cert? How much points are we getting back?
2. is it possible to move the reservation to a later time, say summer or winter?
Thank you very much!
Need your help here. I have booked a 1 week stay at Wailea Beach Resort - Marriott, Maui using my old Cat 8 certificate for the coming spring break. However, we may not be able to go at March because of a job change.
1. should I just simply cancel the reservation and cert? How much points are we getting back?
2. is it possible to move the reservation to a later time, say summer or winter?
Thank you very much!