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Old Nov 6, 2018, 8:03 pm
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If i can add some things, although nothing brand new :

points missing for stays in september : no answers at all to my twenty mails, and when I call, impossibility to solve the problems : just the message stay calm and be patient . I do not try anymore to report anomalies in more recent stays, I just give up.

Ambassador status reached some weeks ago : nothing received about my ambassador. Quite disappointing compared to my first experience with this status with SPG 6 years ago.

discovering it is impossible to email to a Marriott concierge ( no email published) , just possible to call and pay long distance fees.

taking into account the mess following the merge, what a pity Marriott and Starwood agreed on a takeover.

hard to say , but Accor is offering currently better services and recognition than Starriott.
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Old Nov 6, 2018, 9:39 pm
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Originally Posted by Jean97

Ambassador status reached some weeks ago : nothing received about my ambassador. Quite disappointing compared to my first experience with this status with SPG 6 years ago.

discovering it is impossible to email to a Marriott concierge ( no email published) , just possible to call and pay long distance fees.
1. even before the purge - errr - merge - a few weeks wouldnt be that big a deal.
2. why cant you email them? have you tried: [email protected]
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Old Nov 7, 2018, 12:40 am
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Originally Posted by Jean97
If i can add some things, although nothing brand new :

points missing for stays in september : no answers at all to my twenty mails, and when I call, impossibility to solve the problems : just the message stay calm and be patient . I do not try anymore to report anomalies in more recent stays, I just give up.

Ambassador status reached some weeks ago : nothing received about my ambassador. Quite disappointing compared to my first experience with this status with SPG 6 years ago.

discovering it is impossible to email to a Marriott concierge ( no email published) , just possible to call and pay long distance fees.

taking into account the mess following the merge, what a pity Marriott and Starwood agreed on a takeover.

hard to say , but Accor is offering currently better services and recognition than Starriott.

Thanks for your patience.

Due to high email volume after merge, it would take longer time for the team to handle missing stay requests.

If you would like us to help with missing stay issue, please enclosed the folios and send to [email protected] .

We are happy to forward your comments to Ambassador team, please PM us your information.

Best Regards,

Abbey Liu
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Marriott International
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Old Nov 7, 2018, 6:51 am
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8/18 was almost three months ago now...at what point can "high email/phone volume" no longer be blamed?
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Old Nov 7, 2018, 7:01 am
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Originally Posted by UA-NYC
8/18 was almost three months ago now...at what point can "high email/phone volume" no longer be blamed?
With the number of people they have upset/confused, my guess is another year or two. Staff reductions is not helping relieve any of the backlog and the moving target they have created with continuing changes just stirs the pot even more. We will be on this merry-go-round for a while longer.
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Old Nov 7, 2018, 7:25 am
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My ambassador called to introduce herself to me last week, just a few business days after achieving the status. I haven’t attempted using her services yet, but at least the prompt introduction was a good start; better than some here seem to be experiencing.
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Old Nov 7, 2018, 9:58 am
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Originally Posted by RogerD408
With the number of people they have upset/confused, my guess is another year or two. Staff reductions is not helping relieve any of the backlog and the moving target they have created with continuing changes just stirs the pot even more. We will be on this merry-go-round for a while longer.
Per VFTW, while calls spiked early, today "call volume to our loyalty lines is running roughly 2% to 3% over seasonal norms and wait times are back to normal." LOL what garbage.

https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea...yalty-program/
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Old Nov 7, 2018, 10:09 am
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Originally Posted by UA-NYC
Per VFTW, while calls spiked early, today "call volume to our loyalty lines is running roughly 2% to 3% over seasonal norms and wait times are back to normal." LOL what garbage.

https://viewfromthewing.boardingarea...yalty-program/
First, I doubt that has much to do with Ambassador elites.

Second, I doubt those figures are garbage—since it is illegal to materially exaggerate or discount such statements in an earnings call. Nor is there really any incentive to lie, as Sorenson already had noted a height of call volumes being 35% higher than normal and with much longer hold times.

Third, despite the IT integration issues and the “noise” we know all too well here on FlyerTalk, there still has been no noticeable migration of customers from Marriott to any of its competitors. While Marriott Q3 revenues were down and its stock took the concomitant hit, the exact same scenario was equally as true for all of Marriott’s competitors, including Hilton, Hyatt, IHG, and Accor. Not a single one of those competitors noted any increaesed bookings or larger customer migrations in their earnings calls, either.

Turns out, it is just noise.
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Old Nov 7, 2018, 10:33 am
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I hit ambassador status about 10 days ago and haven't heard anything. Pity, as I'm going on a birthday/vacation trip and have tried contacting the hotel concierge for dinner reservations in Taipei and got no reply.
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Old Nov 7, 2018, 10:49 am
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Originally Posted by thechosenuno
I hit ambassador status about 10 days ago and haven't heard anything. Pity, as I'm going on a birthday/vacation trip and have tried contacting the hotel concierge for dinner reservations in Taipei and got no reply.
Congrats! I encourage you to message the Lurkers here on FlyerTalk and ask them to expedite the contact or share the Ambassador program phone number.
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Old Nov 7, 2018, 10:53 am
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Originally Posted by bhrubin


First, I doubt that has much to do with Ambassador elites.

Second, I doubt those figures are garbage—since it is illegal to materially exaggerate or discount such statements in an earnings call. Nor is there really any incentive to lie, as Sorenson already had noted a height of call volumes being 35% higher than normal and with much longer hold times.

Third, despite the IT integration issues and the “noise” we know all too well here on FlyerTalk, there still has been no noticeable migration of customers from Marriott to any of its competitors. While Marriott Q3 revenues were down and its stock took the concomitant hit, the exact same scenario was equally as true for all of Marriott’s competitors, including Hilton, Hyatt, IHG, and Accor. Not a single one of those competitors noted any increaesed bookings or larger customer migrations in their earnings calls, either.

Turns out, it is just noise.
Agreed. I'll confess, I'm surprised since I find such obvious issues with the website post 8/18. I would have thought bookings would have dropped. But, reading through the answers to the analysts questions -- which would create significant exposure of they were wrong -- bookings through the website are up, calls are now within a normal range, forward bookings are fine.
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Old Nov 7, 2018, 11:11 am
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Originally Posted by C17PSGR
Agreed. I'll confess, I'm surprised since I find such obvious issues with the website post 8/18. I would have thought bookings would have dropped. But, reading through the answers to the analysts questions -- which would create significant exposure of they were wrong -- bookings through the website are up, calls are now within a normal range, forward bookings are fine.
I also thought they might notice a small dip in future bookings. But they didn’t.

I found the fact that luxury and upper upscale revenues were up and select service revenues were down to be very intriguing. I actually wouldn’t be surprised if most of the noise arose from those who happen to stay more often in the select service segment.

I always have believed that there is more value to the Ambassador program for those staying in the nicer service brands—upper upscale and especially the luxury brands—and for those who spend more. I’ve always gotten tarred and feathered, sometime even by moderators, for those beliefs. I’ve been accused of being condescending and elitist for those beliefs. I’ve been accused of bragging because of those statements. Yet the new $20K revenue requirement and successive data points like these from this most recent Marriott earnings call continue to reinforce that my beliefs are not remotely outrageous and might be right on the money.

The other important point that I noticed from this Marriott earnings call is how important the big group and corporate bookings are to the bottom and top lines of the select service and upscale brand segments. Sorenson was quick to note that weaker September figures were largely due to drops in those segments, while leisure and individual/small company travelers (like me) were far more likely to impact the upper upscale and luxury brand segments. That may be why the noise arising from individual or small potatoes company customers who stay often at select service brands has so little impact on Marriott; they’re just drowned out by the much more significant impact of big groups and corporate customers.
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Old Nov 7, 2018, 10:21 pm
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Does the IT glitch affects only web/ apps booking ? if yes then thats explains as majority of customer book through travel agent or OTA hence not affected by Marriott IT glitch.

With the value of ambassador, I would say thats because the ability of mid to lower end of hotels to pamper their individual guest like zoo panda is limited.
St Regises and likes will have more staff / guest ratio, and have more means to deliver personalised service.
Cant expect room cleaner at Courtyard provide St Regis' level butler service.
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Old Nov 8, 2018, 6:32 am
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Originally Posted by kaizen7
Does the IT glitch affects only web/ apps booking ? if yes then thats explains as majority of customer book through travel agent or OTA hence not affected by Marriott IT glitch.

With the value of ambassador, I would say thats because the ability of mid to lower end of hotels to pamper their individual guest like zoo panda is limited.
St Regises and likes will have more staff / guest ratio, and have more means to deliver personalised service.
Cant expect room cleaner at Courtyard provide St Regis' level butler service.
It's a bit scary when you project the issues we are seeing to the mega-customer corporate travel (sorry, but FTers and a very small percentage of members although very vocal). I don't see any participants here that represent that segment, but although they may have their own front-end to book Marriott rooms, I can't help but to think similar hiccups are happening there. Given their volume of business is much greater than any of us may ever see, I suspect they are very seasoned on how to get the issues resolved in a much more timely fashion. And since these agents are more attuned to isolating their customers from problems, we may never know just how pervasive these problems are, not to say what we are seeing is minor.
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Old Nov 8, 2018, 9:03 am
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Originally Posted by bhrubin
I always have believed that there is more value to the Ambassador program for those staying in the nicer service brands—upper upscale and especially the luxury brands—and for those who spend more. I’ve always gotten tarred and feathered, sometime even by moderators, for those beliefs. I’ve been accused of being condescending and elitist for those beliefs. I’ve been accused of bragging because of those statements. Yet the new $20K revenue requirement and successive data points like these from this most recent Marriott earnings call continue to reinforce that my beliefs are not remotely outrageous and might be right on the money.


Based solely on your posts, my impression is a that you are a high value and somewhat high maintenance customer with a great ambassador that you utilize effectively. Since your reviews aren't accompanied by a "Maximize Your Purchase" section and credit card signup links, I place more value on your opinions than the reviews of many well-known bloggers. Although your needs and expectations are different from mine, I appreciate the thoroughness of your reviews and your willingness to answer questions.
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