Is it normal for server to ask for tip at Sheraton Club Lounges?
#46
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Germany-Dresden
Programs: Bonvoy AMB/LTE , Diamond HH, SEN LH
Posts: 181
#47
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Cairo, Egypt
Programs: Qatar Plat
Posts: 235
My thoughts exactly. Especially if you're in a developing country where salaries for such jobs are so low to begin with. Giving small presents for exemplary service is also a good strategy. It makes them feel good, they do a good job, and they'll remember you for next time. Everyone wins. ^
#48
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: HEL
Programs: SPG LTP, hotels, OWE, STE+, *G, Octopus
Posts: 5,789
I would expect 3rdworldresident being Thai meant the American tipping culture, i.e. tipping for no apparent reason - because everyone else does(TM).
#49
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: GVA (Greater Vancouver Area)
Programs: DREAD Gold; UA 1.035MM; Bonvoy Au-197; PCC Elite+; CCC Elite+; MSC C-12; CWC Au-197; WoH Dis
Posts: 52,140
Mine is, but not in the direction they intend.
#50
Join Date: May 1998
Location: australia
Posts: 5,762
Well the nurse who has several years training and some valuable skills and who might earn less than the hotel waiter before even considering tips doesn't - almost all salaries are low in developing countries, not just those of people employed in the hospitality industry.
http://www.payscale.com/research/IN/...f_Nurse/Salary
http://www.payscale.com/research/IN/...c_Hotel/Salary
I don't have anything against your charity/generosity but there is a bigger picture and it is not a case of Everyone wins - if you can make more money and tips on top in a low stress/low skill/low responsibility job then why bother trying to advance yourself/developing skills of great value to society - remuneration has to in some way reflect that. Yields soapbox to next speaker
#53
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: BOS/UTH
Programs: AA LT PLT; QR GLD; Bonvoy LT TIT
Posts: 12,764
Well the nurse who has several years training and some valuable skills and who might earn less than the hotel waiter before even considering tips doesn't - almost all salaries are low in developing countries, not just those of people employed in the hospitality industry.
#54
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Toronto
Programs: UA 1K, AC MM E75, Marriott LT Ti, IHG Dia Amb, Hyatt Glob
Posts: 15,521
My thoughts exactly. Especially if you're in a developing country where salaries for such jobs are so low to begin with. Giving small presents for exemplary service is also a good strategy. It makes them feel good, they do a good job, and they'll remember you for next time. Everyone wins. ^
We gave a $20 tip to a driver in Bali who spent the day touring us around the island (9 hr tour cost us $60). His eyes and stunned look said it all. Loved it.
#56
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: BKK
Programs: World of Hyatt Globalist; Marriott Bonvoy LTP; IHG Plat
Posts: 2,234
I, as a Thai citizen, do tip the staff who deserve it. (I'm not a rich guy at all, especially by the US standard or other 1st world countries)
By the way, sorry for my poor English. I'll try to improve it for communicating efficiently.
Sometimes I want to explain my opinion clearly but I don't know how to express it in English. So I ended up posting in a very short sentence.
Last edited by 3rdworldresident; Mar 13, 2014 at 11:14 am
#57
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Chicago
Programs: AA EP, UA Gold-MM, UA 1K (former), GS (former),SPG LT Platinum, Hyatt Diamond, HH Diamond
Posts: 2,299
I think this thread has gone off topic. The issue is not if you think it appropriate to tip or not (and we've already established there are two schools of thought on that).
The issue is it appropriate to solicit a tip and in that case my opinion is that even if it a tip is deserved/warranted it is NOT OK to request one in a club lounge. And it is especially crass to present a $0 in an attempt to solicit one.
The issue is it appropriate to solicit a tip and in that case my opinion is that even if it a tip is deserved/warranted it is NOT OK to request one in a club lounge. And it is especially crass to present a $0 in an attempt to solicit one.
#58
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: HEL
Programs: SPG LTP, hotels, OWE, STE+, *G, Octopus
Posts: 5,789
This whole thread was off-topic. Am I the only one who finds the title misleading (yellow press material) - where does OP in his post say someone asked for a tip directly? I don't think a $0 bill is asking for a tip straight off the bat - it might be a statistical thing or whatever.
#59
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: DTW
Programs: SPG Plt, Hyatt Diamond, DL
Posts: 369
Brilliant
I guess there are no other Tarantino fans in these parts...
I don't tip because society says I have to. All right, if someone deserves a tip, if they really put forth an effort, I'll give them something, a little something extra. But this tipping automatically, it's for the birds. As far as I'm concerned, they're just doing their job.
#60
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: KANSAS CITY
Programs: DL DM, MARRIOTT AMBASSADOR LIFETIME TITANIUM
Posts: 453
I think the thread has been one of the most entertaining thread in years. I have laughed a lot. Off topic or not. Also helps me understand people that are selfish. Hope that $2 or $3 makes a big difference in your life. The staff might not be making minimum wage but a lot less than most staying at the hotel. If they are giving you a slip to write in a tip, they are asking for a tip. If the hotel is giving them the slips to hand out, then probably they expect guest to supplement their salary. You show the hotel by not tipping the people that need it. Great job.