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spgbus Feb 10, 2014 8:32 am

Hi, Alex,

Is there a limit on the number of unique Debit Account for a mortgage payment? (per Day/Week/Month). Reported in this FW thread, someone was suspended for <20 payments in a week.
http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/finance/1335758/

Thanks

vagrants Feb 10, 2014 8:35 am


Originally Posted by spgbus (Post 22321050)
Hi, Alex,

Is there a limit on the number of unique Debit Account for a mortgage payment? (per Day/Week/Month). Reported in this FW thread, someone was suspended for <20 payments in a week.
http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/finance/1335758/

Thanks

Use of GCs with that. Venturion is supposedly a heavy hitter...and we don't know if he/she played 529 game.

By the way, wasn't max limit reported here at least for per day limit?

karenfly Feb 10, 2014 10:12 am

I am trying to add Vanguard 529 plan number, but it tells me it is a wrong number. It is correct number. Does anyone have the same experience?

Yaoyao Feb 10, 2014 10:25 am


Originally Posted by karenfly (Post 22321661)
I am trying to add Vanguard 529 plan number, but it tells me it is a wrong number. It is correct number. Does anyone have the same experience?

I have same issue with College savings Iowa. I copied the account number exactly the same as on statement, but it didn't work. Then I tried to get rid of "-" within the number, and it worked. I'll see if the money arrives successfully though.

michael_v Feb 10, 2014 10:49 am

Evolve hit the blogs.

cuebert Feb 10, 2014 10:53 am


Originally Posted by vagrants (Post 22320938)
...Maybe use Chase Ink variants to buy EVOLVE Pay Bucks

Ink is only 5% on the service, not the products. (Phone=no, phone bill=yes)

heyeaglefn Feb 10, 2014 10:54 am

I thought 529's were already shut down.

MsArbi Feb 10, 2014 11:43 am

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jmw Feb 10, 2014 11:44 am


Originally Posted by karenfly (Post 22321661)
I am trying to add Vanguard 529 plan number, but it tells me it is a wrong number. It is correct number. Does anyone have the same experience?

Don't even bother. If you manage to get a penny in there through Evolve, the people at Vanguard will bust you. All of the 529 plans are aware of Evolve and MS in general.

shel Feb 10, 2014 12:54 pm


Originally Posted by MsArbi (Post 22322286)
This is what I'm reading from Alex's posts.
- We can use all the anonymous debit GCs we want.
- There is no threshold or criteria that turn legitimate payments into churn payments.
- We should stick to paying real bills that are reasonable for their types.

So...
- If I have two separate mortgage bills, each $5,000 a month, for a total of $10,000 then Evolve is OK with 20x$500 payments with anonymous debit GC funds because they are legitimate spending.
- If I have a $10,000 real estate tax bill once a year, then Evolve is OK because it's legitimate spending.
- If I have a $10,000 JC Penny bill every month, then Evolve is NOT OK because it's unlikely to be legitimate spending.

Cash-out Refi will be on the rise...

karenfly Feb 10, 2014 1:05 pm


Originally Posted by Yaoyao (Post 22321744)
I have same issue with College savings Iowa. I copied the account number exactly the same as on statement, but it didn't work. Then I tried to get rid of "-" within the number, and it worked. I'll see if the money arrives successfully though.

Thanks! That works for me. We will see whether the money will arrive.

karenfly Feb 10, 2014 1:08 pm


Originally Posted by jmw (Post 22322289)
Don't even bother. If you manage to get a penny in there through Evolve, the people at Vanguard will bust you. All of the 529 plans are aware of Evolve and MS in general.

I don't understand. Why do not 529 plans like money that are from Evolve?

Szamboti Feb 10, 2014 1:35 pm

can anyone confirm that evolve paybucks are being found now at office supply stores?

spgbus Feb 10, 2014 2:28 pm


Originally Posted by MsArbi (Post 22322286)
- If I have two separate mortgage bills, each $5,000 a month, for a total of $10,000 then Evolve is OK with 20x$500 payments with anonymous debit GC funds because they are legitimate spending.

Would be 20x$500 an acceptable limit on the # of payment per month? How about 10x$100 per day for 10 consecutive days each month for 12 months? Even it is for legitimate mortgage payment, would Evolve be obligated to conform with whatever government regulation is to file any report or simply shut you down?

jmw Feb 10, 2014 2:40 pm


Originally Posted by shel (Post 22322818)
Cash-out Refi will be on the rise...

My mortgage is far below today's rates. Maybe this will be an opportunity in a year or so if the economy tanks again. I used to serial refi, so it is possible. We'll be supporting the mortgage broker industry if that happens.


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