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It's a literacy test that's easy to pass.

This is the Serve thread. Post questions or information concerning other topics in the appropriate threads elsewhere in this forum.

For additional information on using prepaid debit cards, see PIN available now for Visa/MC prepaid debit cards.

Mentions of Softcard (formerly ISIS) are purely incidental to setting up and using Serve/Softcard. Softcard does not hold money, and you cannot load to it.


You cannot make an ACH pull from Serve. The direct deposit account and routing numbers are for deposits only.

https://www.serve.com/#/add-cash

If your card doesn't say "debit" on the front, it isn't a debit card.


Loads at 7-11 and CVS are cash only. Debit cards are NOT allowed.

Loads at Walmart have been confirmed with debit cards. Self checkout does not work for loading Serve. Many Walmart stores are enforcing a rule against the use of prepaid debit cards when loading, even though the register and the MCE do not enforce. Do not make your prepaid debit cards visible. Show them a bank debit card if asked, then discreetly use your prepaid card when asked to swipe. Otherwise, you may be asked by management to never visit the MC (Walmart Money Center) again to load.

Debit loading at Family Dollar appears to be limited to $500 per day per store total (not per person or per account). Whoever gets there first gets the load for the day. Troubleshooting loading problems at FD


Normal Serve
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $200/day and $1,000/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $7k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

Serve/Softcard Check if your phone/network is compatible
  • Serve loading via VR/MP or WM/FD load: $2,500/day and $5,000 total per calendar month
  • Online Debit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month (NOT a gift card with a PIN that some people call a "Debit card")
  • Online Credit Card Load - $500/day and $1,500/month
  • Checking/Savings Account - $2,000/month
  • Checks - $2,000/day and $10,000/month
  • ATM Withdrawals - $750/day and $2,000/month

You can combine the three methods above and load a total of $8k/month to a single Serve account for miles/points earning purposes, but beware that you're also subject to a $10,000/month add money limit which also includes check deposits, ACH transfers, and Serve transfers.

The SD card in the iPhone case used for Softcard is account specific. Once an account has been registered to a card, it cannot be used for another.

Temp Serve
You can only load a maximum of $500/day, $1000/month on a temporary card. Once you get your permanent card, then you can load more. The initial $500 when you purchase the temp card doesn't count against the $5,000/month load limit.


Online Credit Card Loads
Only one card can be linked at a time.

As of 10/09/14, coding of credit card loads changed. In general, Mastercard and American Express cards post as before; see below for information on point earning. Visa cards transact as a cash advance and, therefore, require available CA limit; although most cards post as a purchase.

The Chase Ink Bold is a charge card and has no cash advance ability.

Treated as purchase, earns cashback/points/miles:
  • Bank of America (FIA) (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Barclaycard (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Capital One (Mastercard, Visa)
  • Chase (MasterCard, Visa)
  • Citi (MasterCard, American Express)
  • Discover

Treated as purchase, but doesn't earn points/miles:
  • American Express (May count toward minimum spend)

Posts as a cash advance:
For online CC/DC loads, the name on the Serve account is supposed to match the name of the primary or joint cardholder. So using someone else's CC/DB card to load a Serve account is not allowed.

Several people have reported no problems with loading with an AU card in the Serve account holder's name. Increase your chances by making sure the AUs social security number is on file with the Credit Card. YMMV.

When adding a new card you will usually need to call Serve Account security (1-800-555-4318) for verification of the new card on the second load try. This verification usually requires uploading of a photo of your ID and the credit card. You may pre-emptively avoid the error by going to the above website, logging in, and uploading a scan of a photo ID and the card you are trying to add. You may call back to expedite approval.


Online Debit Card Loads
For online debit load, only use of bank-issued cards is allowed. The use of pre-paid debit cards (Netspend, Paypower, Univision, Paypal*, etc.) and VGC/MGC/AGCs is not allowed. While initial transactions may work, your account will eventually be flagged.


Switching to Serve or Serve/Softcard
Helpful instruction post, latest. Thanks raeneye.

Also see this thread: Switching from Serve to BlueBird - 31 day wait???

Switching to Serve/Softcard
  1. Call up Bluebird or Serve and close account. Make sure your account is at $0.00 before calling. Just close it, don't ask for a temp Serve or anything. CSR will say account is now closed and you have 30 days to change your mind should you decide to re-open it.
  2. Download the Softcard mobile app from Apple App Store or Google Play Store. If you're an iPhone user you have to buy the NFC CashWrap case from your carrier store.
  3. Launch Softcard Mobile App and create Softcard account. You'll be asked if you want to open a Serve account; Yes you do. Start the registration through Softcard mobile app for a Serve account, once you are finished you will be told you will receive an Email from Amex with your account approval. I waited a few hours and called Serve customer service like the wiki says and completed the registration.
  4. Once I got off the phone with Serve I received an email from Serve where I verified my account and email; at this point Amex Serve is open.
  5. Launch Softcard Mobile app again click add new
  6. Activate card with Softcard and select Amex Serve. Follow the instructions & you're good to add. Once this is complete a Serve Card will populate in Softcard. Must activate physical card to get full load limits. Check account status and it automatically credits to your serve account based on who you signed up with. (Verizon - $25, T-Mobile - $50, AT&T - $30 (For AT&T: Get $15 w/activation. Earn additional $15 w/account replenishment))

Switching from BB to Serve
  1. Login to BB account, bring account balance to Zero, (By Bill Pay, Send money, etc..)
  2. Call BB, tell them that you want to open a serve account and close your current BB account. after they check everything they will say something like: "Your account will be permanently closed after 31 days, you can reopen it within 31 day if you change your mind, and you can apply for your new Serve account now, just make sure use the exact same register info from BB."
  3. at this point BB is closed. next morning, goto CVS and get a temporary Serve card (only with cash), load $500, ($2.95 waived, Yeah!!)
  4. get back home, register temporary Serve online, First error: "phone number already registered, please try a different number" could be the my BB's ghost account still showing up on their system, could be my info is not match my BB's registration? i'm not really sure at this point. What I did is keep the same number but change from Cell phone to home phone. and registration went through
  5. after the register and login, second error: "We're still processing your application. Please check your email for an update"
  6. I have see people on the thread reported waiting for weeks for the same message, So, I pickup the phone and called them, ask them to speed up the process.
  7. CSR, told me that my account went to "account security protection department" transfer me to them.
  8. at account security protection department, they told me need to call back on my phone number which I registered to verify.
  9. after the call back of verification, CSR told me that my new Serve account is active now, email address verification will be send with in 5 minutes, permanent card will be received within 7-10 days.
  10. CSR also told me the I can load and spend on the temporary card, but not bill pay.

The number to call to approve your registration after closing Bluebird: Serve Account security 1-800-555-4318



Loading with debit card at Walmart register
Loads at register over $500 will sometimes trigger ID requirement. There is a limit of four swipes per transaction; this means your card plus three payments.

Training a WM cashier:
  • If the WM cashier doesn't know how to load the card, advise them to enter "70" then press "action code".
  • If you are using a temp card that doesn't have your name on it, you can swipe the card from your side of the terminal. The WM rep never has to touch any of your cards. The screen will say "enter account." That is your prompt to slide the card.
  • The terminal will ask the WM employee if you are loading in multiples of $2000. Advise them to enter "no."
  • Avoid saying gift card. Always refer to your card as a debit card.

Error Messages:
DEBIT NOT AVAILABLE
Received when I used a card I thought I had activated but hadn't.

DEBIT NOT APPROVED
Received when the card's monthly load limit had been reached.

TENDER NOT ALLOWED
Card was incorrectly read, or wrong PIN entered.

HOST TIMEOUT
Connection problems. The GC may be drained but the transaction should reverse itself, and funds will become available again. Try again later.


Using Serve
For online bill pay
  • You can pay the credit card that you used to buy VRs/GCs
  • Error 1302 means that you have 1 pending payment the same amount as the one you just submitted. For example, 1000 bill pay to sapphire preferred from Friday and then on Saturday you submit another bill pay for 1000 to sapphire preferred, you will get this error.
  • Tip: if using online bill pay to the same place multiple times, vary your amounts by $0.01 to make it easier to track since your confirmation number does not match the tracking number on your credit card statement



For bank transfers
Under Settings --> Funding & Transfers --> Bank & Cards --> U.S. Bank Account, you can add your bank info and transfer funds from your Serve card directly to your bank. The bank account must be verified, either by the standard "deposit 2 small sums into your account, such as $0.23 & $0.42" method, or doing an "instant verification" by actually logging into your bank account while still logged into Serve.
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Old Aug 9, 2012, 2:03 pm
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Originally Posted by 2useless
Sorry, I was running out to the office when I (mis)read it. Yes, in that case, $1000 is the max you could transfer.
Great, thanks for confirming - 2useless and ma91pmh
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Old Aug 9, 2012, 2:40 pm
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Has anyone had an issue with their account today?

I tried to log in to both my account and Mrs. Redtop's. In both cases I got to the security question, then it hurled me back to the login screen. Called customer service, they said they had no idea, but would queue it for investigation into the problem.
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Old Aug 9, 2012, 3:07 pm
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How does one tell if the linked Visa/MC gift cards have indeed been reclassified as debit cards? I do see the linked GCs being moved from between the Debit Card and Credit Card headings to now being above the Debit Card heading, and the Debit Card Linked graphic appears. However, when I attempt to fund from these Visa gift cards, I still get the warning that the issuer might charge a fee for cash advance. Is there any way to confirm before actually going through with a funding action?
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Old Aug 9, 2012, 3:10 pm
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Originally Posted by redtop43
Has anyone had an issue with their account today?

I tried to log in to both my account and Mrs. Redtop's. In both cases I got to the security question, then it hurled me back to the login screen. Called customer service, they said they had no idea, but would queue it for investigation into the problem.
Yep. Happened to me as well (tried it on FF first). Use IE and it will work fine.
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Old Aug 9, 2012, 3:31 pm
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Originally Posted by Panzerspitze
How does one tell if the linked Visa/MC gift cards have indeed been reclassified as debit cards? I do see the linked GCs being moved from between the Debit Card and Credit Card headings to now being above the Debit Card heading, and the Debit Card Linked graphic appears.
That's your sign

I still get the warning that the issuer might charge a fee for cash advance.
Just ignore it.

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Old Aug 9, 2012, 3:32 pm
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Originally Posted by redtop43
Has anyone had an issue with their account today?

I tried to log in to both my account and Mrs. Redtop's. In both cases I got to the security question, then it hurled me back to the login screen. Called customer service, they said they had no idea, but would queue it for investigation into the problem.
No, but Gowallet is down today
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Old Aug 9, 2012, 4:57 pm
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Not sure if this was posted (I read through and didn't see anything), but there's currently a promo for $25 credit for new accounts that load $25 on their Serve card.

Serve $25 for $25

Good til Sept 30th.
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Old Aug 9, 2012, 7:14 pm
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From Serve's help center about daily limit for adding funds:

"... up to $200 per day via debit card, and up to $100 per day via credit card or debit card". So, what is the limit for debit cards - $200 or $100 per day (I apologize if it is stupid question)?

I enroll my Visa GC as funding source. I had to use "credit card" instead of debit, even if it has a "debit" sign. I was able to add $100 per day, extra $100 were rejected. It seems that somehow GC is treated as "credit card", not as "debit", since daily limit is supposed to be $200.
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Old Aug 9, 2012, 7:33 pm
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Has anyone has success with a 'white bean' branded Visa GC? (not a reload variety but a std GC)

I keep getting an error msg when I attempt to link it
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Old Aug 9, 2012, 10:53 pm
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Originally Posted by Stoughton
Has anyone has success with a 'white bean' branded Visa GC? (not a reload variety but a std GC)

I keep getting an error msg when I attempt to link it
Let me guess, when you registered, it only asked for your zip code (as opposed to name/address). I tried 2 different of those gift cards, none of them linked.
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Old Aug 9, 2012, 10:54 pm
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Originally Posted by jk2
From Serve's help center about daily limit for adding funds:

"... up to $200 per day via debit card, and up to $100 per day via credit card or debit card". So, what is the limit for debit cards - $200 or $100 per day (I apologize if it is stupid question)?

I enroll my Visa GC as funding source. I had to use "credit card" instead of debit, even if it has a "debit" sign. I was able to add $100 per day, extra $100 were rejected. It seems that somehow GC is treated as "credit card", not as "debit", since daily limit is supposed to be $200.
Ok... how did you miss the point that you first link the GCs as a credit card (it's the only way you can), and then you wait (it seems over night on week nights) for serve.com themselves to 're-link' them as debit cards? I mean, this has only been the entire essence of the conversation since I reported it last week.

A recap for your benefit:

Originally Posted by thehawk75
...Gift cards I linked around midnight last night, as credit cards which I must, were moved automatically to 'debit card section' by the next morning around 8AM, and yup, I was able to use them as though they had 'Debit Card' limit ($200 per day, $100 per month) instead of the 'Credit Card Limit' ($100 per day, $250 per month).

This is a really cool development, for me anyway... ^
Originally Posted by Stoughton
Linked a Visa GC on 08/04 (sat). Card was variable load, with $500 original balance. Had $250 when linked.

Linked as a CC, and was used as a CC 2x ($100 & $50). This a.m, the same Visa GC showed as a Debit and the remaining $100 was taken off.
Originally Posted by thehawk75
I noticed the VISA GC's linked as CC's on Thursday evening re-linked by Friday morning as Debit Cards.

However, the VISA GC's I linked on Friday as CC's, remained linked as CC's until this (Tuesday) morning when I found they had gone to Debit Cards.

I guess something does seem to run on Thursday nights/Friday early morning and Monday Nights/Tuesday Early Mornings anyway... Nothing on weekends.
Originally Posted by T3pleShot
Boy, finally..
I had previously linked/unlinked a Visa variable load gift card purchased at Safeway (managed at www.giftcardmall.com/mygift). I again linked it a couple of days back as credit and now it got moved to debit. This is good stuff. running to safeway to get moar gift cards!
And literally, only 3 posts prior to yours, is this conversation:

Originally Posted by Panzerspitze
How does one tell if the linked Visa/MC gift cards have indeed been reclassified as debit cards? I do see the linked GCs being moved from between the Debit Card and Credit Card headings to now being above the Debit Card heading, and the Debit Card Linked graphic appears....
Originally Posted by Stoughton
That's your sign
I repeat this again and try to use as small words as possible so that everyone can understand:

1) You must link Gift Cards as Credit Cards on Serve
2) You log off
3) You wait until about the next morning, or so.
4) You log back into Serve, and you first CHECK to see if those Gift Cards you added, now appear 'ABOVE' the 'link a debit card link', NOT below it.
5) Once step 4 is complete, your gift cards are now 'Debit Cards' as far as Serve is concerned.
6) Enjoy the debit card limits (and fee structure in 2013).
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Old Aug 10, 2012, 4:13 am
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Thank you, thehawk75, for your detailed reply! Indeed, I read previous posts about GC and how to link them, but missed the point to wait until morning. .. Sorry, if this sounds stupid, but am I getting this right, that I can add daily $200 (from debit c.) +$100 (from CC or debit C) with upper limit for CC of $250/month? In other words, if I use only debit, I can add $300/day?
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Old Aug 10, 2012, 5:07 am
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Originally Posted by T3pleShot
Let me guess, when you registered, it only asked for your zip code (as opposed to name/address). I tried 2 different of those gift cards, none of them linked.
Yes, thanks. I figured it was a no-go
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Old Aug 10, 2012, 9:30 am
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Originally Posted by jk2
Thank you, thehawk75, for your detailed reply! Indeed, I read previous posts about GC and how to link them, but missed the point to wait until morning. .. Sorry, if this sounds stupid, but am I getting this right, that I can add daily $200 (from debit c.) +$100 (from CC or debit C) with upper limit for CC of $250/month? In other words, if I use only debit, I can add $300/day?
Yes, you can add a total of $300/day ($200 debit + $100 credit) until you hit the monthly limits of course ($1000 debit + $250 credit).

Also, you may have to wait longer than the next morning. It seems the 'relink' done by Serve does not occur on weekends. Just keep checking until your already linked GC's are appearing in the debit card section, and not the credit card section -- for Serve's not-the-most-intuitive-interface this means you wait until your already linked GC's appear ABOVE the 'link a debit card' link (not below it)
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Old Aug 10, 2012, 2:37 pm
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Originally Posted by thehawk75
Also, you may have to wait longer than the next morning. It seems the 'relink' done by Serve does not occur on weekends.
Yup, I added the GCs on Saturday. They didn't get reclassified until Monday.

They also only allow me to link a max of four cards. Not sure whether that's a limit on the total number of only credit cards, only debit cards, or both.
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