Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
Last edit by: oliver2002
Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
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DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22 FRA LH TO LH FRA-FRA FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM LH BUS - ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH - TRN 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH BR - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH EG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ET - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH IN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH JP - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH QA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH TH - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH US - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ZA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH - US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH KJR - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KWQ - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QDU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKL - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH ZWS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KLT BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH SDA BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH 0400-0799 - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH Y- TRN 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KJR Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KWQ Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QDU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKL Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH ZWS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KLT BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH SDA BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH CA- ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH AC- TRN ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH PL LO- ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH PL LO- SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 TRN -LH ---- 0100 0100 0100 -LH BR ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH EG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ET ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH IN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH JP ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH QA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH SG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ZA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TLV ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRN -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH -LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH TRN -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH TRS -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRN INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC BUS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRN -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH SC BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SC TRN -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRN -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH XER BUS -LH SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH TLV ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRN -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 SG ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 ZA ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC TRS -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH BUS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH Y-LH BUS ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH AC-LH TRN ---- ---- 0200 ---- LH US UA-LH ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH UA-LH BY ---- ---- ---- INV LH EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0100 -LH AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 -LH PL LO ---- 0100 ---- ---- -LH BR OS ---- 0100 ---- ---- SC -LH PL LO ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 LH BUS -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH BY -LH UA ---- ---- ---- INV LH QDU -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH QKL -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH ZWS -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH LG-LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH LG ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH AT OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
Connecting in Frankfurt [FRA] 2009-2023 (retired)
Dec 1, 2019, 6:27 pm
#5701
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Am I nuts to consider a United SDC to LH codeshares with a 50-minute layover at FRA? I'd be scheduled to arrive from LAX at 11:30 AM at gate Z62, departing for CDG at 12:20 PM from A36. I'm on a US passport with a checked bag.
LH could hopefully get me to Paris on the next flight, which lands at 5:45 PM, but that would only get me to Paris twenty minutes earlier than my current Swiss itinerary while costing me 3 hours in Los Angeles.
Recent history has the incoming flight arriving very near its scheduled time and being late more often than it's early.
Is there any chance I'd make this connection? The last time I had a connection at FRA, my family and I ended up spending the night there. It wasn't a great experience.
LH could hopefully get me to Paris on the next flight, which lands at 5:45 PM, but that would only get me to Paris twenty minutes earlier than my current Swiss itinerary while costing me 3 hours in Los Angeles.
Recent history has the incoming flight arriving very near its scheduled time and being late more often than it's early.
Is there any chance I'd make this connection? The last time I had a connection at FRA, my family and I ended up spending the night there. It wasn't a great experience.
I had a legal 45 minute JNB-FRA-WAW which I doubted I would make and did not One advantage you would have is that you arrive "clean" so no security.
if your flight is one ticket I would personally risk it knowing LH would need to rebook me. If separate tickets I would not.
If the inbound is on time you will make it. 15 minutes delay I doubt you would make it. anything between that would vary depending where in FRA you were departing from and how far you needed to run.
Dec 1, 2019, 6:34 pm
#5702
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A related question for those familiar with FRA.
I'm flying into FRA from LHR on a Monday in early May, arriving about 13:00. I'll be taking a ICE train to Heidelberg. How long should I expect passport control/customs and luggage getting to take?
Thanks!
I'm flying into FRA from LHR on a Monday in early May, arriving about 13:00. I'll be taking a ICE train to Heidelberg. How long should I expect passport control/customs and luggage getting to take?
Thanks!
Dec 1, 2019, 7:24 pm
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Is this one ticket or two?
I had a legal 45 minute JNB-FRA-WAW which I doubted I would make and did not One advantage you would have is that you arrive "clean" so no security.
if your flight is one ticket I would personally risk it knowing LH would need to rebook me. If separate tickets I would not.
If the inbound is on time you will make it. 15 minutes delay I doubt you would make it. anything between that would vary depending where in FRA you were departing from and how far you needed to run.
I had a legal 45 minute JNB-FRA-WAW which I doubted I would make and did not One advantage you would have is that you arrive "clean" so no security.
if your flight is one ticket I would personally risk it knowing LH would need to rebook me. If separate tickets I would not.
If the inbound is on time you will make it. 15 minutes delay I doubt you would make it. anything between that would vary depending where in FRA you were departing from and how far you needed to run.
Dec 3, 2019, 4:41 am
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Hello all and thank you for this informative thread!
I am travelling OSL-FRA-YYZ this week, with my flight from OSL arriving at 12:10 and the flight to YYZ departing at 13:25 -- 75 minutes CT (both LH flights). I am assuming I will not have to clear security, but will go through passport control (Norwegian citizen and Canadian Permanent Resident)? Does this sound tight? The flight from OSL seems to have a fair amount of delays, so I wonder if it would be worth it to pay for a seat at the front of the plane as this is a long-haul connection. Any opionions on or experiences with this transfer welcome, I usually go through LHR or KEF and have little experience with FRA.
I am travelling OSL-FRA-YYZ this week, with my flight from OSL arriving at 12:10 and the flight to YYZ departing at 13:25 -- 75 minutes CT (both LH flights). I am assuming I will not have to clear security, but will go through passport control (Norwegian citizen and Canadian Permanent Resident)? Does this sound tight? The flight from OSL seems to have a fair amount of delays, so I wonder if it would be worth it to pay for a seat at the front of the plane as this is a long-haul connection. Any opionions on or experiences with this transfer welcome, I usually go through LHR or KEF and have little experience with FRA.
Dec 3, 2019, 5:20 am
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Hello all and thank you for this informative thread!
I am travelling OSL-FRA-YYZ this week, with my flight from OSL arriving at 12:10 and the flight to YYZ departing at 13:25 -- 75 minutes CT (both LH flights). I am assuming I will not have to clear security, but will go through passport control (Norwegian citizen and Canadian Permanent Resident)? Does this sound tight? The flight from OSL seems to have a fair amount of delays, so I wonder if it would be worth it to pay for a seat at the front of the plane as this is a long-haul connection. Any opionions on or experiences with this transfer welcome, I usually go through LHR or KEF and have little experience with FRA.
I am travelling OSL-FRA-YYZ this week, with my flight from OSL arriving at 12:10 and the flight to YYZ departing at 13:25 -- 75 minutes CT (both LH flights). I am assuming I will not have to clear security, but will go through passport control (Norwegian citizen and Canadian Permanent Resident)? Does this sound tight? The flight from OSL seems to have a fair amount of delays, so I wonder if it would be worth it to pay for a seat at the front of the plane as this is a long-haul connection. Any opionions on or experiences with this transfer welcome, I usually go through LHR or KEF and have little experience with FRA.
You are correct about security and passport control in FRA. Your flight from OSL usually arrives at an A gate or A bus gate, and the YYZ flight departs from a B gate. When you arrive in A following the signs for B gates should take you to an elevator between gates A15 and A17. Go down the elevator, walk through the tunnel, go up another elevator at the end, turn right and go through passport control into non-Schengen B departures.
Im not sure if its worth paying for a seat near the front but it may be a small price to pay for peace of mind.
Dec 3, 2019, 6:15 am
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Hello all and thank you for this informative thread!
I am travelling OSL-FRA-YYZ this week, with my flight from OSL arriving at 12:10 and the flight to YYZ departing at 13:25 -- 75 minutes CT (both LH flights). I am assuming I will not have to clear security, but will go through passport control (Norwegian citizen and Canadian Permanent Resident)? Does this sound tight? The flight from OSL seems to have a fair amount of delays, so I wonder if it would be worth it to pay for a seat at the front of the plane as this is a long-haul connection. Any opionions on or experiences with this transfer welcome, I usually go through LHR or KEF and have little experience with FRA.
I am travelling OSL-FRA-YYZ this week, with my flight from OSL arriving at 12:10 and the flight to YYZ departing at 13:25 -- 75 minutes CT (both LH flights). I am assuming I will not have to clear security, but will go through passport control (Norwegian citizen and Canadian Permanent Resident)? Does this sound tight? The flight from OSL seems to have a fair amount of delays, so I wonder if it would be worth it to pay for a seat at the front of the plane as this is a long-haul connection. Any opionions on or experiences with this transfer welcome, I usually go through LHR or KEF and have little experience with FRA.
Welcome to FlyerTalk and the Lufthansa/M&M forum, Readingdemon!
You are correct about security and passport control in FRA. Your flight from OSL usually arrives at an A gate or A bus gate, and the YYZ flight departs from a B gate. When you arrive in A following the signs for B gates should take you to an elevator between gates A15 and A17. Go down the elevator, walk through the tunnel, go up another elevator at the end, turn right and go through passport control into non-Schengen B departures.
Im not sure if its worth paying for a seat near the front but it may be a small price to pay for peace of mind.
You are correct about security and passport control in FRA. Your flight from OSL usually arrives at an A gate or A bus gate, and the YYZ flight departs from a B gate. When you arrive in A following the signs for B gates should take you to an elevator between gates A15 and A17. Go down the elevator, walk through the tunnel, go up another elevator at the end, turn right and go through passport control into non-Schengen B departures.
Im not sure if its worth paying for a seat near the front but it may be a small price to pay for peace of mind.
Dec 3, 2019, 7:53 am
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Thank you, good point -- I should have checked the Star Alliance flights later in the day! I'm not too worried now that I see the AC flight direct to Pearson.
Dec 3, 2019, 7:54 am
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Welcome to FlyerTalk and the Lufthansa/M&M forum, Readingdemon!
You are correct about security and passport control in FRA. Your flight from OSL usually arrives at an A gate or A bus gate, and the YYZ flight departs from a B gate. When you arrive in A following the signs for B gates should take you to an elevator between gates A15 and A17. Go down the elevator, walk through the tunnel, go up another elevator at the end, turn right and go through passport control into non-Schengen B departures.
Im not sure if its worth paying for a seat near the front but it may be a small price to pay for peace of mind.
You are correct about security and passport control in FRA. Your flight from OSL usually arrives at an A gate or A bus gate, and the YYZ flight departs from a B gate. When you arrive in A following the signs for B gates should take you to an elevator between gates A15 and A17. Go down the elevator, walk through the tunnel, go up another elevator at the end, turn right and go through passport control into non-Schengen B departures.
Im not sure if its worth paying for a seat near the front but it may be a small price to pay for peace of mind.
Dec 3, 2019, 10:21 am
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The best map of FRA is available via Lufthansa app. Here is a screenshot of the exit from the elevator in B (marked with a red circle on the left). Passport control opposite Duty Free & Travel Value shop has e-pass gates which you should be able to use with your Norwegian passport, and staffed gates for Schengen/EU and non-EU passport holders. There are more checkpoints further on (which may not be always open) but there is usually no queue there especially if you can use e-pass gates.
Last edited by NewbieRunner; Dec 4, 2019 at 5:17 am Reason: confused Schengen and EU
Dec 3, 2019, 10:46 pm
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Be aware with the signs going from A to B. When I transfered last week, the elevators to the tunnel were out of order. Thus, the signs were suggesting to leave A to the departure hall and then enter B (with security check) again. Knowing about the stairs i did take the tunnel to B and was there in less than 5 minutes. I guess it would have taken me at least 30 minutes if i would have taken the route that was suggested by FRA.
Dec 3, 2019, 10:59 pm
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Be aware with the signs going from A to B. When I transfered last week, the elevators to the tunnel were out of order. Thus, the signs were suggesting to leave A to the departure hall and then enter B (with security check) again. Knowing about the stairs i did take the tunnel to B and was there in less than 5 minutes. I guess it would have taken me at least 30 minutes if i would have taken the route that was suggested by FRA.
Dec 4, 2019, 4:38 am
#5712
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The best map of FRA is available via Lufthansa app. Here is a screenshot of the exit from the elevator in B (marked with a red circle on the left). Passport control opposite Duty Free & Travel Value shop has e-pass gates which you should be able to use with your Norwegian passport, and staffed gates for Schengen and non-Schengen passport holders. There are more checkpoints further on (which may not be always open) but there is usually no queue there especially if you can use e-pass gates.
Dec 6, 2019, 10:17 am
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LH433 to ICE 576
I am trying to make LH 433 (Arrives 13.40) to ICE 576 Pl. Fern 6 departing 14.42 for travel to Hamburg with checked bags and kids. I was wondering if this is doable ?
Thank you in advance.
Thank you in advance.
Dec 6, 2019, 10:25 am
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Check to fly ORD-FRA-HAM. It is usually the same price as ORD-FRA and Lufthi would be responsible to take you to HAM if it's in a single ticket.
Dec 6, 2019, 11:22 am
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Yes, you should definitely fly to HAM