Jun 5, 2014, 1:13 pm
Last edit by: oliver2002
Welcome to the FRA connection thread! If you are new to FRA or this thread, please read the first post where you will find a summary of all pertinent information before asking more specific questions.
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Current MCT in FRA connecting to/from LH:
Code:
DMLH/FRA/LH/17MAY22 FRA LH TO LH FRA-FRA FROM - TO D/D D/I I/D I/I CC FLTN-FLTR ORGN EQP TM CS-CC FLTN-FLTR DEST EQP TM CS HHMM HHMM HHMM HHMM LH BUS - ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH - TRN 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH BR - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH CN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH EG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ET - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH IN - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH JP - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH QA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SG - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH TH - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH US - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH ZA - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH - US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH KJR - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KWQ - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QDU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKL - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH QKU - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH ZWS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH KLT BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH SDA BUS - ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH 0400-0799 - ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH Y- TRN 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KJR Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KWQ Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QDU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKL Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH QKU Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH ZWS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH KLT BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH SDA BUS Y- 0100 ---- ---- ---- LH CA- ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH AC- TRN ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH PL LO- ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH PL LO- SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 TRN -LH ---- 0100 0100 0100 -LH BR ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH CN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH EG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ET ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH IN ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH JP ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH QA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH SG ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH US ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH ZA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 -LH TLV ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRN -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 TRS -LH TLV ---- 0200 ---- 0200 -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH -LH BUS 0100 0100 0100 0100 LH TRN -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH TRS -LH BUS INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRN INV INV INV INV LH BUS -LH TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC BUS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRN -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC TRS -LH ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH SC BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH -LH SC TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH SC TRN -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRN INV INV INV INV LH SC TRN -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH SC TRS -LH SC TRS INV INV INV INV LH XER BUS -LH SC ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH TLV ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH BUS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRN ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH 0400-0799 -LH TRS ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH BUS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRN -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH TRS -LH 0400-0799 ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 SG ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC -LH 0400-0799 ZA ---- 0045 ---- 0045 LH SC TRS -LH 0400-0799 US ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH BUS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH BUS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRN -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH TRS -LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH Y-LH BUS ---- 0100 ---- ---- LH AC-LH TRN ---- ---- 0200 ---- LH US UA-LH ---- ---- 0100 0100 LH UA-LH BY ---- ---- ---- INV LH EW-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH EW-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0780-0780 NKG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 PEK ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0728-0728 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0732-0732 PVG ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0720-0720 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0782-0782 SHE ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH SN-LH 0786-0786 TAO ---- ---- ---- 0800 LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 BUS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRN Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- LH 0400-0799 -LH 0001-3799 TRS Y ---- ---- 0100 ---- -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0100 -LH AI ---- 0115 ---- 0115 -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 -LH PL LO ---- 0100 ---- ---- -LH BR OS ---- 0100 ---- ---- SC -LH PL LO ---- ---- ---- 0100 LH -LH UA ---- 0100 ---- 0100 LH -LH XQ ---- 0130 ---- 0130 LH BUS -LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH AC ---- 0200 ---- 0200 LH TRN -LH UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH BY -LH UA ---- ---- ---- INV LH QDU -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH QKL -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH ZWS -LH US UA ---- 0130 ---- ---- LH LG-LH AC ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH LG ---- ---- ---- 0200 LH AC-LH AT OS ---- ---- ---- 0100
Connecting in Frankfurt [FRA] 2009-2023 (retired)
Aug 28, 2019, 7:28 pm
#5476
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I looked at all other possible connections (this was redeeming a unique type of DL award), FRA was the least worst connection, risky as it is, that I could get, except AMS that works better, but that wasn't and generally isn't bookable.
Aug 28, 2019, 7:47 pm
#5477
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RIX. So I have to fly. Have to get in the morning, not evening, as I have a two hour drive after arrival, and only 3 days there total, so losing a day really is bad.
I looked at all other possible connections, FRA was the least worst connection, risky as it is, that I could get, except AMS that works better, but that wasn't bookable.
I looked at all other possible connections, FRA was the least worst connection, risky as it is, that I could get, except AMS that works better, but that wasn't bookable.
If your Delta ticket is flexible, I would cancel the DL ticket and modify the LH ticket to USA-FRA-RIX.
I hope that you have travel insurance that would cover any expenses if you miss your flight at FRA.
Aug 28, 2019, 8:30 pm
#5478
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If I were you, I would have booked all the way ( USA-FRA-RIX ) on LH, or on another airline that operates flights to RIX, in a single ticket, if it was super important that you wouldn't miss a day at your final destination.
If your Delta ticket is flexible, I would cancel the DL ticket and modify the LH ticket to USA-FRA-RIX.
I hope that you have travel insurance that would cover any expenses if you miss your flight at FRA.
If your Delta ticket is flexible, I would cancel the DL ticket and modify the LH ticket to USA-FRA-RIX.
I hope that you have travel insurance that would cover any expenses if you miss your flight at FRA.
If I miss the connection, then I am off to buying the evening BT or night LH FRA-RIX. Though if the incoming flight is late I am hoping I can get changed to AMS, before that flight departure, and then buy last minute BT AMS-RIX.
It's a long two nights, two days of flying here.. if I didn't have this cert to use, I'd have went one of the much more logical usual routes (HNL-NRT/HND/NGO/KIX/FUK/TPE/ICN/PVG/PEK-HEL-RIX), that is shorter, quicker, much more pleasant, and only crossing 1/2 an ocean vs two oceans.
Aug 28, 2019, 9:38 pm
#5479
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And you are aware of the fare LH will charge you for a same day one way FRA-RIX?
Aug 29, 2019, 12:21 am
#5480
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If it's a B gate for my Schengen flight (usually it's A, but sometimes B, I've been following), is it still faster to take the SkyLine to A, dedicated security there (at B I think it may dump me into the general queue?), and then take the tunnel back to B?
I very much know this is a tight connection. It's a calculated risk I am taking. If my US departing flight to FRA is delayed, I'll try to get put on to AMS instead, and then buy a last minute flight out of AMS. That's my back-up plan (if DL will do such a change in case of a delay, as is a big question also). Just a case where flight schedules do not line up well, and I have to buy two separate tix regardless..
I very much know this is a tight connection. It's a calculated risk I am taking. If my US departing flight to FRA is delayed, I'll try to get put on to AMS instead, and then buy a last minute flight out of AMS. That's my back-up plan (if DL will do such a change in case of a delay, as is a big question also). Just a case where flight schedules do not line up well, and I have to buy two separate tix regardless..
When is your trip? Please come back and let us know how you got on.
Aug 29, 2019, 12:37 am
#5481
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Only if... I had a special expiring DL award certificate to redeem here from two years ago, so had to book DL or DL JV partners. At least on my return I get to go direct on a single ticket from the return city.
If I miss the connection, then I am off to buying the evening BT or night LH FRA-RIX. Though if the incoming flight is late I am hoping I can get changed to AMS, before that flight departure, and then buy last minute BT AMS-RIX.
It's a long two nights, two days of flying here.. if I didn't have this cert to use, I'd have went one of the much more logical usual routes (HNL-NRT/HND/NGO/KIX/FUK/TPE/ICN/PVG/PEK-HEL-RIX), that is shorter, quicker, much more pleasant, and only crossing 1/2 an ocean vs two oceans.
If I miss the connection, then I am off to buying the evening BT or night LH FRA-RIX. Though if the incoming flight is late I am hoping I can get changed to AMS, before that flight departure, and then buy last minute BT AMS-RIX.
It's a long two nights, two days of flying here.. if I didn't have this cert to use, I'd have went one of the much more logical usual routes (HNL-NRT/HND/NGO/KIX/FUK/TPE/ICN/PVG/PEK-HEL-RIX), that is shorter, quicker, much more pleasant, and only crossing 1/2 an ocean vs two oceans.
Aug 29, 2019, 6:40 am
#5483
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Just bumping this as I think it might have gotten lost with all of this T2-T1 discussion:
What is the latest on B to A transfers (USA to Schengen)? I have 1:25 arriving at B22 and departing from A20. Last time I did this it was a mess, and was wondering if there's any tricks to avoid security and hopefully be able to grab a bite in the lounge. We are flying in J. Thanks!
What is the latest on B to A transfers (USA to Schengen)? I have 1:25 arriving at B22 and departing from A20. Last time I did this it was a mess, and was wondering if there's any tricks to avoid security and hopefully be able to grab a bite in the lounge. We are flying in J. Thanks!
Aug 29, 2019, 7:19 am
#5484
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B22 will deplane into the concourse clean, go thru passport and when you come down the section to B, then the tunnel of horror to A before the B immigration desks. Can be done in 15-20 minutes.
Aug 29, 2019, 7:42 am
#5485
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Is it the passport control desk on the departure level? Since I’ve successfully avoided FRA for a long time I didn’t know if they made it two-ways. It used to be for Schengen to non-Schengen passengers only.
Aug 29, 2019, 7:55 am
#5486
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So I won't have to go through security at all if I'm arriving clean? That is a pleasant surprise.
Aug 29, 2019, 9:15 am
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The only way to not reclear security would be to use the B to Z intra-terminal ( bus ) shuttle, which does not run all the time, and then clear passport control at Z gates.
Aug 29, 2019, 10:10 am
#5488
Join Date: Feb 2010
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I have a 3hour stopover in FRA coming up very soon and flying on a coach ticket. I have priority pass and an AMEX gold that I have been on the fence for a while now about upgrading to platinum. My concerns for my layover is that I have a nice place to relax with a shower. Are there decent enough PP lounges with a shower in FRA or is is worth upgrading my AMEX card to platinum to have access to the Lufthansa business lounge? Thanks in advance for your help! Also as an FYI, I will be in terminal 1.
Aug 29, 2019, 10:31 am
#5489
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Location: AGH
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besides the Luxx Lounge, all PP lounges are in T2. The Luxx Lounge has showers... but you need to pay extra for using the showers and is located land-side, so you need to re-clear security:
https://www.prioritypass.com/en/loun...ra3-luxxlounge
All lounges air-side in T1 are LH lounges (and the AC lounge...)
https://www.prioritypass.com/en/loun...ra3-luxxlounge
All lounges air-side in T1 are LH lounges (and the AC lounge...)
Aug 29, 2019, 11:41 am
#5490
Join Date: Feb 2010
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Thanks for your response! Is it worth it to transfer to T2 air-side with 3 hour stopover and use a different lounge. I have heard the luxx lounge is pretty bad.