Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII
(Post 14567129)
I am now going to Europe (twice over the next 2 months) via FRA on AC business class (I am Star Alliance Gold member, as well). I wonder if the above entry was an unintentional mistake, or if the criteria for entry into the welcome lounge have changed (since this thread was started, and when I asked the same question) so that even non-codeshared business class passengers on Star Alliance carriers flying TATL can gain access?
http://www.lufthansa.com/de/en/Loung...%20information Passengers of United Airlines (First and Business Class and Global Services cardholders) and Continental Airlines (Business Class) are entitled to use the Welcome Lounge on landing at Frankfurt. |
Is the Welcome Lounge located outside the B baggage pickup area (after you walk out past the red / green customs exit and enter the public meeting area)?
I will be arriving on LH491 in F from SEA and meeting my wife who will already have been in Frankfurt for several days. We are picking up a rental car at the airport and leaving on vacation. If I want to have a shower at the Welcome Lounge before we go, will I have to re-enter the baggage area to enter the lounge? Would my wife be allowed to wait in the lounge while I have my shower? (She obviously would not have a ticket for travel that day) |
Originally Posted by quickcanuck
(Post 14619778)
I will be arriving on LH491 in F from SEA and meeting my wife who will already have been in Frankfurt for several days. We are picking up a rental car at the airport and leaving on vacation. If I want to have a shower at the Welcome Lounge before we go, will I have to re-enter the baggage area to enter the lounge? Would my wife be allowed to wait in the lounge while I have my shower? (She obviously would not have a ticket for travel that day)
Your guest must have a valid, same-day boarding pass, so unfortunately your wife will not be eligible. |
[QUOTE=NewbieRunner;14619833]The Welcome Lounge is after customs in the public area as you see on this map.
--> actually I donīt see this from the map. You need to have a very good working knowledge of FRA to work out where the lounge really is from this. Does anyone know of a map which shows the locations of lounges and their relation to security and passport controls (i.e. are the lounges in Schengen or non-Schengen?) Specifically Iīd like to know which lounge to use when arriving in C from Asia and connecting in B to a Schengen destination. AFAIK the only options are going into non-Schengen B (via Passport control, returning via Passport control + additional security check) or walking about 2 miles to A and back. The welcome lounge doesnīt help because itīs only open in the morning. Any suggestions? |
Originally Posted by izjwv30s
(Post 14620249)
Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
(Post 14619833)
The Welcome Lounge is after customs in the public area as you see on this map.
http://www.lufthansa.com/mediapool/p...ap%20of%20term There just isn't a very good map of FRA unfortunately... :( Does anyone know of a map which shows the locations of lounges and their relation to security and passport controls (i.e. are the lounges in Schengen or non-Schengen?) Specifically Iīd like to know which lounge to use when arriving in C from Asia and connecting in B to a Schengen destination. AFAIK the only options are going into non-Schengen B (via Passport control, returning via Passport control + additional security check) or walking about 2 miles to A and back. The welcome lounge doesnīt help because itīs only open in the morning. Any suggestions? |
Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
(Post 14620358)
Try this one instead.
http://www.lufthansa.com/mediapool/p...ap%20of%20term There just isn't a very good map of FRA unfortunately... :(
Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
(Post 14620358)
If arriving in C and going to a B non-Schengen lounge you only need to go through security and not passport control. After leaving the lounge you'll have to go through passport control.
Or have I missed a short-cut from C-Arrivals to B-non-Schengen? |
Does anyone know if the same UA access holds true for the SWISS Arrivals lounge in Zurich?
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Originally Posted by bwicoplat
(Post 14620503)
Does anyone know if the same UA access holds true for the SWISS Arrivals lounge in Zurich?
http://www.swiss.com/web/EN/services...zurich_lounges It looks like you have to arrive on LX/LH F or C, or hold status with M&M to access the SWISS Arrivals Lounge. |
Originally Posted by izjwv30s
(Post 14620495)
please tell me how? My experience of arriving in C (and just following the signs) is that there is a passport control on leaving C (into the public area - where the welcome lounge is located, if only it were open). Then to enter B there is a security control to pass before the Schengen gates (B1-19). Now I can go to the A lounges (no security or passports but long walk 2x through that tunnel ) or through passports to the non-Schengen lounge; in that case, way back to the gate is through Passports, customs and security.
Or have I missed a short-cut from C-Arrivals to B-non-Schengen? http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2446/...240dbc2aac.jpg http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3604/...aaa55699e1.jpg This is looking back towards the C gates from the passage linking C and B. You can just about see where passport control is (not visible but to the far left of the photo) by the German eagle crest. Follow the signs for B20-62 which should take you through security check, passed escalators to the SkyLine train platform and eventually to the central area of Concourse B. Don't follow the signs for A1-42, B1-19, C1 if you want to go to the B lounges as they are all Schengen gates. It is some time since I followed this route last but it must be still possible to go from C gates to non-Schengen B gates (and B lounges) as there are pax without Schengen visas who need to connect between C and non-Schengen B gates without going through passport control. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2628/...251eabb5ef.jpg Signs for A1-42, B1-19, C1 and D21-44, E21-26 point to the SkyLine train platform. There is a separate escalator for A51-65 Schengen gates via the SkyLine train. |
Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
(Post 14619833)
The Welcome Lounge is after customs in the public area as you see on this map.
Your guest must have a valid, same-day boarding pass, so unfortunately your wife will not be eligible. We need to go from there to Terminal 2 car rental area. From the map it looks like the quickest way would be to pick up the shuttle bus, which appears to stop close to the Welcome Lounge? |
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Originally Posted by quickcanuck
(Post 14624989)
Thanks, that's helpful, although the idea of her waiting outside while I shower is a bit disconcerting, but them's the rules, I guess.
http://www.frankfurt-airport.com/con...segafredo.html We need to go from there to Terminal 2 car rental area. From the map it looks like the quickest way would be to pick up the shuttle bus, which appears to stop close to the Welcome Lounge? http://www.frankfurt-airport.com/con..._services.html |
Originally Posted by NewbieRunner
(Post 14621479)
It's hardly a shortcut but at the end of the moving walkways go down the escalator and don't go through passport control on your right.
btw. Miles & more [so-called] service couldnīt/wouldnīt answer this question and told me I should call Frankfurt airport....not my idea of service |
Originally Posted by izjwv30s
(Post 14625856)
thanks NewbieRunner! Next time Iīll try this.
btw. Miles & more [so-called] service couldnīt/wouldnīt answer this question and told me I should call Frankfurt airport....not my idea of service |
Is FRA the most confusing airport or am I imagining it? I am flying UA to FRA in F class, have about 3.5 hours before connecting flight to ABV on LH in C class. Can I use the welcome lounge? If not, which lounge should I use? Can I use the first class lounges if ARRIVING in F class but departing in C class? First time going through FRA, seems quite confusing
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Originally Posted by DCAfricaFlyer
(Post 14970769)
Is FRA the most confusing airport or am I imagining it? I am flying UA to FRA in F class, have about 3.5 hours before connecting flight to ABV on LH in C class. Can I use the welcome lounge? If not, which lounge should I use?
http://www.lufthansa.com/de/en/Loung...%20information Can I use the first class lounges if ARRIVING in F class but departing in C class? First time going through FRA, seems quite confusing Welcome to FT, DCAfricaFlyer ! |
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