The LOT Kafeteria 2018-23 (retired)
Feb 14, 2023, 11:20 pm
#1921
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: BOM-SIN-EWR
Programs: UA*G (1K again), Sixt Plat, *was*: SQ QPP01 & SK EBS/EBG, LH SEN, AA EXP, 9wPlat
Posts: 8,606
OMG - the *whole wing* is covered in tape!!!
Feb 15, 2023, 1:24 am
#1922
Join Date: Jun 2021
Programs: BAEC Gold
Posts: 539
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/id/49273626
They got their act together after that. Best if LOT were to start taking the small things seriously too.
Feb 15, 2023, 2:55 am
#1923
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: WAW ✈ LHR ✈ GLA
Programs: BA GfL/GGL/CCR, HH Diamond, IHG Diamond Ambassador
Posts: 2,502
I'm not sure why LOT bothers covering missing paint with tape... United doesn't care and flies planes with missing paint too.
Feb 15, 2023, 3:18 am
#1924
Moderator: Lufthansa Miles & More, India based airlines, India, External Miles & Points Resources
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: MUC
Programs: LH SEN
Posts: 48,187
Common issue on many B787:
https://www.reuters.com/business/aer...ng-2022-11-14/
https://www.reuters.com/business/aer...ng-2022-11-14/
Until now, Boeing's interim fix has involved repeated use of "speed tape" over affected areas. That led some passengers to post photos online of 787 wings with tape and raise concerns.
"Even though the use of speed tape has no effect on the safety of the airplane, the public could perceive an unsafe condition when seeing tape on the wing surfaces," Boeing told the FAA in a regulatory filing made public on Monday.
"Even though the use of speed tape has no effect on the safety of the airplane, the public could perceive an unsafe condition when seeing tape on the wing surfaces," Boeing told the FAA in a regulatory filing made public on Monday.
Feb 15, 2023, 3:19 am
#1925
Join Date: Feb 2023
Location: WAW
Posts: 7
Speedtape is the temporary solution proposed by Boeing. While United choses to not do it, possibly to avoid janky look which might get the pax to chose Delta/AA, LO has little to none competition on direct LH routes.
Also, I don’t suppose anyone at LOT/LOTAMS would opt for acting against Boeing guidelines.
Also, I don’t suppose anyone at LOT/LOTAMS would opt for acting against Boeing guidelines.
Feb 15, 2023, 8:07 am
#1926
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 11,590
Basia has done so well from their Boeing's. Great success!
Maybe it can be added to the lawsuits "lost revenue due to social media speed tape shaming".
Maybe it can be added to the lawsuits "lost revenue due to social media speed tape shaming".
Feb 15, 2023, 9:11 am
#1927
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: YYZ
Posts: 1,675
Feb 20, 2023, 7:10 am
#1928
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 11,590
I saw unformed LOT crew in an outstation lounge recently (Capt and FO), duty C ticket. I've never seen it before in Europe, on any airline. I've especially never heard about it in WAW.
Feb 20, 2023, 7:38 am
#1929
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: HAG
Programs: Der 5* FTL
Posts: 8,069
I occasionally see uniformed crew using a lounge at an outstation as a briefing/waiting room. Obviously that requires the lounge to be not busy.
Duty C ticket, well, I thought it would have gone by now, but LOT does live in the past in some regards.
Duty C ticket, well, I thought it would have gone by now, but LOT does live in the past in some regards.
Feb 20, 2023, 9:26 am
#1930
Moderator: Lufthansa Miles & More, India based airlines, India, External Miles & Points Resources
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: MUC
Programs: LH SEN
Posts: 48,187
Most if not all airlines transport their deadheading flight crew in business class. As such they can go into the lounge since they are normal business passengers. Nothing wrong with that?
Feb 20, 2023, 9:47 am
#1931
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: HAG
Programs: Der 5* FTL
Posts: 8,069
I see deadheading flight crew in Y just as much as I see them in C across Europe.
Maybe the difference is whether they are on commute or deadheading within roster.
Maybe the difference is whether they are on commute or deadheading within roster.
Feb 20, 2023, 10:10 am
#1932
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Feb 21, 2023, 12:20 pm
#1933
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: YYZ
Posts: 1,675
If that were the case, airline lounges would be full of flight crews. But deadheading flight crews are NOT "normal business passengers". They are deadheading crew. No lounge access for them. In fact, many (or perhaps most?) airlines even forbid their flight crews from being "guested" into one of their lounges.
Feb 21, 2023, 12:28 pm
#1934
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Did they start to charge SEN/HON for Exit row? It shows as free, but it doesn't save...only the non-exit saves in the PNR.
Feb 21, 2023, 12:29 pm
#1935
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It is all stipulated in their collective labour agreements, which probably most frequently translates to business class for flight crew and economy for cabin crew when deadheading (not commuting!).
If that were the case, airline lounges would be full of flight crews. But deadheading flight crews are NOT "normal business passengers". They are deadheading crew. No lounge access for them. In fact, many (or perhaps most?) airlines even forbid their flight crews from being "guested" into one of their lounges.
If that were the case, airline lounges would be full of flight crews. But deadheading flight crews are NOT "normal business passengers". They are deadheading crew. No lounge access for them. In fact, many (or perhaps most?) airlines even forbid their flight crews from being "guested" into one of their lounges.