cas_de

I just checked all the changes to the mileage earnings table. TK is the only one with the significant decrease of status miles being awarded across all booking classes. The changes to all other airlines just reflect the adjustments of the earning ratios for the cheaper economy fare classes as communicated by M&M for LH recently.

N1003U

A bit of pre-emptive coercion to discourage customers from transferring bookings from LH to TK?
or,
A bit of pre-emptive coercion to encourage customers transfer not only their bookings but also their FFP from LH to TK?

cas_de

N1003U since I know that you speak German, let me give you my personal interpretation of your post:

Es gibt Tage an denen verliert man und es gibt Tage da gewinnen andere.

N1003U

Genau.

Edit: Translation: Some days you lose, and some days the other guy wins.
(Google translate made a mess of this quote when I tried it)

airoli

This change is both silly and sad. But it very much captures the spirit prevalent at M&M in the last few years.

Given that I've booked two Business Class TK trips for 2014 with an eye on requalification, it provides for the final nail in the coffin of my SEN-hood. I will likely be heading for greener pastures elsewhere.

Sorry LH, not even your super-duper program tenure stars, of which I'll have some, will manage to retain me. Hard to believe with all the cool benefits those stars bring, huh?

LH4116

Yes, but given the fact that a K fare on TK costs much less than a Punishment fare on Lufthansa I would say the generous 200% earnings would still make up for lack of executive bonus, which is only fractional anyway on these longer routes. For instance ARN-IST-BKK return in K class sells for just over €1500, which also has some flexibility included. As opposed to the punishable P that are almost impossible to rebook.

ARN-IST earns 1500 x2 (ironically cheap Y earns roughly the same to M&S on that route)
IST-BKK earns 9338 x2

So in total you're looking at 21676 miles. 5 trips should be enough to reach Senator.

Crampedin13A

I'm glad my flying pattern has changed to the point where I can just concentrate on OW. No flying to the U.S. and domestic on AC is more than manageable with Priority Pass lounge access. 0 Status and Award miles on M+M in 2013 so far. I'll miss LX (but I'm SEN till 2015 so I'll still fly some cheap LX P fares TATL if they come up in flash sales) and going through LHR all the time are the only 2 drawbacks. LH and AC are just the most gutted FFP's out there.

Maluku_Flyer

There's always that pesky law of unintended consequences.

Tyrolean

Same here. Requalified for my QF-Plat on the way to get Partner Gold. Will hit Life-Gold in 2014. 2013: 2500 Miles with LH. Domestic Travel goes to AB. Longhaul to BA/QF/EK.

My original plan was to try requalification with LH in 2014. I had some Eco Longhauls upgraded with Vouchers. Still my waitlist does not clear and revenue management tells me that they do not want to give me a "free" upgrade even if only 4 seats in C are booked!

I was thinking about two longhauls with TK and a few with LH to drive me over the 100k Miles - together with a lot of domestic and euro flights.

What is the situation now:
- Eco-Longhaul on LH cut into half (100% to 50%/25%)
- Eco-Shorthaul quartered (500% to 125%)
- Business on LX cut (2000 Miles to 750 Miles)
- TK quartered
- Prices for C/D/J fares out of any sense

So no chance to get near the 100k.

What now:
- Earn on Oneworld to keep Emerald and hit Life-Sapphire.
- Maybe change *A Program or give LH an other chance in 2015 when Franz is flying his oneway ticket with Virgin Galactic.

May LH put the Status stars into a part of the body where the sun does not shine...

VictorXray

Amen!

planestupid

Whatever happened to the three months' notice that Miles&More agreed to settle the Eggersdorfer case?

oliver2002

http://www.handelsblatt.com/unterneh...e/9121976.html

Handelsblatt picked up the story today...

FelixB

http://biztravel.fvw.de/turkish-airl...93/125837/4070

And they're going to end their codeshare agreement...

TRAVELSIG

So after years of communication on the unification of STAR Alliance codeshare agreements are being terminated? That doesn't sound very good.

outgoing

It looks like the dusk over *Alliance