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Old May 11, 2015, 12:20 am
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Will the A350 fleet ex-MUC have First class cabin?
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Old Jan 8, 2016, 4:26 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
The A359 delivery schedule:
Interesting, thanks.

First A350 route scheduled for AUH?
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Old Jan 15, 2016, 11:39 am
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It would be great if LH could operate a 747-8 to DEN or YVZ til A350 arrives .
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Old Feb 6, 2017, 2:40 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
Fleet structure is interesting, A330 replace 343, not A359:


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Even though it was announced way back when that the 779 will replace the 744s, the blosphere lit up this week with shock and horror that the 779 will not feature a F cabin
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Old Feb 6, 2017, 2:46 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
Even though it was announced way back when that the 779 will replace the 744s, the blosphere lit up this week with shock and horror that the 779 will not feature a F cabin
the spiral is turning, overtime you get Y+ where C was, and C where F was...
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Old Feb 6, 2017, 2:49 am
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Originally Posted by whiskey_sk
the spiral is turning, overtime you get Y+ where C was, and C where F was...
But LH new C is nowhere close to what LH F is/was...

Just sample those C dishes to/from India - an example of what Y meals used to be - and some of the C meals are not even edible!
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Old Feb 6, 2017, 4:25 am
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Originally Posted by SuperFlyBoy
But LH new C is nowhere close to what LH F is/was...

Just sample those C dishes to/from India - an example of what Y meals used to be - and some of the C meals are not even edible!
I said "over time", of course today is nowhere even near. And of course, LH is not exactly a trendsetter in the are of introducing new hardware...
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Old Feb 6, 2017, 4:38 am
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I said before someplace, but why not repeat it...

When I started flying longhaul C in 2000, most airlines had a lie flat seat upfront with decent catering, a recliner class in the middle with OK catering and a coach class with ugly catering.

15 years on the F/C/Y of 2000 has replaced with C/E/Y, with the only difference that the C cabin remains huge (48-86 seats) and E is rather small.

I mentioned the above to the head of LH sales for Germany last week at the A359 party and it took him a while to understand but then he laughed and said I was right.

In the end the product follows the market demand...
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Old Feb 7, 2017, 11:05 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002

In the end the product follows the market demand...
Which is the reason why LX maintains F on their new 777's (because there is paid demand ex ZRH) and why we will still see LH F on destinations such as LAX and SFO.
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Old Mar 27, 2017, 7:33 pm
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Munich will become 100% A350 when all frames are delivered. Source: Nico Buchholz
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 9:26 am
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Originally Posted by 346fetish
Munich will become 100% A350 when all frames are delivered. Source: Nico Buchholz
I think MUC in the coming three to five years will be only C/Y+/Y and will lose F availability on all frames.
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 11:05 am
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Well, Munich currently has 16-17 A346, 8 A330 and two A350. Currently 15 A359 are earmarked for Lufthansa. Just 15-20 A350 in Munich would mean a severe cut in operation...?
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 11:16 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
Well, Munich currently has 16-17 A346, 8 A330 and two A350. Currently 15 A359 are earmarked for Lufthansa. Just 15-20 A350 in Munich would mean a severe cut in operation...?
I see the LH 748s showing up in Muc in the near future..... ....sense the sarcasm yet?
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 11:43 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
Well, Munich currently has 16-17 A346, 8 A330 and two A350. Currently 15 A359 are earmarked for Lufthansa. Just 15-20 A350 in Munich would mean a severe cut in operation...?
Lufthansa has 25 359s on order. Note the LH 359 has 4 more total seats than the current LH 346... I don't see any severe cut in operation.
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Old Mar 28, 2017, 12:44 pm
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If you see the graphic in post #6 , they initially replaced A346 with A359 in LH alone, but unless OS gets some new aircraft (which they absolutely need as the B763 and B772 will nearly fall apart post 2022) from someplace else, some of the A350 need to go there. Also depriving MUC of smaller more nimble A330 would mean that they could not serve some markets.

Also the entire fleet discussion is more of a political sabre rattling from LH towards the pilots....
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