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Old Jul 22, 2012, 2:11 pm
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Originally Posted by supermasterphil
The bad news are that it is very close to the curefew, so likely will not go out a couple of nights of the year.
I asssume exceptions apply to the curfew due to technical or weather reasons as long as it's not every night 10 + flights
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Old Jul 24, 2012, 12:27 pm
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So are these changes (downgrading- daily to 5x weekly) because of fleet upgrades to new F/C/Y?
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Old Jul 24, 2012, 12:38 pm
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Originally Posted by chff
So are these changes (downgrading- daily to 5x weekly) because of fleet upgrades to new F/C/Y?
Seasonal adjustment between Dec and Feb.
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Old Jul 24, 2012, 3:39 pm
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Originally Posted by LXA350
I asssume exceptions apply to the curfew due to technical or weather reasons as long as it's not every night 10 + flights
They are currently discussing which exceptions could be made in the future but I believe that right now no exceptions are made at all. Meaning, that if they taxi too slow or have to queue up, they might be sent back to overnight in Frankfurt.
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Old Jul 29, 2012, 9:11 am
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Originally Posted by supermasterphil
They are currently discussing which exceptions could be made in the future but I believe that right now no exceptions are made at all. Meaning, that if they taxi too slow or have to queue up, they might be sent back to overnight in Frankfurt.
I always thought the swiss authorities are the worst with the night ban at ZRH however most departure delays and arrival delays are granted exceptional take off / landing rights especially if weather is the main reason, looks like FRA is really overdoing it. The population and polititians who vote for such scenarios including the vote against a 3rd runway at MUC don't understand that in the longer run they hurt their own economy and put at risk the creation of new jobs and keeping current jobs.
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Old Jul 29, 2012, 12:32 pm
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Originally Posted by LXA350
I always thought the swiss authorities are the worst with the night ban at ZRH however most departure delays and arrival delays are granted exceptional take off / landing rights especially if weather is the main reason, looks like FRA is really overdoing it. The population and polititians who vote for such scenarios including the vote against a 3rd runway at MUC don't understand that in the longer run they hurt their own economy and put at risk the creation of new jobs and keeping current jobs.
Spot on. Flight Global actually focused on the topic of hub capacity constraints in the EU earlier this week. Article here
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Old Jul 30, 2012, 4:50 am
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CGK cancellation now moved forward to 15 OCT
According to http://airlineroute.net/2012/07/30/l...w12cxldupdate/

Lufthansa has moved forward planned service cancellation on Munich – Singapore – Jakarta route, where the Star Alliance member is ending the 5 weekly service from 15OCT12, instead of 28OCT12. Airbus A340-300 currently operates this route. This also marks the end of Lufthansa’s service in Indonesia, where it operated since late-1960s.

Schedule until 13OCT12:

LH790 MUC2140 – 1600+1SIN1710+1 – 1805+1CGK 343 x13
LH791 CGK1905 – 2200SIN2315 – 0600+1MUC 343 x24
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Old Jul 30, 2012, 8:15 am
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Per the latest schedules,
Frankfurt – Washington Dulles Boeing 747-8I continues operation, offering 5 weekly service
LH418 FRA1235 – 1525IAD 744 23
LH418 FRA1235 – 1525IAD 74H x23

LH419 IAD1740 – 0740+1FRA 744 23
LH419 IAD1740 – 0740+1FRA 74H x23

Why is a 744 scheduled for Tue-Wed? Just my crappy luck, I am flying on Wednesday from IAD->FRA and back.
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Old Jul 30, 2012, 8:24 am
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The 748i technical dispatch reliability is supposed to be 98.5% but probably will be around 96% in the beginning and require a few checks on the new aircraft. Hence you will see not all routes operate with the 748 all the time.
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Old Aug 24, 2012, 5:46 am
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LH W12 Operation changes (mostly reductions)
Airlineroute just posted the W12 LH changes. Amazing amount of reductions. Time to check those bookings...
Change W11 vs W12 from FRA:

Frankfurt – Amsterdam Service reduces from 7 to 6 daily
Frankfurt – Bergen Service reduces from 3 to 2 daily
Frankfurt – Brussels Service reduces from 10 to 8 daily
Frankfurt – Bucharest Service reduces from 3 to 2 daily
Frankfurt – Copenhagen Service reduces from 5 to 4 daily
Frankfurt – Florence Service reduces from 6 to 5 daily
Frankfurt – Geneva Service reduces from 9 to 8 daily
Frankfurt – Helsinki Service reduces from 4 to 3 daily
Frankfurt – Madrid Service reduces from 5 to 4 daily
Frankfurt – Milan Malpensa Service reduces from 5 to 4 daily
Frankfurt – Moscow Domodedovo Service reduces from 4 to 3 daily
Frankfurt – Nice Service reduces from 4 to 3 daily
Frankfurt – Palma Mallorca Service cancelled in Winter season
Frankfurt – Paris CDG Service reduces from 10 to 8 daily
Frankfurt – Porto Service reduces from 3 to 2 daily
Frankfurt – Poznan Service reduces from 1 daily to 6 weekly
Frankfurt – Rome Service reduces from 6 to 5 daily
Frankfurt – Sofia A319 operates 1 daily (W11 was 2 daily E190
OPO down to 2 daily

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Old Aug 24, 2012, 6:14 pm
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As from the winter schedule, LH has decided there will no longer be any scheduled flights after 2215 due to the German federal courts upholding the strict night curfew.

So it seems the HKG flight will be the last scheduled flight of the day with its new time slot. Anyone knows what other flights depart at that time too?
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Old Aug 25, 2012, 6:10 am
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Originally Posted by GBM.flights
Airlineroute just posted the W12 LH changes. Amazing amount of reductions. Time to check those bookings...
Change W11 vs W12 from FRA:



OPO down to 2 daily

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What is Lufthansa going to do with all the redundant capacity they are building up with all these flight reductions this winter??
Are they phasing out certain plane types ?? or older gass guzzling planes??
Do they park these planes for better times??
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Old Aug 25, 2012, 9:02 am
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More changes according to http://airlineroute.net/2012/08/24/lh-gig-w12update2/

Lufthansa from 28OCT12 is changing operational schedule on Frankfurt – Rio de Janeiro. The daily flight will now depart Frankfurt at night time. Departure from Rio de Janeiro remains unchanged at night-time.

Schedule:

LH500 FRA2200 – 0720+1GIG 343 5
LH500 FRA2210 – 0730+1GIG 343 246
LH500 FRA2215 – 0735+1GIG 343 137

LH501 GIG2130 – 1230+1FRA 343 D

Also from 28OCT12, Lufthansa increases service from 6 weekly to daily. However, from 03JAN13 to 16FEB13, service operates 5 weekly (Day x13 from FRA, Day x24 from GIG)
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Old Aug 26, 2012, 7:16 am
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The winter schedule ex-Berlin seems to be taking quite a beating.
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Old Aug 27, 2012, 1:11 am
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Originally Posted by Terbang
What is Lufthansa going to do with all the redundant capacity they are building up with all these flight reductions this winter??
Are they phasing out certain plane types ?? or older gass guzzling planes??
Do they park these planes for better times??
Many are going for a refit to new business, the 744 fleet will be dramatically cut to 21 this winter, ie 4-6 aircraft will leave (to be scrapped) in the next few months.
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