Determining LH Y/E/C/F loads? [the help me guesstimate loads thread]
Mar 7, 2017, 11:54 am
#1321
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Thanks very much! Looks like ~25% open 2 weeks out...here's hoping!
C looks rather full....
Code:
>dolh572/23mar
DOLH572/23MAR
*1A PLANNED FLIGHT INFO* LH 572 16 TH 23MAR17
APT ARR DY DEP DY CLASS/MEAL EQP GRND EFT TTL
FRA 2200 TH FAJCDZPGENY/M 74H 10:30
BMUHQVWSTLK/M
JNB 0930 FR 10:30
COMMENTS-
1.FRA JNB - DEPARTS TERMINAL 1
2.FRA JNB - ARRIVES TERMINAL A
3.FRA JNB - ET/ ELECTRONIC TKT CANDIDATE
4.FRA JNB - CHK TIMATIC ON ZA GOVT RQMNT
5.FRA JNB - FOR PAX UNDER 18YRS.
6.FRA JNB - PLS INSERT PSGR CTC ALSO FOR RETURN FLIGHT
7.FRA JNB - FULLY FLAT BED IN BUSINESS CLASS. SEE WWW.LH.COM
8.FRA JNB - F8C80E32M244
9.FRA JNB - CO2/PAX* 628.72 KG ECO, 1,257.43 KG PRE
(*):SOURCE:ICAO CARBON EMISSIONS CALCULATOR
CONFIGURATION-
74H F 8 C 80 E 32 M 244
>ad23marfrajnb/alh572
AD23MARFRAJNB/ALH572
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AD ** JNB JOHANNESBURG.ZA 16 TH 23MAR 0000
1 LH 572 F4 AL J9 C9 D9 ZL G9 /FRA 1 JNB A 2200 0930+1E0/74H 10:30
E9 N9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9
>sm/1/f/v
SM LH 0572/F/23MARFRAJNB/V
SM LH 0572 F 23MAR FRAJNB 74H
A D G K
F 1 . . 1 F
2 . C 2
3 . + + + 3
A D G K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
>sm/1/c/v
SM LH 0572/C/23MARFRAJNB/V
SM LH 0572 C 23MAR FRAJNB 74H
A C D G H K
C 4 C I . + + C 4 C
5 + + . + + + 5
6 + + . + + + 6
7 + + . + + + 7
8 + . . H U U 8
9 . . . . . . 9
10 < C I . . I C > 10
11 < . . . . . . > 11
A C D G H K
A C H K
C 81 UP + / / + UP 81 C
82 + + / / 82
A C H K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
)>m
SM LH 0572/C/23MARFRAJNB/V
83 + + + + 83
84 + + + + 84
85 + + + + 85
86 + + + + 86
87 . + + + 87
88 UP . + + . UP 88
A C H K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
>sm/1/g/v
SM LH 0572/G/23MARFRAJNB/V
SM LH 0572 G 23MAR FRAJNB 74H
A B C D E F G H J K
E 21 <E / / / / E> 21 E
22 < C I I C > 22
23 < + + + + . . + + > 23
24 < + + + . . H + + > 24
25 < + + + . . H + + > 25
A B C D E F G H J K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
>sm/1/y/v
SM LH 0572/Y/23MARFRAJNB/V
SM LH 0572 Y 23MAR FRAJNB 74H
A B C D E F G H J K
M 16 < / / / / / / > 16 M
18 < + + / / / / / / / / > 18
19 < / / / / / / / / / / > 19
20 < / / / / / / / / / / > 20
27 + L + + L L L + + + 27
28 + . + . . . H + . + 28
29 . . . + . . H . . . 29
30 . . . . . . + + . . 30
31 . . . + + . . . . . 31
32 . . . . . . . . . . 32
33 . . . . . . 33
34 B C / / C / / C / / C B 34
35 / / / / / / / / / / 35
A B C D E F G H J K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
)>m
SM LH 0572/Y/23MARFRAJNB/V
36 / / / / / / / / / / 36
37 / / / / / / / / / / 37
38 / / / / / / / / / / 38
39 . . . . . . . . . . 39
40 . . . . . . . . . . 40
41 . . . . . . . . . . 41
42 . . . . . . . . . . 42
43 . . . . . . . . . . 43
44 . . . . . . . . . . 44
45 + + . . . . + + 45
46 + + . . . H + + 46
47 + + . . . H + + 47
48 . . . . 48
49 . . . . 49
A B C D E F G H J K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
>m
Mar 11, 2017, 7:15 am
#1323
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Does anyone know what the loads are like in Y and Business from FRA to IAH on 13 April, and back on 19 Apr?
Thanks
Thanks
Mar 11, 2017, 3:44 pm
#1324
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F6 A4 J9 C9 D9 Z9 P0 G9 E7 N1 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9
LH 441 IAH 04/19/17 3:50 PM FRA 04/20/17 8:35 AM 388 Daily
F5 A2 J9 C9 D9 Z9 P0 G9 E9 N9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9
Mar 11, 2017, 4:22 pm
#1325
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Hi all, 6'6 guy here who just learned about this MyOffer plan via Lufthansa. I'm very new to this bidding system so hopefully someone can help out. 
I am flying from Munich to Boston on March 21st, Flight LH424 at 15:35 -- what are my chances of scoring an upgrade for Premium Economy so I can have a bit more leg room? I placed a bid for $200 but unsure if that's sufficient or not.
I really appreciate your help! Many thanks.
I am flying from Munich to Boston on March 21st, Flight LH424 at 15:35 -- what are my chances of scoring an upgrade for Premium Economy so I can have a bit more leg room? I placed a bid for $200 but unsure if that's sufficient or not.
I really appreciate your help! Many thanks.
Mar 13, 2017, 2:53 am
#1327
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Posts: 888
mar19 f3 a3 j2 c1 d0 z0 p0 g4 e2 n0 y9 b9 m9 u8 h5 q3 v0 w0 s0 t0 l0 k0
mar20 f4 a4 j1 c1 d1 z0 p0 g2 e0 n0 y9 b9 m9 u8 h6 q5 v2 w2 s0 t0 l0 k0
mar21 f7 a7 j6 c5 d4 z2 p0 g3 e1 n0 y9 b9 m9 u9 h9 q9 v9 w9 s0 t0 l0 k0
Mar 15, 2017, 2:17 am
#1329
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C & E massively oversold.
Code:
>ad19marfrahkg/alh796
AD19MARFRAHKG/ALH796
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AD ** HKG HONG KONG.HK 4 SU 19MAR 0000
1 LH 796 FL AL JL CL DL ZL G1 /FRA 1 HKG 1 2215 1620+1E0/388 IR 11:05
EL NL Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S2
>sm/1/f/v
SM LH 0796/F/19MARFRAHKG/V
SM LH 0796 F 19MAR FRAHKG 388
A D G K
F 1 UP + + . + UP 1 F
2 UP + + . + UP 2
A D G K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
>sm/1/c/v
SEAT MAP NOT AVAILABLE FOR REQUESTED ZONE, SEAT MAY BE REQ'D
>sm/1/e/v
SM LH 0796/E/19MARFRAHKG/V
SM LH 0796 E 19MAR FRAHKG 388
A C D E F G H K
E 50 C + + C 50 E
51 + + + + 51
52 + + + + + + + + 52
53 + + + . + + + + 53
54 + + + + . + + + 54
55 + + + . + + + + 55
56 + + + . . + + + 56
57 U + + + 57
A C D E F G H K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
>sm/1/y/v
SM LH 0796/Y/19MARFRAHKG/V
SM LH 0796 Y 19MAR FRAHKG 388
A B C D E F G H J K
M 60 / / / / / / 60 M
61 < / / / / / / + / / / > 61
62 < / / / / / / / / / / > 62
63 < / / / / / / / / / / > 63
64 < / / / / / / / / / / > 64
65 < . . + + + . + + . + > 65
66 < . . + + . . + + . . > 66
67 < + + + + . . H + . + > 67
68 < . + + + . . H + . . > 68
69 < . + + . . . H + + + > 69
70 < + + + . . . H + + + > 70
71 < . + + . . . + + + + > 71
72 < . + + . . . + + . . > 72
A B C D E F G H J K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
)>m
SM LH 0796/Y/19MARFRAHKG/V
73 < . + + . . . . + . . > 73
74 < . + + + . . > 74
75 <E + + + + E> 75
76 <E + + + C I I C + + + E> 76
77 < . . + . . . + + . . > 77
78 < . . . . . . . + . . > 78
79 < . . . . . . . + . + > 79
80 . . . . . . H . . . 80
81 + + + + . . H + . . 81
82 . + + . . . H . + + 82
83 + + . . . . H . + + 83
84 / / / / / / / / / / 84
85 / / / / / / / / / / 85
86 / / / / / / / / / / 86
87 / / / / / / / / / / 87
A B C D E F G H J K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
)>m
SM LH 0796/Y/19MARFRAHKG/V
88 B C / / C / / C / / C B 88
89 + . . . . . . . . . 89
90 . . . . . . . . . . 90
91 . . . . . . . . . . 91
92 . . . . . . . . . . 92
93 . . . . . . . . . . 93
94 . . . . . . . . . . 94
A B C D E F G H J K
A C D E F G H K
M 95 UPE + + / / / + + / EUP 95 M
96 / / / / / / / / 96
97 + + + + + + + + 97
98 + + + . . + + + 98
99 UP + + + UP 99
A C D E F G H K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
>
Mar 15, 2017, 3:28 am
#1330
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Posts: 484
C & E massively oversold.
Code:
>ad19marfrahkg/alh796
AD19MARFRAHKG/ALH796
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AD ** HKG HONG KONG.HK 4 SU 19MAR 0000
1 LH 796 FL AL JL CL DL ZL G1 /FRA 1 HKG 1 2215 1620+1E0/388 IR 11:05
EL NL Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S2
>sm/1/f/v
SM LH 0796/F/19MARFRAHKG/V
SM LH 0796 F 19MAR FRAHKG 388
A D G K
F 1 UP + + . + UP 1 F
2 UP + + . + UP 2
A D G K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
>sm/1/c/v
SEAT MAP NOT AVAILABLE FOR REQUESTED ZONE, SEAT MAY BE REQ'D
>sm/1/e/v
SM LH 0796/E/19MARFRAHKG/V
SM LH 0796 E 19MAR FRAHKG 388
A C D E F G H K
E 50 C + + C 50 E
51 + + + + 51
52 + + + + + + + + 52
53 + + + . + + + + 53
54 + + + + . + + + 54
55 + + + . + + + + 55
56 + + + . . + + + 56
57 U + + + 57
A C D E F G H K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
>sm/1/y/v
SM LH 0796/Y/19MARFRAHKG/V
SM LH 0796 Y 19MAR FRAHKG 388
A B C D E F G H J K
M 60 / / / / / / 60 M
61 < / / / / / / + / / / > 61
62 < / / / / / / / / / / > 62
63 < / / / / / / / / / / > 63
64 < / / / / / / / / / / > 64
65 < . . + + + . + + . + > 65
66 < . . + + . . + + . . > 66
67 < + + + + . . H + . + > 67
68 < . + + + . . H + . . > 68
69 < . + + . . . H + + + > 69
70 < + + + . . . H + + + > 70
71 < . + + . . . + + + + > 71
72 < . + + . . . + + . . > 72
A B C D E F G H J K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
)>m
SM LH 0796/Y/19MARFRAHKG/V
73 < . + + . . . . + . . > 73
74 < . + + + . . > 74
75 <E + + + + E> 75
76 <E + + + C I I C + + + E> 76
77 < . . + . . . + + . . > 77
78 < . . . . . . . + . . > 78
79 < . . . . . . . + . + > 79
80 . . . . . . H . . . 80
81 + + + + . . H + . . 81
82 . + + . . . H . + + 82
83 + + . . . . H . + + 83
84 / / / / / / / / / / 84
85 / / / / / / / / / / 85
86 / / / / / / / / / / 86
87 / / / / / / / / / / 87
A B C D E F G H J K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
)>m
SM LH 0796/Y/19MARFRAHKG/V
88 B C / / C / / C / / C B 88
89 + . . . . . . . . . 89
90 . . . . . . . . . . 90
91 . . . . . . . . . . 91
92 . . . . . . . . . . 92
93 . . . . . . . . . . 93
94 . . . . . . . . . . 94
A B C D E F G H J K
A C D E F G H K
M 95 UPE + + / / / + + / EUP 95 M
96 / / / / / / / / 96
97 + + + + + + + + 97
98 + + + . . + + + 98
99 UP + + + UP 99
A C D E F G H K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
>
Mar 16, 2017, 7:54 am
#1332
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Soo... which cabin is oversold in this example? C or PE? I'm booked in E on this flight... so hoping its PE.
Code:
AD30MARWASMUC/ALH415
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AD ** MUC MUNICH.DE 14 TH 30MAR 0000
1 LH 415 J4 C2 DL ZL G4 E2 NL /IAD MUC 2 2230 1245+1E0/333 8:15
Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9
>sm/1/c/v
SM LH 0415/C/30MARIADMUC/V
SM LH 0415 C 30MAR IADMUC 333
A C D G H K
C 1 + + + + + + 1 C
2 + + + + + + 2
3 + + + + + + 3
4 + + + + + + 4
5 U U + + + + 5
10 C I + I I C 10
11 + . + + + + 11
A C D G H K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
>sm/1/e/v
SM LH 0415/E/30MARIADMUC/V
SM LH 0415 E 30MAR IADMUC 333
A C D E G H K
E 15 + + C I + + + 15 E
16 + + + . + + + 16
18 + + + . + + + 18
19 + + + . H + + 19
A C D E G H K
. AVAILABLE <> WING F GEN FACI K GALLEY E EXIT C COT
+ OCCUPIED - LAST OFF H HANDICAP Q QUIET G GROUPS P PET
/ RESTRICTED B BULKHEAD V PREF.SEAT X BLOCKED L LEGROOM U UMNR
() SMOKING D DEPORTEE UP UP-DECK Z NO FILM I INFANT R REAR
Y CHARGEABLE
>
Mar 16, 2017, 9:19 am
#1333
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 22
E is PE...
another question for insiders:
this is my flight:
J4 C4 D3 Z3 P0 G3 E3 N0 Y1 B0 M0 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0
I am watching that for last few days, number of economy seats was going down, now oscilating between 1 and 0. Can I assume the flight is oversold in Y or just sold when all ECO classes are at 0, not L? or is this part of LH trade secret and weŽll never learn?
another question for insiders:
this is my flight:
J4 C4 D3 Z3 P0 G3 E3 N0 Y1 B0 M0 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0
I am watching that for last few days, number of economy seats was going down, now oscilating between 1 and 0. Can I assume the flight is oversold in Y or just sold when all ECO classes are at 0, not L? or is this part of LH trade secret and weŽll never learn?
Mar 17, 2017, 1:05 pm
#1335
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