Determining LH Y/E/C/F loads? [the help me guesstimate loads thread]

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Jun 27, 2016, 7:31 pm

#1096

SFOTerry

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NewbieRunner

Jan 10th seems like the date to choose.

Thank you very much! Sorry, I didn't ask before, but what does LH458 MUC-SFO look like on Nov 27?

Jun 30, 2016, 3:15 am

#1097

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Originally Posted by SFOTerry

Thank you very much! Sorry, I didn't ask before, but what does LH458 MUC-SFO look like on Nov 27?

LH 458 0 MUC 11/27/16 3:50 PM SFO 11/27/16 7:05 PM 346 Su,M,T,W,F,Sa
F8 A7 J9 C9 D9 Z9 P0 G9 E9 N0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L0 K0

Jun 30, 2016, 1:25 pm

#1098

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Hi,
Could anyone please check loads on LH796 on 4-Jul-16 and LH797 on 8-Jul-16, please?

Thanks in advance.

Jun 30, 2016, 2:48 pm

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Originally Posted by nafrance

Hi,
Could anyone please check loads on LH796 on 4-Jul-16 and LH797 on 8-Jul-16, please?

Thanks in advance.

LH 796 0 FRA 07/04/16 10:10 PM HKG 07/05/16 3:15 PM 388 Daily
F0 A0 J9 C9 D0 Z0 P0 G9 E9 N0 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q8 V8 W6 S2 T0 L0 K0

LH 797 0 HKG 07/08/16 11:05 PM FRA 07/09/16 5:20 AM 388 Daily
F4 A0 J9 C9 D0 Z0 P0 G9 E2 N0 Y4 B0 M0 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0

Jul 1, 2016, 6:03 am

#1100

RedRobin

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Hello everyone,
Can someone please tell me the loads for: LX1255 on Wed 06 July, 2016

What's my best strategy to "cheaply" (yeah right!) upgrade from the "Flex" fare (U class) to Business?

Is Z available, cheap?
D is more expensive, right
Miles? 15.000? what class it books in?

Best way to do it? site, app, phone, airport? thanks....

Jul 1, 2016, 6:13 am

#1101

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Only J & C available for sale:

Code:

>dolx1255/6jul
DOLX1255/6JUL                                                                   
*1A PLANNED FLIGHT INFO*              LX1255    5 WE 06JUL16                    
APT ARR   DY DEP   DY CLASS/MEAL          EQP  GRND  EFT   TTL                  
ARN          1935  WE JCDZP/M  YB/S       321         2:25                      
                      MUHGQVWSTEL/S                                             
                      K/S                                                       
ZRH 2200  WE                                                2:25                
                                                                                
COMMENTS-                                                                       
 1.ARN ZRH   - COCKPIT CREW SWISS INTERNATIONAL AIR LINES                       
 2.ARN ZRH   - CABIN CREW SWISS INTERNATIONAL AIR LINES                         
 3.ARN ZRH   - DEPARTS TERMINAL 5                                               
 4.ARN ZRH   -   9/ NON-SMOKING                                                 
 5.ARN ZRH   -  ET/ ELECTRONIC TKT CANDIDATE                                    
 6.ARN ZRH   - C1Y218                                                           
 7.ARN ZRH   -  CO2/PAX* 125.72 KG ECO, 125.72 KG PRE                           
 (*):SOURCE:ICAO CARBON EMISSIONS CALCULATOR                                    
                                                                                
CONFIGURATION-                                                                  
               321  C  41   Y 156                                               
>ad6jularnzrh/alx1255
AD6JULARNZRH/ALX1255                                                            
** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AD ** ZRH ZURICH.CH                  5 WE 06JUL 0000  
 1   LX1255  J9 C9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 /ARN 5 ZRH    1935    2200  E0/321       2:25 
             Q9                                                                 
                                                                  
>sm/1/c/v
SM LX 1255/C/06JULARNZRH/V                                                      
SM LX  1255  C 06JUL ARNZRH        321                                          
        A  B  C     D  E  F                                                     
C  1    I     +     I     C   1  C                                              
   2    .     .     H     +   2                                                 
   3    U     U     U     U   3                                                 
   4    +     +     I     I   4                                                 
   5    .     +     I     I   5                                                 
   6    .     .     I     +   6                                                 
   7    .     .     I     I   7                                                 
   8    .     .     I     I   8                                                 
   9    .     .     I     I   9                                                 
        A  B  C     D  E  F                                                     
                                                                                
        A  B  C     D  E  F                                                     
C 10 E        E     E        E 10 C                                             
        A  B  C     D  E  F                                                     
. AVAILABLE   <> WING     F GEN FACI   K GALLEY   E EXIT    C COT               
+ OCCUPIED    - LAST OFF  H HANDICAP   Q QUIET    G GROUPS  P PET               
/ RESTRICTED  B BULKHEAD  V PREF.SEAT  X BLOCKED  L LEGROOM U UMNR              
() SMOKING    D DEPORTEE  UP UP-DECK   Z NO FILM  I INFANT  R REAR              
Y CHARGEABLE                                                                    
)>sm/1/y/v
SM LX 1255/Y/06JULARNZRH/V                                                      
SM LX  1255  Y 06JUL ARNZRH        321                                          
         A  B  C     D  E  F                                                    
Y 14     V  V  +     +  V  V    14 Y                                            
  15 <   V  V  V     V  V  V  > 15                                              
  16 <   V  V  V     V  V  V  > 16                                              
  17 <   V  V  V     V  V  V  > 17                                              
  18 <   +  +  +     +  +  +  > 18                                              
  19 <   +  +  +     +  +  +  > 19                                              
  20 <   Y  Y  +     +  Y  +  > 20                                              
  21 <   +  Y  Y     Y  Y  Y  > 21                                              
  22 <   Y  Y  Y     Y  +  +  > 22                                              
  23 <   Y  Y  Y     Y  Y  Y  > 23                                              
  24     Y  Y  +                24                                              
         A  B  C     D  E  F                                                    
                                                                                
        A  B  C     D  E  F                                                     
. AVAILABLE   <> WING     F GEN FACI   K GALLEY   E EXIT    C COT               
+ OCCUPIED    - LAST OFF  H HANDICAP   Q QUIET    G GROUPS  P PET               
/ RESTRICTED  B BULKHEAD  V PREF.SEAT  X BLOCKED  L LEGROOM U UMNR              
() SMOKING    D DEPORTEE  UP UP-DECK   Z NO FILM  I INFANT  R REAR              
Y CHARGEABLE                                                                    
)>m
SM LX 1255/Y/06JULARNZRH/V                                                      
Y 25 E  L  L  L     L  L  L  E 25 Y                                             
  26    Y  Y  Y     Y  Y  +    26                                               
  27    Y  Y  Y     Y  Y  Y    27                                               
  28    Y  Y  Y     Y  Y  Y    28                                               
  29    Y  Y  Y     Y  Y  Y    29                                               
  30    Y  Y  Y     Y  Y  Y    30                                               
  31    Y  Y  Y     Y  Y  Y    31                                               
  32    Y  Y  Y     Y  Y  Y    32                                               
  33    Y  Y  Y     Y  Y  Y    33                                               
  34    Y  Y  Y     Y  Y  Y    34                                               
  35    Y  Y  Y     Y  Y  Y    35                                               
  36    Y  Y  Y     Y  Y  Y    36                                               
  37    Y  Y  Y     Y  Y  Y    37                                               
  38    /  /  /     /  /  /    38                                               
  39                /  /  /    39                                               
        A  B  C     D  E  F                                                     
. AVAILABLE   <> WING     F GEN FACI   K GALLEY   E EXIT    C COT               
+ OCCUPIED    - LAST OFF  H HANDICAP   Q QUIET    G GROUPS  P PET               
/ RESTRICTED  B BULKHEAD  V PREF.SEAT  X BLOCKED  L LEGROOM U UMNR              
() SMOKING    D DEPORTEE  UP UP-DECK   Z NO FILM  I INFANT  R REAR              
Y CHARGEABLE                                                                    
>

You can upgrade to C using the 'comfort package' for a fixed price here:
https://www.swiss.com/ch/en/book%5Cc...omfort-package

or you bid for an upgrade here:
https://www.swiss.com/ch/en/book%5Cs...pgrade-bargain

Look at the prices required and see if its less or more than the 15000 miles.

Jul 1, 2016, 6:19 am

#1102

RedRobin

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Quote:

Originally Posted by oliver2002

Thanks. The ticket has been issued already on U, via corporate travel agent (CWT). When i login into my profile with m&m on Swiss site, I do not see either option for the upgrade (comfort package and bid for upgrade) - what am I doing wrong, or since its was not booked directly, then, no go,.. or must call?

Jul 1, 2016, 7:21 am

#1103

oliver2002

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RedRobin

better call. Note that once a comfort package or plusgrade upgrade is processed, control goes from CWT to LX, so only LX can change things.

Jul 1, 2016, 8:10 am

#1104

flymexico2010

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Looking to fly with LH from MEX to eastern Europe (BUD,TSR;OTP;ATH.etc) August 28-31st - September 14-17th.

2 Years ago I was able to get tickets with 1000 USD.
Now they are still above 1500 USD (for L class!!!) for almost all these airports. 1800 USD for S class.
Am I missing something here? How do they charge these higher prices for Eastern vs Western Europe? This does not make sense to me...

Are the loads that high that now they are trying to charge such a premium over other western Europe airports like CDG, FCO, AMS, MAD??? These can be had for around 1000 USD for my period.

Jul 5, 2016, 11:56 am

#1105

RedRobin

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Hello again. Can someone please let me know the loads for LX 1251 (ARN-ZRH) tomorrow (06-July-16).

I want to know if there is available Economy Flex (and cheaper economies..) as well as Business, please. (I?)

I am booked on the later flight (lx1255) on "Q" class (economy flex) with an upgrade into business (I) done with miles (15.000)

Also, any chance I can change to the earlier flight without having to pay anything? (thats why the flex fare..., right?)

Thanks for your expertise and feedback with the current availability...

Jul 5, 2016, 1:25 pm

#1106

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Quote:

Originally Posted by redrobin

hello again. Can someone please let me know the loads for lx 1251 (arn-zrh) tomorrow (06-july-16).

I want to know if there is available economy flex (and cheaper economies..) as well as business, please. (i?)

i am booked on the later flight (lx1255) on "q" class (economy flex) with an upgrade into business (i) done with miles (15.000)

also, any chance i can change to the earlier flight without having to pay anything? (thats why the flex fare..., right?)

thanks for your expertise and feedback with the current availability...

lx 1251 0 arn 15:20 zrh 17:45 320 j2 c2 d0 z0 p0 y2 b2 m2 u2 h2 q0 v0 w0 s0 t0 e0 l0 k0

ef pos us.

Jul 5, 2016, 1:30 pm

#1107

RedRobin

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cas_de

lx 1251 0 arn 15:20 zrh 17:45 320 j2 c2 d0 z0 p0 y2 b2 m2 u2 h2 q0 v0 w0 s0 t0 e0 l0 k0

ef pos us.

thanks, two questions. Can I assume they would allow the mileage upgrade if J2 C2, or needed to have a "I" space? ( i guess EF does not show I class. )

also, Q is lower than B, M, U, H? ( I know it should be lower than "Y".. or does not matter since its flex?)

i guess its not looking good...

Jul 5, 2016, 2:52 pm

#1108

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RedRobin

I don't think Q is a fully flex fare. It's definitely lower than B. Also why would you want to spend 15000 miles to upgrade such a short flight?

Jul 5, 2016, 3:13 pm

#1109

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RedRobin

I believe you have no change for an upgrade, as D and P are already 0 and I is much closer to P than to C. LX is not like US carriers filling up their Business Class.
In addition Q is 0, therefore you would have to pay - even if you fly Economy- teh fare differnce to the next available fare class.

Jul 6, 2016, 12:33 am

#1110

RedRobin

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NewbieRunner

I don't think Q is a fully flex fare. It's definitely lower than B. Also why would you want to spend 15000 miles to upgrade such a short flight?

Thanks, that's what I thought, but was not sure.

In regards to the miles, two fold reason: they wanted a 500.00 and something upgrade fee since it was issued by the CWT team, and wrongly on SAS ticket number,... in other words, a mess. Second, since I had from a fam. member account 16.000 expiring miles.... so why go to waste...