The Miles and More Forum Biergarten Thread — Everybody is Welcome
Feb 2, 2019, 5:54 pm
#1726
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Feb 3, 2019, 10:00 am
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Feb 3, 2019, 11:07 am
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Northwest used to have it as Eglin AFB in their system. If you haven’t been there in the 21st century the new terminal is pleasant for a small airport and does include public toilets airside unlike the old one. They still do usually use the north-south runway for most landings, which is in the vicinity of Alabama and gives the passengers a Polderbaan- like experience in getting to the gate
It seemed then to be known as Elgin Air Force Base, though i remember being told that had never been its official name - even though it is a pretty accurate description of where it is...
Feb 3, 2019, 11:59 am
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I can only assume that the "travel agents" who voted it into top place are the kind that never actually use airports.
Feb 3, 2019, 2:07 pm
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Feb 3, 2019, 3:29 pm
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Says a lot about the Globe Travel Awards. 
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Best Mainstream Cruise Company – Royal Caribbean International
Best Premium Cruise Company – Celebrity Cruises
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On the Move, sponsored by P&O Ferries
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Best Premium Touring Company – Insight Vacations
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Best Adventure Operator – G-Adventures
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Best All-Inclusive Resort Operator – Sandals
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Serving the industry, sponsored by Palladium Hotel Group
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Best Trade Sales Team – Jet2Holidays
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Feb 3, 2019, 4:59 pm
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Says a lot about the Globe Travel Awards.
Feb 4, 2019, 6:42 am
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Feb 4, 2019, 7:58 am
#1735
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Over at MUCforum.de some members take the pain to evaluate the destatis numbers and pair it with the capacities:
The QR, EK and AA numbers look rather dire... 
Originally Posted by MUCfreak, post: 301928, member: 2869
Die Zahlen für November (Prozentangaben können manchmal geringfügig von destatis abweichen, die Anzahl der Sitzplätze musste ich schätzen)
EW: A332: 310
LH: A333: 255
A346: 289
A359: 293
A388: 509
UA: B763: 214
B764: 242
B772: 267
B789: 252
DL: B763: 215
B764: 246
AA: A332: 247
AC: B789: 289
B773: 425
CA: B773: 311
A332: 260
NH: B789: 230
SQ: A359: 253
SA: A332: 222
A333: 249
A346: 317
TG: B773: 348
SV: A320: 131
WY: A332: 226
A333: 230
EK: B773: 357
A388: 506
EY: B789: 267
B773: 354
QR: B773: 356
KU: A320: 130
A332: 212
AV: B788: 250
DE: B753: 275
B763: 250
Afrika gesamt: 45300 (43312) (+4,6%)
Mauritius: 1072 (825) (+29,9%) 69,2% (EW: 5xA332)
Cape Town: 5896 (5731) (+2,9%) 92,7% (LH: 22xA346)
Johannesburg: 5307 (6759) -21,5%) 79,4% (SA: 29xA332, 1xA333)
Amerika gesamt: 140760 (118323) (+19%) 80,1%
Barbados: 810 (769) (+5,3%) 100% (DE: 2xB763; EW: 1xA332)
La Romana: 1607 (1945) (-17,4%) 99,8% (DE: 4xB763; EW: 2xA332)
Punta Cana: 4018 (2959) (+35,8%) 89,7% (DE: 8xB763; EW: 8xA332)
Montego Bay: 2583 (1691) (+52,7%) 83,4% (EW: 10xA332)
Kanada gesamt: 12176 (11273) (+8%) 73,2%
- Montreal: 4537 (4312) (+5,2%) 80,4% (LH: 21xA333, 1xA346)
- Toronto: 7639 (6961) (+9,7%) 66,6% (AC: 27xB773)
Bogota: 2226 89% (AV: 10xB788)
Havana: 2045 (1115) (+83,4%) 91,3% (DE: 4xB763; EW: 4xA332)
Varadero: 947 (1012) (-6,4%) 76,4% (EW: 4xA332)
Cancun: 3017 (1970) (+53,1%) 93,1% (DE: 8xB763; EW: 4xA332)
Mexico-City: 5790 (5165) (+12,1%) 90,1% (LH: 5xA346, 17xA359)
USA gesamt: 105552 (88157) (+19,7%) 79,2%
- Boston: 7045 (6625) (+6,3%) 82,9% (LH: 29xA359)
- Newark: 12209 (12216) (-0%) 79% (UA: 30xB764; LH 2xA346, 26xA359)
- Washington: 9713 (9639) (+0,8%) 78,2% (UA: 30xB772; LH: 2xA346, 15xA333
- New York: 6359 (6822) (-6,8%) 75,8% (LH: 29xA346)
- Philadelphia: 4021 (3990) (+0,8%) 65,1% (AA: 25xA332)
- Atlanta: 5233 (5590) (-6,4%) 86,9% (DL: 28xB763)
- Charlotte: 5215 (5371) (-2,9%) 72,7% (LH: 1xA346, 27xA333)
- Miami: 12394 (3853) (+321,7%) 84% (LH: 29xA388)
- Chicago: 13666 (13689) (-0,2%) 82,8% (UA: 30xB772; LH: 29xA359
- Houston: 4484 72,3% (UA: 29xB763)
- Denver: 6442 (5456) (+18,1%) 81,5% (LH: 20xA359, 8xA333)
- Los Angeles: 6792 (7324) (-7,3%) 87% (LH: 27xA346)
- San Francisco: 11804 (7581) (+55,7%) 80% (LH: 29xA388)
Asien gesamt: 160581 (145082) (+10,7%) 72,5%
China gesamt: 29307 (23110) (+26,8%) 76,1%
Hong Kong: 8391 (5241) (+60,1%) 78,5% (LH: 21xA388)
Peking: 11080 (8834) (+25,4%) 70,2% (CA: 30xB773; LH: 22xA359)
Shangai: 9836 (9035) (+8,9%) 81,6% (CA: 13xA332; LH: 30xA346)
Mumbai: 6786 (7549) (-10,1%) 85,5% (LH: 1xA346, 29xA333)
Dehli: 7870 (8018) (-1,8%) 89,6% (LH: 1xA346, 29xA359)
Tokio: 13117 (12702) (+3,3%) 83,6% (NH: 30xB789; LH: 30xA359)
Doha: 13097 (9932) (+31,9%) 61,3% (QR: 60xB773)
Kuwait: 853 54,7% (KU: 12xA320)
Maskat: 5780 (6110) (-5,4%) 84,1% (WY: 6xA332, 24xA333)
Saudi-Arabien: 1463 (1240) (+18%) 55,8% (SV: 20xA320)
Singapur: 10929 (5628) (+94,2%) 79,5% (SQ: 30xA359; LH: 1xA346, 20xA359)
Seoul: 5383 (5027) (+7,1%) 83,5% (LH: 22xA359)
Bangkok: 9583 (9901) (-3,2%) 95% (TG: 29xB773)
Abu Dhabi: 12941 (14023) (-7,7%) 60,9% (EY: 60xB773)
Dubai World: 995 (965) (+3,1%) 90,4% (DE: 4xB753)
Dubai: 25639 (25941) (-1,2%) 62,4% (EK: 60xA388, 30xB773)
EW: A332: 310
LH: A333: 255
A346: 289
A359: 293
A388: 509
UA: B763: 214
B764: 242
B772: 267
B789: 252
DL: B763: 215
B764: 246
AA: A332: 247
AC: B789: 289
B773: 425
CA: B773: 311
A332: 260
NH: B789: 230
SQ: A359: 253
SA: A332: 222
A333: 249
A346: 317
TG: B773: 348
SV: A320: 131
WY: A332: 226
A333: 230
EK: B773: 357
A388: 506
EY: B789: 267
B773: 354
QR: B773: 356
KU: A320: 130
A332: 212
AV: B788: 250
DE: B753: 275
B763: 250
Afrika gesamt: 45300 (43312) (+4,6%)
Mauritius: 1072 (825) (+29,9%) 69,2% (EW: 5xA332)
Cape Town: 5896 (5731) (+2,9%) 92,7% (LH: 22xA346)
Johannesburg: 5307 (6759) -21,5%) 79,4% (SA: 29xA332, 1xA333)
Amerika gesamt: 140760 (118323) (+19%) 80,1%
Barbados: 810 (769) (+5,3%) 100% (DE: 2xB763; EW: 1xA332)
La Romana: 1607 (1945) (-17,4%) 99,8% (DE: 4xB763; EW: 2xA332)
Punta Cana: 4018 (2959) (+35,8%) 89,7% (DE: 8xB763; EW: 8xA332)
Montego Bay: 2583 (1691) (+52,7%) 83,4% (EW: 10xA332)
Kanada gesamt: 12176 (11273) (+8%) 73,2%
- Montreal: 4537 (4312) (+5,2%) 80,4% (LH: 21xA333, 1xA346)
- Toronto: 7639 (6961) (+9,7%) 66,6% (AC: 27xB773)
Bogota: 2226 89% (AV: 10xB788)
Havana: 2045 (1115) (+83,4%) 91,3% (DE: 4xB763; EW: 4xA332)
Varadero: 947 (1012) (-6,4%) 76,4% (EW: 4xA332)
Cancun: 3017 (1970) (+53,1%) 93,1% (DE: 8xB763; EW: 4xA332)
Mexico-City: 5790 (5165) (+12,1%) 90,1% (LH: 5xA346, 17xA359)
USA gesamt: 105552 (88157) (+19,7%) 79,2%
- Boston: 7045 (6625) (+6,3%) 82,9% (LH: 29xA359)
- Newark: 12209 (12216) (-0%) 79% (UA: 30xB764; LH 2xA346, 26xA359)
- Washington: 9713 (9639) (+0,8%) 78,2% (UA: 30xB772; LH: 2xA346, 15xA333
- New York: 6359 (6822) (-6,8%) 75,8% (LH: 29xA346)
- Philadelphia: 4021 (3990) (+0,8%) 65,1% (AA: 25xA332)
- Atlanta: 5233 (5590) (-6,4%) 86,9% (DL: 28xB763)
- Charlotte: 5215 (5371) (-2,9%) 72,7% (LH: 1xA346, 27xA333)
- Miami: 12394 (3853) (+321,7%) 84% (LH: 29xA388)
- Chicago: 13666 (13689) (-0,2%) 82,8% (UA: 30xB772; LH: 29xA359
- Houston: 4484 72,3% (UA: 29xB763)
- Denver: 6442 (5456) (+18,1%) 81,5% (LH: 20xA359, 8xA333)
- Los Angeles: 6792 (7324) (-7,3%) 87% (LH: 27xA346)
- San Francisco: 11804 (7581) (+55,7%) 80% (LH: 29xA388)
Asien gesamt: 160581 (145082) (+10,7%) 72,5%
China gesamt: 29307 (23110) (+26,8%) 76,1%
Hong Kong: 8391 (5241) (+60,1%) 78,5% (LH: 21xA388)
Peking: 11080 (8834) (+25,4%) 70,2% (CA: 30xB773; LH: 22xA359)
Shangai: 9836 (9035) (+8,9%) 81,6% (CA: 13xA332; LH: 30xA346)
Mumbai: 6786 (7549) (-10,1%) 85,5% (LH: 1xA346, 29xA333)
Dehli: 7870 (8018) (-1,8%) 89,6% (LH: 1xA346, 29xA359)
Tokio: 13117 (12702) (+3,3%) 83,6% (NH: 30xB789; LH: 30xA359)
Doha: 13097 (9932) (+31,9%) 61,3% (QR: 60xB773)
Kuwait: 853 54,7% (KU: 12xA320)
Maskat: 5780 (6110) (-5,4%) 84,1% (WY: 6xA332, 24xA333)
Saudi-Arabien: 1463 (1240) (+18%) 55,8% (SV: 20xA320)
Singapur: 10929 (5628) (+94,2%) 79,5% (SQ: 30xA359; LH: 1xA346, 20xA359)
Seoul: 5383 (5027) (+7,1%) 83,5% (LH: 22xA359)
Bangkok: 9583 (9901) (-3,2%) 95% (TG: 29xB773)
Abu Dhabi: 12941 (14023) (-7,7%) 60,9% (EY: 60xB773)
Dubai World: 995 (965) (+3,1%) 90,4% (DE: 4xB753)
Dubai: 25639 (25941) (-1,2%) 62,4% (EK: 60xA388, 30xB773)
Feb 4, 2019, 12:36 pm
#1737
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Probably the worst airport I've been in 2018, although I must admit I've been to DAC so many times I get used to it.
That lounge in MAN btw, dear god - absolutely dreadful
That lounge in MAN btw, dear god - absolutely dreadful
Feb 4, 2019, 7:47 pm
#1738
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I hope the powers at MAN are reading this....
The Aspire lounge, totally inappropriate name, usually filthy, overcrowded with Easyjet & Jet2 pax who are determined to get their money’s worth
Feb 5, 2019, 4:09 am
#1739
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Good demolition job, Newbie Runner.
I think most of the surveys and polls put out these days are just thinly disguised marketing dreck or payments for services rendered. Of course, we could never accuse SkyTrax of indulging in such nefarious practices!
I think most of the surveys and polls put out these days are just thinly disguised marketing dreck or payments for services rendered. Of course, we could never accuse SkyTrax of indulging in such nefarious practices!
Feb 5, 2019, 4:11 am
#1740
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Yes, I honestly can't think of anything that is further removed from the true meaning of "aspire" than the Aspire lounge at MAN. There should be a sign above the entrance: "Abandon hope all ye who enter here."