Blackjack -- Live vs. Machine
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Of course placing blame is a natural reaction, but as I already stated, I've experienced gamblers getting irritated even when things DO go well. It's just that much of a offense to some players.
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I'm sure in that case, the player would be crediting his own incredible skill and intellect, and would not even be considering the actions of the "bad" player.
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Exactly. Many of us find it annoying to play with people who don't know what they are doing, particularly when it isn't rocket science. I would imagine it's like playing behind novices on a golf course.
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Regardless, if you had said you were leaving because the positive CHI energy had just left the table (or some other superstitious/Feng Shui reason) -- the pit boss would be been just as "understanding and sympathetic."
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Most pit bosses are a few levels above trained monkeys (though, I will admit, some are very nice; and I've made some nice friendships over the years).
Regardless, if you had said you were leaving because the positive CHI energy had just left the table (or some other superstitious/Feng Shui reason) -- the pit boss would be been just as "understanding and sympathetic."
Regardless, if you had said you were leaving because the positive CHI energy had just left the table (or some other superstitious/Feng Shui reason) -- the pit boss would be been just as "understanding and sympathetic."
Very true.
When was the last time you saw a casino ask a “Bad BJ Player” to leave? The “Good Player” has a much higher chance of being asked to take his play elsewhere.
Personally I could care less how people play BJ on a multiple deck shoe, unless I am having a bad run and then it is someone else’s fault, and by someone else I mean anyone but myself.
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No, I would still be irritated, but at least I would be able to walk away with extra chips. In fact I have often done just that, and I always explain to the pit boss exactly why I'm leaving. They are always quite understanding and usually sympathetic.
Exactly. Many of us find it annoying to play with people who don't know what they are doing, particularly when it isn't rocket science. I would imagine it's like playing behind novices on a golf course.
Exactly. Many of us find it annoying to play with people who don't know what they are doing, particularly when it isn't rocket science. I would imagine it's like playing behind novices on a golf course.
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Actually I would prefer (in order of preference):
(1) Elimination of tobacco smoke in all casinos (or confined to small room similar to airports).
(2) More local hiring in Vegas.
(3) Self-service card readers for player cards i.e. similar to Harrah's
(4) Clearly marked rule changes. Perhaps they should be required post the best odds at each table.
(5) Specially designated tables for expert players.
As for deviation from the basic strategy there is a difference between bucking the odds and stupidity. To double-down on a soft-8 vs. a 6 might be too bold for some; to split 10s or hit a 16 vs. a 6 is stupidity. But then again I'm the type of person who gets annoyed when drivers fail to use turn signals, so maybe we'd be better off playing at different tables.
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Actually I would prefer (in order of preference):
(1) Elimination of tobacco smoke in all casinos (or confined to small room similar to airports).
(2) More local hiring in Vegas.
(3) Self-service card readers for player cards i.e. similar to Harrah's
(4) Clearly marked rule changes. Perhaps they should be required post the best odds at each table.
(5) Specially designated tables for expert players.
As for deviation from the basic strategy there is a difference between bucking the odds and stupidity. To double-down on a soft-8 vs. a 6 might be too bold for some; to split 10s or hit a 16 vs. a 6 is stupidity. But then again I'm the type of person who gets annoyed when drivers fail to use turn signals, so maybe we'd be better off playing at different tables.
(1) Elimination of tobacco smoke in all casinos (or confined to small room similar to airports).
(2) More local hiring in Vegas.
(3) Self-service card readers for player cards i.e. similar to Harrah's
(4) Clearly marked rule changes. Perhaps they should be required post the best odds at each table.
(5) Specially designated tables for expert players.
As for deviation from the basic strategy there is a difference between bucking the odds and stupidity. To double-down on a soft-8 vs. a 6 might be too bold for some; to split 10s or hit a 16 vs. a 6 is stupidity. But then again I'm the type of person who gets annoyed when drivers fail to use turn signals, so maybe we'd be better off playing at different tables.
As for stupid players -- I see them all the time on Video Poker doing ridiculous things like discarding a low pair to hold 2 cards to a Royal Flush -- someone needs to pay for those opulent hotels. In either case, neither player affects me!
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Excuse me! Card-counting can xhange a negative EV to a positive. That's why they ask counters to leave.
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Lots of places have no mid shoe or limits
For example, Wynn double deck has no mid shoe. They don't post it, but you can't come in mid round.
NYNY and Planet Hollywood also has mid-deck entry limits on various games.
For example, Wynn double deck has no mid shoe. They don't post it, but you can't come in mid round.
NYNY and Planet Hollywood also has mid-deck entry limits on various games.