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comp discussion
After reading some of the threads here, particulary the Wynn one, it would appear that slot players (video poker excluded) get much better treatment than table game people.
I play only penny slots (but full coin, $2.00 to $4.00 per spin.)
I stick with Harrahs (Total Rewards) and MGM-Mirage properties only.
As a Diamond Total Rewards member, I can book, via the internet (I don't like dealing with hosts, I feel I am asking for a "handout"), even on weekends, in most properties rooms as "free" (under the official promo) or "comped", either way it is $0.00 that I am paying.
In the MGM system, I get offers where the rooms (and in many cases food) are "free" upfront.
[Note: Borgata Casino in AC, is linked with the Boyd-MGM system, you can use your comp dollars to get certificates which can be used at any linked casinos--these can be used as cash--they cover tips, room charges, food etc., which oddly, tips are NOT covered with comps at Borgata.]
It seems to me that having to "beg" for something is very demeaning.
[I overheard a conversation at Monte Carlo, a man who had gambled "big bucks" at table games, was asking a slot host to comp him for charges to his room, they would cover most items, but NOT pay-per-view videos on the TV; this seems very petty. My Borgata certificates would cover this
.]
I play only penny slots (but full coin, $2.00 to $4.00 per spin.)
I stick with Harrahs (Total Rewards) and MGM-Mirage properties only.
As a Diamond Total Rewards member, I can book, via the internet (I don't like dealing with hosts, I feel I am asking for a "handout"), even on weekends, in most properties rooms as "free" (under the official promo) or "comped", either way it is $0.00 that I am paying.
In the MGM system, I get offers where the rooms (and in many cases food) are "free" upfront.
[Note: Borgata Casino in AC, is linked with the Boyd-MGM system, you can use your comp dollars to get certificates which can be used at any linked casinos--these can be used as cash--they cover tips, room charges, food etc., which oddly, tips are NOT covered with comps at Borgata.]
It seems to me that having to "beg" for something is very demeaning.
[I overheard a conversation at Monte Carlo, a man who had gambled "big bucks" at table games, was asking a slot host to comp him for charges to his room, they would cover most items, but NOT pay-per-view videos on the TV; this seems very petty. My Borgata certificates would cover this
.]
Last edited by nrr; Sep 17, 2007 at 7:39 am
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we "might" want to link this thread to the COMP THREAD that was previously started... 
yes, I basically agree --- slot players are always treated better (why NOT, the hold is anywhere from 10% to 20%). I disagree that VP players are NOT treated well. Yes, they are NOT treated as well as they were ONLY a few years ago --- but, when you consider the difference :
Slots : House edge 10% to 20%
Video Poker : House edge 1% to 2%
It sort of makes sense. I also agree that HET is very fair with upfront COMP rooms for VP players. They also provide a lot of tournament and special offers (free cash, gift cards, spa visits) to relatively low rollers.
Now your comment :
WHY?? The basis for the entire COMP system has always been to push the limits. If you don't, then you are NOT getting enough. You WANT to hear --- but sir "we have OVER-comped you" --- until you hear that... you aren't pushing them far enough.
Now, I do respect that some can't deal with this --- but, the COMP SYSTEM is a big game... Remember, the casinos do lots of things to us :
- they modify the payouts on slots
- they cut the paytables at video poker
- they are vague about how comps are earned
- they talk in generalities
- they are trying to WIN ALL OF YOUR MONEY
--- So, just look at it as WAR --- you against them... This is NOT asking for a FREE bottle of champers at the St. Regis in NYC because it is your birthday --- this is getting what you DESERVE for your action.
Also,
you mention :
Yes, petty, but THE RULES --- I've had RFB stays at properties where I charged over $1500 in food and beverage to my account and had it all wiped off --- but, was told --- we CANNOT COMP videos.... But, who the hell cares... Yes, it is silly, but let's see
$1500 in free food --- and I settle $12 in movies to my AMEX -- not a big deal, IMHO.
It is the player that needs to get over-himself with regard to paying for the videos.
so, nrr... GO OUT THERE and take them for everything you can! IT'S WAR!!!!!!

edit to add : If you are doing on average 1,000 tier (base) points per day at an HET property ($10,000 coin in VP or $5,000 coin-inSlots) -- you should be visiting a host before check-out to remove some charges (discretionary) from your room FOLIO --- after you have exhausted (used all) of your RCs (Reward Credits).

yes, I basically agree --- slot players are always treated better (why NOT, the hold is anywhere from 10% to 20%). I disagree that VP players are NOT treated well. Yes, they are NOT treated as well as they were ONLY a few years ago --- but, when you consider the difference :
Slots : House edge 10% to 20%
Video Poker : House edge 1% to 2%
It sort of makes sense. I also agree that HET is very fair with upfront COMP rooms for VP players. They also provide a lot of tournament and special offers (free cash, gift cards, spa visits) to relatively low rollers.
Now your comment :
It seems to me that having to "beg" for something is very demeaning.
Now, I do respect that some can't deal with this --- but, the COMP SYSTEM is a big game... Remember, the casinos do lots of things to us :
- they modify the payouts on slots
- they cut the paytables at video poker
- they are vague about how comps are earned
- they talk in generalities
- they are trying to WIN ALL OF YOUR MONEY
--- So, just look at it as WAR --- you against them... This is NOT asking for a FREE bottle of champers at the St. Regis in NYC because it is your birthday --- this is getting what you DESERVE for your action.
Also,
you mention :
I overheard a conversation at Monte Carlo, a man who had gambled "big bucks" at table games, was asking a slot host to comp him for charges to his room, they would cover most items, but NOT pay-per-view videos on the TV; this seems very petty.
$1500 in free food --- and I settle $12 in movies to my AMEX -- not a big deal, IMHO.
It is the player that needs to get over-himself with regard to paying for the videos.

so, nrr... GO OUT THERE and take them for everything you can! IT'S WAR!!!!!!


edit to add : If you are doing on average 1,000 tier (base) points per day at an HET property ($10,000 coin in VP or $5,000 coin-inSlots) -- you should be visiting a host before check-out to remove some charges (discretionary) from your room FOLIO --- after you have exhausted (used all) of your RCs (Reward Credits).
Last edited by baccarat_king; Sep 17, 2007 at 8:09 am
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I see it as just asking for something and the worse that can happen is "no." It's all part of the game and Vegas experience and finding a compatible host. Once you find one that you can get along well with you'll enjoy the experience and have no problems discussing comps.

