The new AF-KL loyalty program
 

Illuminating call with the FD helpdesk:
1) starting date new program: 1st June
2) elite bonusses: Silver:50%, Gold: 75%, Platinum: 100% :td:
3) if member flies on Kenya or SkyTeam carriers nothing changes (award and level miles are earned); on other partner airlines (e.g. Malaysia, Malev, China Southern) ONLY award miles :td: :td:
4) minimum mileage for short flights: 750 miles ^
5) award miles expire after 36 months :td:
6) miles needed for yearly level renewal: 25/40/70, but 30/60/90 if member resides in France :confused:
7) awards can be booked only on SkyTeam carriers, not on partner airlines :mad:
8) new world zones (Central America will require more miles than Northern America, Asia will be divided into two zones, introduction of two Pacific Ocean zones, etc) :td:
9) some partners (which ones?) will leave the program :confused:

On the poz side: possibility to hold a new booking for 4 days before confirming. ^ ^ ^

no news if e/n class will start to earn miles like the af program does of not like the fd program does ??

Are you SERIOUS? :mad: time to switch to NW FAST :eek:

I am afraid I don't see the positive side. I currently earn 1,000 F+ miles on any international segment. :(

Hmm. Looks like I'll be taking all my holidays on Skyteam this year and next...

Will we at least be able to get F awards now?

Partners leaving the program?

Likely to be GlobalPass....

Thoughts?

BSL

750 miles minimum would be a real bonus... if only one could actually earn miles on European flights that cost less than GBP 300 return!

Had the most idiotic letter from FD today regarding E/N fares - signed by the famous Ms Fob-Off who was signing all the Fob-Off letters about the FD change-over in 2002. I hadn't seen any letters from her recently so had rather hoped she had left... but she is still there, writing fob-off letters in replies to letters that she clearly hasn't even read.

(In a bad mood? Me???)

Are you sure that it is not 36 months of inactivity (viz. the current F+ rule)?

If it is 36 months then I have 3,500,000 to spend over the next three years!

Yes, you are right, it's 36 months without taking any SkyTeam's carrier flight

Mrs. Zanchi has no idea about what usually goes on and the dissatisfaction of the members for the E/N classes (and the rest!): maybe she should read this forum more often???

Need some help ;)

Good luck !!! I can't even spend 50k (which is only a part of my balance) on a trip to US never mind 3.5 mill.

I understand the miles requirements (it does not mean I approve them) but do you have any clue about the number of flights required ?
Old KLM FD is 20/40/60 and now .... ?

Anyway 25/40/70 is a funny sequence, look at the requirements to pass of level
25 (25-0)
15 (40-25)
30 (70-40)

If true not really a big difference between Silver and Gold but huge gap to Plat. I think it's or an error or an indication of 'huge' additional benefits for Plat (i.e. poor ones for Gold)

Any feedback ?

I don't think it is an error. These are in fact the current thresholds for F+ Bleu/Rouge (25K and 40K), so, in effect, what they are doing (from an F+ perspective) is adding a new level at 70K.
Wondering whether the CoS bonus will still be 100% for C, though (and what would be the CoS bonus for First)