"House of KLM" - Crown Lounge redesign
#61
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: San Francisco, CA
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I actually go to the McDonald's to get a quick bite instead of the lounge, heh heh. Gotta get that last minute kroket in before I go kroket-less for a month or two...
#62
Join Date: Oct 2006
Programs: AS, FB, MB, MR, HH
Posts: 347
It was packed full when I was there last week. There are some nice design flourishes but overall I felt it was too over-designed with a lot of impractical aspects, unusable taps in the bathrooms, illegible signage, poor location of the flight board, poor entrance layout etc.
The worst example was just getting a simple glass of water. I wandered around the food and drinks area for a few minutes trying to find water. I eventually had to stop a member of staff to ask. They pointed me to a beer like tap with two spouts that was completely unlabeled. I was informed that one was still and the other sparkling. On doing so at least a dozen other pax turned around and made a beeline for the taps, they had all been in the same boat so to speak. That is an ultimate design and user experience fail. When I said to the staff member that they should probably label them he rolled his eyes. Again nice but extremely impractical design.
I don’t think the lounge is going to wear well, too many unique aspects which will be costly to maintain.
The worst example was just getting a simple glass of water. I wandered around the food and drinks area for a few minutes trying to find water. I eventually had to stop a member of staff to ask. They pointed me to a beer like tap with two spouts that was completely unlabeled. I was informed that one was still and the other sparkling. On doing so at least a dozen other pax turned around and made a beeline for the taps, they had all been in the same boat so to speak. That is an ultimate design and user experience fail. When I said to the staff member that they should probably label them he rolled his eyes. Again nice but extremely impractical design.
I don’t think the lounge is going to wear well, too many unique aspects which will be costly to maintain.
#63
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2000
Posts: 14,352
I've struggled to wash my hands in any number of fancy marble washbasins with shiny designer faucets over the years. Glitzy hotels, lounges, restaurants, airports, you name it. The worst are the ones where some bright spark has come up with the idea of replacing the faucet with a miniature fountain or waterfall.
Johan
#64
Join Date: Jun 2015
Programs: Delta GM; FB Plat; HHonors Diamond; Hertz PC; National EE
Posts: 190
I took the liberty of taking a few more pictures of the new AMS lounge 52 today, including a few of the lockers (which are back!). The restrooms are disappointing though.
#65
Moderator: Aegean Miles+Bonus
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: AMS / ATH
Programs: AFKL Plat, A3 Gold
Posts: 7,340
I'm at the lounge now. The stairs that are in most pictures are not the main ones, there are also standard escalators to take you between levels. So no need to lug bagage over impractical stairs.
The food at the top level is basically like it used to be - salad components, hummus and cold tuna pasta. Downstairs it has some more dishes, like rice with sauce and some soups.
The worst though, regarding food, are the plates and cutlery. Paper plates and wooden forks/knives? Are they kidding?
Overall the atyle/ambiance is quite nice, but the seating is not very comfortable and the food is pretty much the same. Just the presentation has improved.
The food at the top level is basically like it used to be - salad components, hummus and cold tuna pasta. Downstairs it has some more dishes, like rice with sauce and some soups.
The worst though, regarding food, are the plates and cutlery. Paper plates and wooden forks/knives? Are they kidding?
Overall the atyle/ambiance is quite nice, but the seating is not very comfortable and the food is pretty much the same. Just the presentation has improved.
#66
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Amsterdam&Stuttgart& Edinburgh
Programs: IC Amb.,FB,Hertz,Sixt
Posts: 776
I was in it last week, am now in lounge 28. I have to say I was somewhat underwhelmed in 52. The food tasted better than my last visit (in that some salt and pepper were used) The worst bit was the smoking area, a 20sqm room with a sort of metal table with a slot for ash and butts, no seating and littered with dirty glasses.
Think I'll use this lounge in future if I can
Think I'll use this lounge in future if I can
#67
Join Date: Oct 2006
Programs: AS, FB, MB, MR, HH
Posts: 347
That kind of thing is common everywhere where (perceived) esthetics trump utility.
I've struggled to wash my hands in any number of fancy marble washbasins with shiny designer faucets over the years. Glitzy hotels, lounges, restaurants, airports, you name it. The worst are the ones where some bright spark has come up with the idea of replacing the faucet with a miniature fountain or waterfall.
Johan
I've struggled to wash my hands in any number of fancy marble washbasins with shiny designer faucets over the years. Glitzy hotels, lounges, restaurants, airports, you name it. The worst are the ones where some bright spark has come up with the idea of replacing the faucet with a miniature fountain or waterfall.
Johan
#68
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 500
One thing I dont understand with the new lounge is the food...I have had the same "Beef gulasch" 3 times now. They have built a full restaurant kitchen inside with a €30 000 oven (Im in the catering industry) and have a chef working there...but they just let him serve a prepared stew with rice? What? Is there more development to come or what?
#70
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: AMS
Programs: Flying Blue Platinum | Flying Blue Petroleum | Hilton Gold | Marriott Gold | Shangri-La Jade
Posts: 306
One thing I dont understand with the new lounge is the food...I have had the same "Beef gulasch" 3 times now. They have built a full restaurant kitchen inside with a €30 000 oven (Im in the catering industry) and have a chef working there...but they just let him serve a prepared stew with rice? What? Is there more development to come or what?
#72
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Join Date: Oct 2000
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