KMAR adding extra security checks at AMS
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Still everyday, weekdays and weekend, there is a massive traffic jam already starting before the tunnel. Think like cars standing still, people with suitcases walking in the tunnel desperate to catch their flight.
All of this for a symbolic security check during the peak of the season that has nothing to do with security and has made Schiphol not an inch more secure.
All of this for a symbolic security check during the peak of the season that has nothing to do with security and has made Schiphol not an inch more secure.
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Since this whole circus started, the entire haul comprises of a single handgun found in the glove compartment of a car in the departures drop-off zone. The driver must have been a certified moron.
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Annoying yes, but ever heard of implementing visible security measures to discourage things from happening...
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I would think the extra security scares of some people. Although it doesn't necessarily give me a more safe feeling. My thoughts after a weekend in Paris with police/army and machine guns seen on the street every 5 minutes at least.
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This morning they were blocking the main entrance from the A4 just before it splits to Arrivals/Departures/Long term parking.
Now of course if you come from south and see the traffic jam to schiphol you just take the exit immediately before it ("Long term/Cargo") where there is no security...
Now of course if you come from south and see the traffic jam to schiphol you just take the exit immediately before it ("Long term/Cargo") where there is no security...
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The number of potential targets is endless, increase security at one and the others become all the more attractive. Trains, buses, concert halls, ferries, subways, you name it. The latter must be especially vulnerable and appealing to terrorists, given that narrow tunnels greatly enhance the blast effect of an explosion.
One could go on and on, there is no way that even a fraction of targets could be given anywhere near adequate protection. That puts the authorities in a bind, perhaps inducing them to resort to very visible measures that have very little impact.
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No traffic jams or queues at lunchtime today. The main checkpoint between the A4 freeway and Departures was unmanned and deserted. They must have been hungry.One hopes that all miscreants bent on wreaking havoc at Schiphol were on a lunchbreak too.
Departures a complete zoo, by the way. The line for Schengen security stretched all the way to the KL check-in zone in Terminal 2.
Johan
Departures a complete zoo, by the way. The line for Schengen security stretched all the way to the KL check-in zone in Terminal 2.
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So please tell me, what is the purpose of this security check? Should I be an expect on this matter?
Imagine an airport security check with four lines. Two of them have TSA officers and a mandatory full body scan. While in the other two lanes there is no TSA officer nor a body scanner, you just walk through.
Would that discourage you from doing bad things?
Again, this has nothing to do with security.
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The Volkskrant has landed itself in some trouble; the driver photographed on the front cover on Tuesday is requesting that they publish a front-page apology on Friday or face action regarding invasion of privacy, reputational damage, etc
It also appears that the army is now on patrol there.
It also appears that the army is now on patrol there.
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An international airport with heavily armed military police and soldiers just metres away does not strike me as being a soft target. It means that whatever plan is being contemplated is going to be brought to a swift conclusion - where all the recent attacks show instead a preference for striking locations or targets where they can take their time in maximising the impact of their actions.
Call it theatre if you want - but I regard Schiphol is now a far less attractive target than before these controls were introduced.
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But since I don't have any of the relevant facts it's all useless speculation. And it's not that having a buffer zone outside the terminals has never been done.
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It's an interesting discussion if a photographer is framing because he/she has recorded what actually happened or should have waited until some blond Caucasian girl was stopped :-).
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Indeed...but there surely was a photograph that could have been used that did not allow any of the subjects to be so easily and obviously identified. The Marechaussee and soldier are, for example, not identifiable. Particularly given the subject-matter, it seems at the very least to have been an oversight on their part not to seek the consent of those photographed before using the photograph in such a public (and to some, provocative) way.
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Why be PC when we all know that this picture very actually represents what is happening.... two adult bearded men.... The picture only shows the reality, discussion about it are something different. Everyone can draw their own conclusions, I prefer to do that myself without any censorship in the facts that I'm presented.
And when it's a news picture you don't need consent of those displayed.
And when it's a news picture you don't need consent of those displayed.
Last edited by RTW1; Aug 18, 2016 at 1:44 am

