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Current status of KL's new WBC cabin refurbishment:
A330-300 fleet ( 5 of 5 confirmed)
PH-AKA done
PH-AKB done
PH-AKD done
PH-AKE done
PH-AKF done
A330-200 fleet ( 8 of 8 confirmed )
PH-AOA done
PH-AOB done
PH-AOC done
PH-AOD done
PH-AOE done
PH-AOF done
PH-AOM done
PH-AON done
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A330-300 fleet ( 5 of 5 confirmed)
PH-AKA done
PH-AKB done
PH-AKD done
PH-AKE done
PH-AKF done
A330-200 fleet ( 8 of 8 confirmed )
PH-AOA done
PH-AOB done
PH-AOC done
PH-AOD done
PH-AOE done
PH-AOF done
PH-AOM done
PH-AON done
Last update: 02-Feb-2019 (okazon69)
Previous update: 4-jan-2019 (KLflyerRalph)
Previous update: 30-Sep-2018 ( EvD86 )
Previous update: 25-Sep-2018 ( HSH )
Previous update: 10-Sep-2018 ( joene )
Previous update: 07-Sep-2018 ( ThePlaneThePlane )
Previous update: 28-Aug-2018 ( ThePlaneThePlane )
Previous update: 24-Aug-2018 ( ThePlaneThePlane )
Previous update: 30-Jul-2018 ( HSH )
Previous update: 13-Jun-2018 ( ThePlaneThePlane )
New WBC seat in A330-200 & 300
#136
Join Date: May 2010
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KLM has confirmed to InsideFlyer the PH-AKD is indeed the last A330-300 to be retrofitted and all flying A333's have the full-flat WBC. https://insideflyer.nl/klm-a330-300-...st-nieuwe-wbc/
#139
Join Date: May 2018
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What I am wondering is, why did they choose for at 2-2-2 configuration rather than a 1-2-1 like in the 789's?
QR is retrofitting their A330's with a 2-2-2 to a 1-2-1, and KLM is installing their old product. Awkward.
Also, why not retrofit Y because the IFE system is really outdated, so it looks the same or similar to their 772's, 77W's and 789's?
I don't understand the logic
QR is retrofitting their A330's with a 2-2-2 to a 1-2-1, and KLM is installing their old product. Awkward.
Also, why not retrofit Y because the IFE system is really outdated, so it looks the same or similar to their 772's, 77W's and 789's?
I don't understand the logic
#143
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: UK/FR
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Because the A330-300 are more recent (delivered between 2012 and 2014) and it seems that they've judged that the Y seats aren't at the end of their life cycle compared the A330-200 which were mostly delivered in 2005/2006.
Although 2 A330-200 (AOM/AON) were delivered later (in 2010 and 2013) so I dunno what will happen to them.
Although 2 A330-200 (AOM/AON) were delivered later (in 2010 and 2013) so I dunno what will happen to them.
#145
Join Date: Oct 2016
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I personally prefer the 2-2-2 Diamond seats over the current 787-9 ones.
#146
Join Date: May 2018
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Maybe because the 1-2-1 seat in the current 787-9 isn't that great and seems to have a lot of malfunctions in my experience. (There must be a reason they're switching to JAMCO in the 787-10 I suppose?)
I personally prefer the 2-2-2 Diamond seats over the current 787-9 ones.
I personally prefer the 2-2-2 Diamond seats over the current 787-9 ones.
#147
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This retrofit was started long before they got involved with the JAMCO seats. I guess their planning and contracting requires stability, you can't just change your mind every time something new comes along (which in any case would have resulted in a mixed seat A330 fleet as some were already completed).
#148
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AF is also starting the retrofit of the A332 with 2-2-2 in J. The economics of the plane guided this choice. So I suppose it is the same for KL.
#150
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