New WBC seat in A330-200 & 300

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Current status of KL's new WBC cabin refurbishment:

A330-300 fleet ( 5 of 5 confirmed)
PH-AKA done
PH-AKB done
PH-AKD done
PH-AKE done
PH-AKF done

A330-200 fleet ( 8 of 8 confirmed )
PH-AOA done
PH-AOB done
PH-AOC done
PH-AOD done
PH-AOE done
PH-AOF done
PH-AOM done
PH-AON done


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Old Dec 19, 13, 4:29 am
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New WBC seat in A330-200 & 300

When will KLM start to upgrade the Airbus A330 with the new Business Class Seats? So far I have only see the new WBC in B747s
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Old Dec 19, 13, 4:45 am
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There is currently no schedule for converting the Airbuses.

The conversion of 22 B747s will take up until next April. After that, they will commence with the conversion of 15 B777-200s which will in all likelihood take them into 2015.

http://www.klm.com/travel/gb_en/abou...ness_class.htm
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Old Dec 19, 17, 12:08 pm
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Saw today that the first A330-300 has the new WBC installed. PH-AKA. There are only a few A333 in the fleet so why does take until July to be completed?!

was hoping to get the new seat in February on a flight to BON
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Old Dec 19, 17, 12:21 pm
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Probably as with the 777, the first bird to get the new installation requires extensive certification, after which the conversion can be done at the pace of one each month.

Also, where did you see that? This is the first I'm hearing of it and there is no updated seat map on KLM.com.

Edit: I find an article on insideflyer.nl (https://insideflyer.nl/world-busines...an-747-en-777/) that states in bold letters that the same seat is installed as on the B777/B747… and then shows pictures of a wildly different seat. To be fair that was somewhat expected as the BE/A Diamond Seat in the same configuration as on the B777 would be too wide.
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Old Dec 19, 17, 12:49 pm
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Bit strange they started conversions with A333, since the A332 has the most outdated C- cabin. Might be because Y cabin will probably be converted in the A332. Currently all A333 are flying, so none in progress at the moment.
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Old Dec 19, 17, 12:51 pm
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https://www.upinthesky.nl/2017/12/19......-a330s-klm/

For some pictures (in Dutch)..
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Old Dec 19, 17, 1:19 pm
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PH-AOD hasn't flown since late november, I take it this is the first A332 to be converted? (They were supposed to start A332 conversion in November.)
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Old Dec 19, 17, 1:47 pm
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Not sure.. According to the news websites it will be conversion for the five A333 first and thereafter A332..
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Old Dec 20, 17, 5:44 am
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Not sure.. According to the news websites it will be conversion for the five A333 first and thereafter A332..
No, that looks more like ambiguous/poor writing. The A332s will be completed/finished after the A333, it's not that they won't start till they're done with the A333.

As far as I can tell, KLM is indicating Jan-Nov as the period in which you may (but or not guaranteed to) get a lie-flat seat on an A332 flight.
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Old Dec 20, 17, 7:25 am
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Originally Posted by CyBeR View Post
Probably as with the 777, the first bird to get the new installation requires extensive certification, after which the conversion can be done at the pace of one each month.

Also, where did you see that? This is the first I'm hearing of it and there is no updated seat map on KLM.com.

Edit: I find an article on insideflyer.nl (https://insideflyer.nl/world-busines...an-747-en-777/) that states in bold letters that the same seat is installed as on the B777/B747… and then shows pictures of a wildly different seat. To be fair that was somewhat expected as the BE/A Diamond Seat in the same configuration as on the B777 would be too wide.
It looks like an adapted version of the 777/747 seat. However the images KLM released don't properly show the cabin or seat in perspective.
In either case, it's not the newest seat from the 787 which was expected considering the low premium configuration on the A330's.

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Old Dec 20, 17, 12:20 pm
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It looks like an adapted version of the 777/747 seat.
Are they perhaps reusing seats from decommissioned 744s?

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Old Dec 20, 17, 5:12 pm
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Are they perhaps reusing seats from decommissioned 744s?

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It looks like the seat they're using on the A330s is a newer version of the parallel Diamond seat, similar to the one on Ethiopian's A350s (see https://thepointsguy.com/2017/03/ins...ines-a350-900/)
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Old Dec 20, 17, 5:18 pm
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It looks like the seat they're using on the A330s is a newer version of the parallel Diamond seat, similar to the one on Ethiopian's A350s (see https://thepointsguy.com/2017/03/ins...ines-a350-900/)
That's definitely the same seat as in the KL photos, yes.

I wonder, then, if they will later also put this seat in their A350s or go with the Cirrus for that one.
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Old Jan 2, 18, 9:56 am
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First "real" images of the new WBC in the A330.
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