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Old Aug 28, 2018, 7:50 pm
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Current status of KL's new WBC cabin refurbishment:

A330-300 fleet ( 5 of 5 confirmed)
PH-AKA done
PH-AKB done
PH-AKD done
PH-AKE done
PH-AKF done

A330-200 fleet ( 8 of 8 confirmed )
PH-AOA done
PH-AOB done
PH-AOC done
PH-AOD done
PH-AOE done
PH-AOF done
PH-AOM done
PH-AON done


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Old Nov 23, 2018, 8:36 am
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KLM has confirmed to InsideFlyer the PH-AKD is indeed the last A330-300 to be retrofitted and all flying A333's have the full-flat WBC. https://insideflyer.nl/klm-a330-300-...st-nieuwe-wbc/
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Old Nov 25, 2018, 3:11 pm
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As I have an A330-300 flight AMS-MIA on Tues, this announcement is not a moment too soon.
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Old Dec 5, 2018, 10:52 pm
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PH-AKD is scheduled for KL539 today, so it should be retrofitted! Only 2 to go...
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Old Dec 6, 2018, 4:24 am
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What I am wondering is, why did they choose for at 2-2-2 configuration rather than a 1-2-1 like in the 789's?

QR is retrofitting their A330's with a 2-2-2 to a 1-2-1, and KLM is installing their old product. Awkward.

Also, why not retrofit Y because the IFE system is really outdated, so it looks the same or similar to their 772's, 77W's and 789's?

I don't understand the logic
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Old Dec 6, 2018, 5:11 am
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I flew on a retrofitted A330-200 last month and the economy was also retrofitted to match the B777. Don’t recall which aircraft registration it was though.
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Old Dec 6, 2018, 6:40 am
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They are retrofitting the Y cabin of the A330-200 only, the Y on the A330-300 remains the same.
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Old Dec 6, 2018, 6:48 am
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Originally Posted by Mirk
They are retrofitting the Y cabin of the A330-200 only, the Y on the A330-300 remains the same.
Why is that?
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Old Dec 6, 2018, 8:25 am
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Originally Posted by BobTL

Why is that?
Because the A330-300 are more recent (delivered between 2012 and 2014) and it seems that they've judged that the Y seats aren't at the end of their life cycle compared the A330-200 which were mostly delivered in 2005/2006.
Although 2 A330-200 (AOM/AON) were delivered later (in 2010 and 2013) so I dunno what will happen to them.
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Old Dec 6, 2018, 8:30 am
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12-13 years old is not the end of their life cycle ? KLM retrofitted B744’s when they were older than 13 years so that can not be an argument ?
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Old Dec 6, 2018, 8:51 am
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Originally Posted by BobTL
What I am wondering is, why did they choose for at 2-2-2 configuration rather than a 1-2-1 like in the 789's?

QR is retrofitting their A330's with a 2-2-2 to a 1-2-1, and KLM is installing their old product. Awkward.
I don't understand the logic
Maybe because the 1-2-1 seat in the current 787-9 isn't that great and seems to have a lot of malfunctions in my experience. (There must be a reason they're switching to JAMCO in the 787-10 I suppose?)
I personally prefer the 2-2-2 Diamond seats over the current 787-9 ones.
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Old Dec 6, 2018, 8:56 am
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Maybe because the 1-2-1 seat in the current 787-9 isn't that great and seems to have a lot of malfunctions in my experience. (There must be a reason they're switching to JAMCO in the 787-10 I suppose?)
I personally prefer the 2-2-2 Diamond seats over the current 787-9 ones.
Yes that might be but why wouldn’t they install the JAMCO seats in the A330’s?
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Old Dec 6, 2018, 11:35 am
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Originally Posted by BobTL

Yes that might be but why wouldn’t they install the JAMCO seats in the A330’s?
This retrofit was started long before they got involved with the JAMCO seats. I guess their planning and contracting requires stability, you can't just change your mind every time something new comes along (which in any case would have resulted in a mixed seat A330 fleet as some were already completed).
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Old Dec 6, 2018, 1:13 pm
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AF is also starting the retrofit of the A332 with 2-2-2 in J. The economics of the plane guided this choice. So I suppose it is the same for KL.
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Old Dec 7, 2018, 1:43 am
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PH-AOE seems to have stopped flying two days ago, leaving only PH-AOF flying with the old seats.
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Old Dec 8, 2018, 3:53 am
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Originally Posted by ThePlaneThePlane
PH-AOE seems to have stopped flying two days ago, leaving only PH-AOF flying with the old seats.
The following article confirms this and mentions that PH-AOF will be retrofitted in January: https://www.upinthesky.nl/2018/12/06/klm-bouwt-laatste-a330-300-om/
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