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Old Aug 28, 2018, 7:50 pm
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Current status of KL's new WBC cabin refurbishment:

A330-300 fleet ( 5 of 5 confirmed)
PH-AKA done
PH-AKB done
PH-AKD done
PH-AKE done
PH-AKF done

A330-200 fleet ( 8 of 8 confirmed )
PH-AOA done
PH-AOB done
PH-AOC done
PH-AOD done
PH-AOE done
PH-AOF done
PH-AOM done
PH-AON done


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Old Apr 26, 2018, 10:44 am
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Originally Posted by splflyer
According sources at KLM remaining A330-300 will be refurbished april-june. A330-200 is expected to be finished by mid November.
Besides new seating in WBC and Economy on -200 aircraft wifi (Gogo) will be installed.
Certification seemed time consuming but they are getting ahead fast now with the next aircrafts.
The first ones took longer for any type due to certification. Do you have registrations of the ones being updated?

Does anyone have an updated seatmap already? I can't find it on klm.com and playing with seat maps during bookings doesn't show it either.
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Old Apr 27, 2018, 2:41 pm
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Originally Posted by EvD86
The first ones took longer for any type due to certification. Do you have registrations of the ones being updated?

Does anyone have an updated seatmap already? I can't find it on klm.com and playing with seat maps during bookings doesn't show it either.
Don't think it's possible to tell by the seat map - isn't the layout the same between old and new?
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Old Apr 28, 2018, 1:46 am
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I think the layout is the same, yes. They got rid of some J seats a while ago, so AFAIK there's only 3 rows of J in both the old and new cabins.

I wouldn't be surprised if they squeezed a few extra economy seats in, but even so, the A330 is my favourite plane to fly on in economy as a couple.
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Old Apr 30, 2018, 2:28 am
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The layout might be the same, but they updated their maps when installing the new seats with new fancy purple seats..
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Old Apr 30, 2018, 6:12 am
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Due to AF strike, switched on to KL 672 YUL-AMS on Wednesday. Normally this is a A332 route but on certain days it gets an A333. Wed it is slotted for PHAKF ....fingers crossed I get one of the updated A330s. They only have 5 in the darn fleet....I'll let you know.
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Old May 14, 2018, 3:13 am
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Got the old WBC seat. Felt old. Looked old. Shocked they haven't been more efficient with the switch.
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Old May 14, 2018, 6:01 am
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Originally Posted by lionelhutzskis
Felt old. Looked old
IS old.... 😉
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Old May 15, 2018, 1:25 pm
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Yea, really surprise KLM is so far behind the times here.
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Old Jun 11, 2018, 8:08 pm
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Any list somewhere of which planes have been retrofitted so far? Also have a flight in 3 weeks on these and am wondering what I have in store
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Old Jun 13, 2018, 12:50 am
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Acccording to my own tracking of aircraft inactivity for longer periods via Flightradar24, this should be the current status:
PH-AKA done
PH-AKB done
PH-AKD
PH-AKE in progress
PH-AKF
PH-AOA
PH-AOB
PH-AOC
PH-AOD done
PH-AOE done
PH-AOF done
PH-AOM
PH-AON done

Looks like a 50-50 chance to score the new seats
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Old Jun 13, 2018, 2:02 am
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Originally Posted by ThePlaneThePlane
Acccording to my own tracking of aircraft inactivity for longer periods via Flightradar24, this should be the current status:
PH-AKA done
PH-AKB done
PH-AKD
PH-AKE in progress
PH-AKF
PH-AOA
PH-AOB
PH-AOC
PH-AOD done
PH-AOE done
PH-AOF done
PH-AOM
PH-AON done

Looks like a 50-50 chance to score the new seats
Nice work! If they are still going to be finished the retrofits by November, this sounds right. I'm surprised they did PH-AON, those last two 332's are supposed to have better seats.

Good that there's a few more 332's done as well. It was always a bit ambiguous whether KLM would be re-fitting the rest of the 332's later this year after they'd finished the 333's, or whether they'd be doing them in parallel. Fingers crossed for my flight to YEG in mid-July. Burning my hard-earned miles while they're still worth something!
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Old Jun 13, 2018, 2:37 am
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This is the best option in the price/quality ratio! IMHO.
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Old Jun 14, 2018, 11:29 am
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Originally Posted by ThePlaneThePlane
Acccording to my own tracking of aircraft inactivity for longer periods via Flightradar24, this should be the current status:

PH-AOE done
I believe I flew this one last weekend and it is still in the old configuration.
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Old Jun 14, 2018, 1:47 pm
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Originally Posted by lionelhutzskis
Got the old WBC seat. Felt old. Looked old. Shocked they haven't been more efficient with the switch.
Definitely, KLM should be more proactive on this.
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Old Jun 14, 2018, 1:53 pm
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Flying to Aruba I actively avoid the old seats by booking the 747 to Curaçao and connecting to Aruba. Takes a little more time but totally worth it. I’ll be happy when I can peacefully fly lie-flat and nonstop.
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