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tphuang Jul 12, 2020 6:12 pm

I see that the 4 ex-monarch A321s are still showing as leased under JetBlue. The last one was only shown to have been delivered in June.
https://www.planespotters.net/airfra...airways/348g45

I assume these are all stored somewhere. But with the expanded mint flying out of EWR, I wonder if these will be brought into service as reconfigured mint A321s. Well, earning call season is coming soon. We might get some light on that.

GW McLintock Jul 12, 2020 7:37 pm


Originally Posted by tphuang (Post 32527077)
I see that the 4 ex-monarch A321s are still showing as leased under JetBlue. The last one was only shown to have been delivered in June.
https://www.planespotters.net/airfra...airways/348g45

I assume these are all stored somewhere. But with the expanded mint flying out of EWR, I wonder if these will be brought into service as reconfigured mint A321s. Well, earning call season is coming soon. We might get some light on that.

According to the fleet guide wiki:


Airbus A321-231 - 4 to be leased
  • Leased aircraft will not enter the fleet, and will be stored for the duration of the one year lease

AFAIK they are still in Tampa (well, 3 of them are... who knows about 902).

-J.

tphuang Jul 13, 2020 5:37 am


Originally Posted by GW McLintock (Post 32527212)
According to the fleet guide wiki:



AFAIK they are still in Tampa (well, 3 of them are... who knows about 902).

-J.

That would seem like a giant waste of money

GW McLintock Jul 13, 2020 7:57 am


Originally Posted by tphuang (Post 32527880)
That would seem like a giant waste of money

I agree... but what choice do they have :( Pay to reconfigure them with 200 seats and install IFE and Fly-Fi, fly them around with 220 seats and a 5th FA (while demand is at an all-time low)... or just leave them parked at minimal cost? I think this is an instance of cutting their losses. Nobody else wants these planes right now.

-J.

diburning Jul 13, 2020 4:26 pm

It was unfortunate timing. The leases were negotiated almost a year ago, and the planes were delivered about a week before the COVID downturn began.

tphuang Jul 13, 2020 5:08 pm


Originally Posted by GW McLintock (Post 32528128)
I agree... but what choice do they have :( Pay to reconfigure them with 200 seats and install IFE and Fly-Fi, fly them around with 220 seats and a 5th FA (while demand is at an all-time low)... or just leave them parked at minimal cost? I think this is an instance of cutting their losses. Nobody else wants these planes right now.

-J.

Or they could defer more all-core NEOs, which they actually don't need right now, convert the leased birds to mint config, so they can use them on these EWR transcons. They are now up to 5x on LAX and 2x SFO. Not sure where they are finding the aircraft for these. In a year, negotiate better term for leases, since the market demand is way down.

From what I can see, the immediate A321NEO deliveries are all 200 seaters.

diburning Jul 16, 2020 4:40 pm

With what seats? Seats are usually purchased well in advance and require a decent lead time to manufacture. By the time they get more mint seats that they didn’t plan to buy, they will be obsolete since there is a Mint refresh coming due to the seats not holding up.

N902JT has joined the other three at TPA.

GW McLintock Aug 6, 2020 8:51 pm

F-WZMA (msn 10029) had its first flight on July 14th at BFM. This would be the first American-built NEO for JetBlue. An N-number is not assigned yet.

Interesting that although it's built in Alabama, it still has a French registration.

-J.

fly747first Sep 11, 2020 3:41 pm


Originally Posted by GW McLintock (Post 32587309)
F-WZMA (msn 10029) had its first flight on July 14th at BFM. This would be the first American-built NEO for JetBlue. An N-number is not assigned yet.

Interesting that although it's built in Alabama, it still has a French registration.

-J.

Very interesting fact

diburning Sep 11, 2020 5:19 pm


Originally Posted by GW McLintock (Post 32587309)
F-WZMA (msn 10029) had its first flight on July 14th at BFM. This would be the first American-built NEO for JetBlue. An N-number is not assigned yet.

Interesting that although it's built in Alabama, it still has a French registration.

-J.

N2084J. Ferried up to JFK for delivery and storage the day after your post.

GW McLintock Sep 15, 2020 9:01 pm

N2105J (msn 10101) has a new tail scheme and the behind-wing exits deactivated.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a7357ea39a.jpg

-J.

diburning Sep 15, 2020 9:55 pm

Interesting. I wonder why they changed it part of the way through the order? The tail design looks like ocean waves. Could this be the first LR?

GW McLintock Sep 16, 2020 6:39 am


Originally Posted by diburning (Post 32678542)
Interesting. I wonder why they changed it part of the way through the order? The tail design looks like ocean waves. Could this be the first LR?

This will very likely be the first Mint plane. Not sure if it is actually an LR or not.

-J.

diburning Sep 16, 2020 6:44 am

Twitter has already named it Blue Wavy Gravy.

Carfield Sep 16, 2020 7:26 am

I notice the missing windows at where Door 2 used to be... so I think this might be the new Mint aircraft.
I can't wait to see what new Mint product is installed here!


Originally Posted by GW McLintock (Post 32678460)
N2105J (msn 10101) has a new tail scheme and the behind-wing exits deactivated.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a7357ea39a.jpg

-J.



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