New Cabin Design
#16
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 273
I was got downgraded from business class to coach on ANA, due to equipment change. In addition to monetary compensation, I was put in coach with a row of seats block off just for me. (i.e. I was in 15C, 15A & 15 blocked for me)
#17




Join Date: Mar 2011
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This looks like a very interesting and novel approach. I can't think of another example of a 'cabin within a cabin' (except for EMS type seats).
It will be interesting to see what the advantages of the 'suites' are. Clearly privacy, but not sure if there is a difference in service, seat width or bed angle. The bed length appears to be the same, at a generous 6'8''.
From the computer video, the bed appears to be an angled lie-flat. That would put it below the JFK-LAX/SFO trans-con products of AA/UA/DL.
I too am curious about what the 'secret' means. From the computer video it doesn't look much like a galley, and the seat map does show where the galleys are.

My guess is it will be some type of bar, like the BA Club Kitchen or what AA has on their 77W.
It will be interesting to see what the advantages of the 'suites' are. Clearly privacy, but not sure if there is a difference in service, seat width or bed angle. The bed length appears to be the same, at a generous 6'8''.
From the computer video, the bed appears to be an angled lie-flat. That would put it below the JFK-LAX/SFO trans-con products of AA/UA/DL.
I too am curious about what the 'secret' means. From the computer video it doesn't look much like a galley, and the seat map does show where the galleys are.

My guess is it will be some type of bar, like the BA Club Kitchen or what AA has on their 77W.
Last edited by will2288; Aug 4, 2013 at 3:59 pm
#18
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 273
This looks like a very interesting and novel approach. I can't think of another example of a 'cabin within a cabin' (except for EMS type seats).
It will be interesting to see what the advantages of the 'suites' are. Clearly privacy, but not sure if there is a difference in service, seat width or bed angle. The bed length appears to be the same, at a generous 6'8''.
From the computer video, the bed appears to be an angled lie-flat. That would put it below the JFK-LAX/SFO trans-con products of AA/UA/DL.
I too am curious about what the 'secret' means. From the computer video it doesn't look much like a galley, and the seat map does show where the galleys are.
My guess is it will be some type of bar, like the BA Club Kitchen or what AA has on their 77W.
It will be interesting to see what the advantages of the 'suites' are. Clearly privacy, but not sure if there is a difference in service, seat width or bed angle. The bed length appears to be the same, at a generous 6'8''.
From the computer video, the bed appears to be an angled lie-flat. That would put it below the JFK-LAX/SFO trans-con products of AA/UA/DL.
I too am curious about what the 'secret' means. From the computer video it doesn't look much like a galley, and the seat map does show where the galleys are.
My guess is it will be some type of bar, like the BA Club Kitchen or what AA has on their 77W.
understand why people need lie-flat seats on a transcon flights that's only
5 and half hours.
How do those people survive on 15-hour flights?
#19
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1
Wall Street article on New Premium Class on Transcontinental Flights Will Have Lie-Flat Beds, Suites. In case you don't know, copy and paste the title of the article into Google to read the full WSJ article.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...433619930.html
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...433619930.html
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More details available here: http://blog.apex.aero/cabin-interior...-airbus-a321s/.
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#22
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(1) right-click and copy the link below
(2) right-click and paste the link into a Google search box
(3) click on the first result to read the full article
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...433619930.html
#23




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More details available here: http://blog.apex.aero/cabin-interior...-airbus-a321s/.
[W]e are targeting the under-served in the premium market. This includes small business owners and those paying for travel themselves.
This makes sense. On these routes, there really isn't anything between Y+ (say, $250/ow) and J (say, $1000+/ow). I'm interested to see what the B6 premium seats price out at.
Decent pricing and B6 joining Pre-√ will sway a good chunk of my domestic travel, I think.
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That was my guess, too. Whatever it is, it seems oriented towards the Y cabin, as it is across from a lav that seems to serve the forward part of the Y cabin. (There is another lav by 1L that appears to be for the premium cabin.)
#25
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 273
(1) shower for business class passengers
(2) dressing room
(3) espresso station
(4) fully-stocked bar
(5) oven of freshly-made pizza or chocolate cookies
#26




Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: ORD, MIA
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Suites look very cool. Though the video definitely looks like the seats looking angled rather than fully flat. I assume there will be sliding doors that slide close for the 1-1 suites, but the height of the walls doesn't seem high enough for optimum privacy.
Awesome nonetheless!
Awesome nonetheless!
#27
Join Date: Aug 2012
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#28
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 244
Coach
This might be a kind of debbie-downer question, given the exciting news about the premium section and the new seats and entertainment systems throughout the cabin, but...
I was wondering what happens to regular economy seats: Will JetBlue retain the most legroom throughout coach, with about 2" more seat pitch in its regular coach seats vs the other major carriers (and, generally speaking, more room in its Even More Space seats than in other carriers' Economy Plus seats), or will standard coach be compressed a bit to make room for the new premium section?
I was wondering what happens to regular economy seats: Will JetBlue retain the most legroom throughout coach, with about 2" more seat pitch in its regular coach seats vs the other major carriers (and, generally speaking, more room in its Even More Space seats than in other carriers' Economy Plus seats), or will standard coach be compressed a bit to make room for the new premium section?
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This might be a kind of debbie-downer question, given the exciting news about the premium section and the new seats and entertainment systems throughout the cabin, but...
I was wondering what happens to regular economy seats: Will JetBlue retain the most legroom throughout coach, with about 2" more seat pitch in its regular coach seats vs the other major carriers (and, generally speaking, more room in its Even More Space seats than in other carriers' Economy Plus seats), or will standard coach be compressed a bit to make room for the new premium section?
I was wondering what happens to regular economy seats: Will JetBlue retain the most legroom throughout coach, with about 2" more seat pitch in its regular coach seats vs the other major carriers (and, generally speaking, more room in its Even More Space seats than in other carriers' Economy Plus seats), or will standard coach be compressed a bit to make room for the new premium section?
#30
Join Date: Sep 2011
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This looks like a very interesting and novel approach. I can't think of another example of a 'cabin within a cabin' (except for EMS type seats).
It will be interesting to see what the advantages of the 'suites' are. Clearly privacy, but not sure if there is a difference in service, seat width or bed angle. The bed length appears to be the same, at a generous 6'8''.
From the computer video, the bed appears to be an angled lie-flat. That would put it below the JFK-LAX/SFO trans-con products of AA/UA/DL.
It will be interesting to see what the advantages of the 'suites' are. Clearly privacy, but not sure if there is a difference in service, seat width or bed angle. The bed length appears to be the same, at a generous 6'8''.
From the computer video, the bed appears to be an angled lie-flat. That would put it below the JFK-LAX/SFO trans-con products of AA/UA/DL.
The video also looked as though all rows had the sliding doors, but perhaps that was just the CGI. Or perhaps that feature isn't advertised because only those traveling together would utilize such a feature.

