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Originally Posted by SFO777
(Post 33819190)
Pretty sure that there are different rules for GUM since it is just a territory... you even need to clear CBP/customs flying GUM-HNL. A friend has an offices in LA and Guam and transits NRT regularly on a GUM-NRT-LAX routing, both same and separate tickets. Just because UA will sell you a ticket does not mean that they will let you fly the routing... unless you can legally enter Japan. You risk being denied boarding at your outbound US gateway either because you can legally enter Japan or cabotage. But if you decide to go for it, good luck. You may or may not one successful, but I'd recommend having a plan B.
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Originally Posted by SFO777
(Post 33819190)
Pretty sure that there are different rules for GUM since it is just a territory... you even need to clear CBP/customs flying GUM-HNL. A friend has an offices in LA and Guam and transits NRT regularly on a GUM-NRT-LAX routing, both same and separate tickets. Just because UA will sell you a ticket does not mean that they will let you fly the routing... unless you can legally enter Japan. You risk being denied boarding at your outbound US gateway either because you can legally enter Japan or cabotage. But if you decide to go for it, good luck. You may or may not one successful, but I'd recommend having a plan B.
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Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer
(Post 33819245)
True true true, I was quite focused on the cabotage but here. Though the Guam point, I wonder if Japan does actually see that as a separate 3rd country there. Or they are less strict than the printed rules...
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Originally Posted by paine445
(Post 33819262)
At the end of the day, if I get a boarding pass for all flights, then its really up to the EWR gate agent at boarding - once I'm in Japan I'm sure they'd be happy to put me on the LAX flight and away if it is allowed.
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Originally Posted by SFO777
(Post 33819283)
Agree. If you are allowed to board at EWR, you should be good. Getting a boarding pass is easy, getting past the gate dragon is the hard part. ;)
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Originally Posted by vishal407
(Post 33813424)
Hello
travelling from sfo-nrt-Bom on December 23 with 19 hour layover in nrt. Is transit allowed? Will I be able to book a room outside? Please advise thanks v |
Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer
(Post 33820332)
Generally the flights from San Francisco arrive 4pm to 5pm, that plus 19 hours means you have an overnight connection, which is now allowed.
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Originally Posted by nishimark
(Post 33820448)
A typo there. It should read "which is not allowed".
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Originally Posted by SFO777
(Post 33748047)
I am planning a RTW including Narita for late January and wanted to get the collective wisdom on what to expect.
• Flying LAX-NRT in JL First arriving T2 at 16:45 on one ticket. • Connecting to a 22:30 EK departure T2 to DXB on a separate ticket, also in First. From colleagues, pax that try to pull this kind of stunt appear to be detained on the arrival flight until someone comes to figure out Once I'm back in departures, except for Starbucks, is anything open after 6pm... lounges, restos, bars, etc.. since the only two evening departures appear to be EK and QR. EK Lounge is temporarily closed and JL.com says their lounge(s) close at 6:30pm. |
Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer
(Post 33748777)
If you can find a transit desk that can give you your EK boarding pass, pretty good as EK uses the JAL lounges in Narita at the moment.
A few tidbits from this journey so far: I'm in NRT now transferring from JL to EK. At the transfer desk I was issued a meal voucher for 3500 JPY, but there was only 10 minutes to use it at the only restaurant open in the terminal before it closed. I showed up at the JAL lounge asking if I could get in either on the basis of my EK flight or the inbound JL flight; answer was no; need a same day departing flight on oneworld to gain access. I considered booking a throwaway or fully refundable ticket on the QR flight just to access the lounge but decided against it. SFO777 there's literally nothing to do in the terminal after 18h30, it's completely dead. Nothing is open after that time except maybe one duty free shop depending on what day of the week it is. On the plus side, I was able to check in luggage to DXB on this trip thanks to the very helpful JL staff in LAX :tu: |
Originally Posted by YYCCL3
(Post 33823028)
I'm not sure where you heard this, but sadly it's incorrect, at least it was earlier in the year and again at the present time.
A few tidbits from this journey so far: I'm in NRT now transferring from JL to EK. At the transfer desk I was issued a meal voucher for 3500 JPY, but there was only 10 minutes to use it at the only restaurant open in the terminal before it closed. I showed up at the JAL lounge asking if I could get in either on the basis of my EK flight or the inbound JL flight; answer was no; need a same day departing flight on oneworld to gain access. I considered booking a throwaway or fully refundable ticket on the QR flight just to access the lounge but decided against it. SFO777 there's literally nothing to do in the terminal after 18h30, it's completely dead. Nothing is open after that time except maybe one duty free shop depending on what day of the week it is. On the plus side, I was able to check in luggage to DXB on this trip thanks to the very helpful JL staff in LAX :tu: |
Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer
(Post 33823041)
Interesting, I have certainly encountered Emirates passengers in the JAL lounge in Narita. But it might have been that the JAL lounge closed early compared to the Emirates flight it. If the last JAL flight was around 6pm to 7pm they might not have been wanting to stay open for the Emirates flight around 10pm.
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Originally Posted by YYCCL3
(Post 33823046)
The sign at the lounge entrance indicates they're now open until 10 PM. It made me very hopeful.
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Originally Posted by YYCCL3
(Post 33823028)
I'm not sure where you heard this, but sadly it's incorrect, at least it was earlier in the year and again at the present time.
A few tidbits from this journey so far: I'm in NRT now transferring from JL to EK. At the transfer desk I was issued a meal voucher for 3500 JPY, but there was only 10 minutes to use it at the only restaurant open in the terminal before it closed. I showed up at the JAL lounge asking if I could get in either on the basis of my EK flight or the inbound JL flight; answer was no; need a same day departing flight on oneworld to gain access. I considered booking a throwaway or fully refundable ticket on the QR flight just to access the lounge but decided against it. SFO777 there's literally nothing to do in the terminal after 18h30, it's completely dead. Nothing is open after that time except maybe one duty free shop depending on what day of the week it is. On the plus side, I was able to check in luggage to DXB on this trip thanks to the very helpful JL staff in LAX :tu: |
Originally Posted by paine445
(Post 33818955)
Thanks guys - going to be doing something instead like EWR-NRT-LAX. All on one UA ticket. Will make sure to update how things go! :-)
Happy to be the lab rat :P Now realizing I can do a lot better PQP/MR's and maybe 25 hours of travel isn't worth it during COVID especially. Cheers guys. For reference, I was not questioned at check-in, just at boarding. Appreciate the insights and all - hopefully will get to go through NRT on some tourism post-covid :) |
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