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johnsw1988 Dec 19, 2021 6:19 am


Originally Posted by paine445 (Post 33824009)
they also said during COVID they have multiple boarding denials a day (someone was even pulled off plane today....) due to confusion and misunderstandings about docs checks and rules. They made it clear it wasn't United/their fault and rather the government rules - did confirm Guam was good of course as a destination, except that it was full

I’m curious what docs check confusion it was. I’m thinking doing mainland to Guam via NRT. You said it should be a good/valid routing and good to go. What happens when the flight from NRT to Guam is sold out since people can’t enter Japan right now? Will it get denied boarding as well in The US rather than fly to Tokyo and get stuck there until the next day departure to Guam?

paperwastage Dec 19, 2021 6:37 am


Originally Posted by johnsw1988 (Post 33825751)
I’m curious what docs check confusion it was. I’m thinking doing mainland to Guam via NRT. You said it should be a good/valid routing and good to go. What happens when the flight from NRT to Guam is sold out since people can’t enter Japan right now? Will it get denied boarding as well in The US rather than fly to Tokyo and get stuck there until the next day departure to Guam?

If you have a confirmed ticket to Guam, you'll be ok as long as you follow whatever's in Timatic (need passport, technically you need an antigen test to enter usa etc)

If something happens (eg nrt-guam gets cancelled, or your inbound to NRT delayed and you can't catch Guam flight) then you either

1) get stopped in CONUSA (rescheduled to next available day)

2) stuck in a room overnight at NRT (see the example of multi day NRT airside layover due to PCR test requirements of final country).

bryanwallace Dec 20, 2021 4:30 pm

for going from japan to usa does anyone know of a cheap testing location that is valid for us entry ?seems narita is 30000yen!

johnsw1988 Dec 20, 2021 5:51 pm


Originally Posted by bryanwallace (Post 33830106)
for going from japan to usa does anyone know of a cheap testing location that is valid for us entry ?seems narita is 30000yen!

If you are based in the US, just order binaxNow with eMed by Abbott. This is an antigen at home kit that is proctored. About $30-40 per box. You get the result in 15 mins and it is valid for re-entry into the US.

My local library is giving this out away for free. I live in Northern Virginia. But in the past, I ordered them from Optum Store online. But be mindful about the expiration date.

paperwastage Dec 20, 2021 5:51 pm


Originally Posted by bryanwallace (Post 33830106)
for going from japan to usa does anyone know of a cheap testing location that is valid for us entry ?seems narita is 30000yen!

see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/japa...an-travel.html



I believe the current usa entry rule is COVID test within one calendar day from your flight (eg Tuesday 5pm flight, your test can be taken anytime on Monday). You should check

bryanwallace Dec 20, 2021 7:32 pm


Originally Posted by johnsw1988 (Post 33830285)
If you are based in the US, just order binaxNow with eMed by Abbott. This is an antigen at home kit that is proctored. About $30-40 per box. You get the result in 15 mins and it is valid for re-entry into the US.

My local library is giving this out away for free. I live in Northern Virginia. But in the past, I ordered them from Optum Store online. But be mindful about the expiration date.

thanks-i thought for us entry someone had to watch the test as you did it to validate it?you need a certificate as well i believe...

paperwastage Dec 20, 2021 7:48 pm


Originally Posted by bryanwallace (Post 33830507)
thanks-i thought for us entry someone had to watch the test as you did it to validate it?you need a certificate as well i believe...

The binaxnow emed includes online video monitoring of the test (plus certificate)

(Same test kit sells at walmart, binaxnow 2 tests @ $14. But no monitoring and hence Walmart vrsion doesn't qualify for usa entry)

bryanwallace Dec 20, 2021 9:23 pm

i see-thanks for letting me know-is it easy to get an appointment?

i

johnsw1988 Dec 21, 2021 7:05 pm

No appointment needed - just call the number. last time I used it around thanksgiving, there wasn’t any wait time when calling. Make sure you register/create account first, and don’t open the box unless instructed so. Also I didn’t even use a computer, just my iPhone. They will watch/proctor you while waiting for the 15 mins. Once done, they will send you the certificate of negative test to your email.

be sure to get binaxnow with eMed. Their branding is a bit confusing because one with eMed (good for travel, and the box is like navy color), and the other is self test (no proctor, no certificate, I think the box is like light blue color).


Originally Posted by bryanwallace (Post 33830687)
i see-thanks for letting me know-is it easy to get an appointment?

i


ctexas15 Dec 22, 2021 9:24 am


Originally Posted by SFO777 (Post 33818975)
Won’t work. You can’t fly US-Japan-US just as you can’t fly Canada-Japan-Canada. Hence the previous suggestion to fly Canada-Japan-US which would be an acceptable routing.


Originally Posted by paine445 (Post 33819068)
Won't work as in UA will see it as a destination of Japan? United's Travel-Ready Center took it as a Japan transit, EWR-NRT-LAX. Will keep the Canada-Japan-US suggestion in mind!

Following up on the discussion from above... Does this mean that a DFW-LAX-NRT-YVR-DFW would be possible on JAL (with DFW-LAX and YVR-DFW on AA)? I understand it would likely still be up to the desk/gate agents, but per the "third country" rules?

CPH-Flyer Dec 22, 2021 12:22 pm


Originally Posted by ctexas15 (Post 33835025)
Following up on the discussion from above... Does this mean that a DFW-LAX-NRT-YVR-DFW would be possible on JAL (with DFW-LAX and YVR-DFW on AA)? I understand it would likely still be up to the desk/gate agents, but per the "third country" rules?

I wonder if that would not hit a cabotage issue. US to US on a non US carrier.... But at least in terms of the Narita transit, it would be to a third country

ctexas15 Dec 22, 2021 12:37 pm


Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer (Post 33835516)
I wonder if that would not hit a cabotage issue. US to US on a non US carrier.... But at least in terms of the Narita transit, it would be to a third country

Would the same potential cabotage rules apply on a "round trip" ticket vs. a "multi-city" ticket? With all flights being the same, would the system look at them differently?

On a similar note, would the NRT transit be looked at differently on a "round trip" ticket vs. a "multi-city" ticket?

SFO777 Dec 22, 2021 10:10 pm


Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer (Post 33835516)
I wonder if that would not hit a cabotage issue. US to US on a non US carrier.... But at least in terms of the Narita transit, it would be to a third country


Originally Posted by ctexas15 (Post 33835554)
Would the same potential cabotage rules apply on a "round trip" ticket vs. a "multi-city" ticket? With all flights being the same, would the system look at them differently? On a similar note, would the NRT transit be looked at differently on a "round trip" ticket vs. a "multi-city" ticket?

Your odds are slim IMO. IF you made it to NRT, I don’t see a problem. Your challenge is going to be whether you will be allow to board at DFW or LAX. You are on a US to US ticket and not permitted to enter Japan. If you had a YVR stopover or your ticket was DFW-LAX-NRT-YVR, then no problem.

washeelers747 Dec 30, 2021 7:41 am

I got one way ANA F award ticket JFK-HND, and no idea what Japan will do about tourists in September. I know no one will know what happens in September. Let's say Japan don't open. Is it easy for me to get seperate ticket with JAL in transit after arriving HND via ANA flight? Any experiences with ANA-JAL separate ticket in HND during pandemic era? Thanks!

CPH-Flyer Dec 30, 2021 9:05 am


Originally Posted by washeelers747 (Post 33854949)
I got one way ANA F award ticket JFK-HND, and no idea what Japan will do about tourists in September. I know no one will know what happens in September. Let's say Japan don't open. Is it easy for me to get seperate ticket with JAL in transit after arriving HND via ANA flight? Any experiences with ANA-JAL separate ticket in HND during pandemic era? Thanks!

Separate tickets to a 3rd country is generally not an issue. Just max 24 hours in Haneda, and no movement to Narita.


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