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jib71 Mar 13, 2023 2:15 pm


Originally Posted by hawkfan7314 (Post 35084568)
Same as the US

Similar in that there are no customs or immigration inspections. Unlike some US airports, the baggage carousels are in the sterile area.
If you fly ANA domestic to HND, you might have a long walk after you deplane. You will collect your bags, and then leave the sterile area through a one-way door. (You cannot go back to the baggage carousel after you leave the sterile area). Then you will take a shuttle bus or monorail to the International Terminal.

I think 2.5 hours for a connection from Domestic to International is do-able, but if your flight to HND is delayed by an hour, you will miss the window to check luggage. I think AA check-in desks will close an hour before departure.

ttuna3 Mar 13, 2023 3:50 pm

hawkfan7314

Are you on one ticket or separate tickets? You should be able to check your bags through to LAX.
I'm not so sure if that ANA will do it to a non *A carrier otherwise.

CPH-Flyer Mar 13, 2023 4:41 pm


Originally Posted by ttuna3 (Post 35084912)
hawkfan7314

Are you on one ticket or separate tickets? You should be able to check your bags through to LAX.
I'm not so sure if that ANA will do it to a non *A carrier otherwise.

Same ticket it will happen, separate tickets on domestic Japan even to non alliance carriers will probably happen. JAL does not serve Iwakuni, so keeping it in the family is not an option. But also why JANA is usually quite good at getting luggage from domestic flights to non alliance carriers, there are quite a few regional airports split between the two.

And no, not to various LCCs.

yoyo Mar 14, 2023 5:37 am

Just noticed this thread after I posted in a seperate thread:

I bought seperate tickets for JFK-NRT-HGH, first leg on JL and second on ANA with 25 hour transit. Does anyone know if JL allows boarding (US greencard, Chinese passport) without visa so that I can apply transit visa on arrival at NRT? Is PCR test result required? Also does JL handle luggage interline with ANA ? Thanks.

CPH-Flyer Mar 14, 2023 6:08 am


Originally Posted by yoyo (Post 35086230)
Just noticed this thread after I posted in a seperate thread:

I bought seperate tickets for JFK-NRT-HGH, first leg on JL and second on ANA with 25 hour transit. Does anyone know if JL allows boarding (US greencard, Chinese passport) without visa so that I can apply transit visa on arrival at NRT? Is PCR test result required? Also does JL handle luggage interline with ANA ? Thanks.

You can either get a transit visa by contact the Japanese embassy or consulate, or you can get a shore pass via your airline. But as you are on separate tickets, you will probably have to for for the transit visa option. But you'd need to talk to JAL and/or the embassy to know.

Since your connection is above 24 hours you will need to need to reclaim luggage and recheck the next day.

Generally, if you enter Japan, you either need a boosted vaccination or a PCR test.

yoyo Mar 14, 2023 6:15 am


Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer (Post 35086305)
You can either get a transit visa by contact the Japanese embassy or consulate, or you can get a shore pass via your airline. But as you are on separate tickets, you will probably have to for for the transit visa option. But you'd need to talk to JAL and/or the embassy to know.

Since your connection is above 24 hours you will need to need to reclaim luggage and recheck the next day.

Generally, if you enter Japan, you either need a boosted vaccination or a PCR test.

thank you. i will call JL.

YariGuy Mar 15, 2023 3:14 am


Originally Posted by fly046 (Post 34977494)
I can't be the only one this happens to and yet I haven't seen this mentioned during my research:

I recently booked the Royal Park Haneda Transit for a family member trying to keep an overnight layover super simple. Only that I booked the landside one instead. This seems to happen often enough that they have a process to escort visitors past security without VJW which is what happened in this case (including a second unrelated guest).

So my mistake appears to be that the booking function for Royal Park Haneda Transit is tucked away at the very bottom of the Transit Area page. The transit booking process includes a transit area disclaimer and the only plans are 6 and 12 hours. The other standout feature is it's very booked.

Everything else will book the landside part.

Do I have this right this time around?

I have a ~15 hour layover in HND -- will be flying PVG-HND-LAX. Flights are sold by JL, but the HND-LAX portion is on AA metal.

I'm trying to decide whether to use the Royal Park (air side) or exit the airport. I'm leaning towards the transit hotel because I'm landing at night (8:30pm) and will have a 12 year-old kid with me. Other factors / questions I have:
  • The hotel's lounge is still not open
  • Seems like airside restaurants all close around 9 or 10pm -- will I be able to get a nice meal?
Another option is the newly-opened Villa Fontaine. Seems like it's connected to Terminal 3, but I'll have to go through immigration with the associated hassles of filling out the VFW. What would you do?

fly046 Mar 16, 2023 1:22 pm

The Mrs’ flight arrived late and by the time she was escorted over to the landside transit hotel everything but the Air Lawson on the first floor was closed. You may have more options since you arrive earlier both land- and airside, but others would know better about that. All I would say is optimizing things to try and stay airside does not seem particularly worth it to us and the Villa Fontaine would be the first thing I would consider next time assuming we still prefer not to leave the airport.

YariGuy Mar 16, 2023 8:26 pm


Originally Posted by fly046 (Post 35092695)
The Mrs’ flight arrived late and by the time she was escorted over to the landside transit hotel everything but the Air Lawson on the first floor was closed. You may have more options since you arrive earlier both land- and airside, but others would know better about that. All I would say is optimizing things to try and stay airside does not seem particularly worth it to us and the Villa Fontaine would be the first thing I would consider next time assuming we still prefer not to leave the airport.

I think you're right. I'm leaning towards entering Japan and staying at the Villa Fontaine now. Similar price, but much better environment and food choices.

Also, to confirm, there are technically 2 hotels, the Villa Fontaine Grand and Villa Fontaine Premier. My understanding is that they're at the same location, but just better room for the Premier. Is that correct?

Danstar Mar 18, 2023 5:02 pm

Hi,

hope I'm right in this thread with my question.

I have a international flight booked with a depature at midnight from HND. I still need book a flight to HND to for the connection on a different ticket. I'm trying not to spend to much time at HND but plenty enough to have a secure connection and I will be travelling with checked bags.

So one option would be a planned arrival at 6:35 p.m. and the other would be 5:45 p.m. - any guess on what might be the better option? I'm a little bit concerned regarding the immigration time or do both option have plenty of time to have a relaxed transfer?

Thanks!

CPH-Flyer Mar 18, 2023 5:10 pm


Originally Posted by Danstar (Post 35098027)
Hi,

hope I'm right in this thread with my question.

I have a international flight booked with a depature at midnight from HND. I still need book a flight to HND to for the connection on a different ticket. I'm trying not to spend to much time at HND but plenty enough to have a secure connection and I will be travelling with checked bags.

So one option would be a planned arrival at 6:35 p.m. and the other would be 5:45 p.m. - any guess on what might be the better option? I'm a little bit concerned regarding the immigration time or do both option have plenty of time to have a relaxed transfer?

Thanks!

It is not a given you have to do immigration between the two flights, it depends on the specific airlines in question, whether you have checked luggage, and probably a few other pieces of the puzzle. If you can put specific airlines to your proposed arrival flights, and departure flight, it would be easier to advice.

nishimark Mar 18, 2023 11:21 pm

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Danstar Mar 19, 2023 5:32 am


Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer (Post 35098048)
It is not a given you have to do immigration between the two flights, it depends on the specific airlines in question, whether you have checked luggage, and probably a few other pieces of the puzzle. If you can put specific airlines to your proposed arrival flights, and departure flight, it would be easier to advice.

I'm flying EK313 at 00:05 a.m. from HND to DXB and my options would be flying in would be NH852 with an arrival at HND at 5:45 p.m. or JL98 with an arrival at 6:35 p.m.
I would have checked bags and thats why I was thinking of choosing the JL flight because they have a codeshare agreement mit Emirates but on the other hand if this does not work the time between the flights is nearly 1 hour closer... The main problem is that the two flights will be on seperated tickets... Thanks for your help!

Danstar Mar 20, 2023 9:34 am


Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer (Post 35098048)
It is not a given you have to do immigration between the two flights, it depends on the specific airlines in question, whether you have checked luggage, and probably a few other pieces of the puzzle. If you can put specific airlines to your proposed arrival flights, and departure flight, it would be easier to advice.

I do have luggage and the outbound flight from HND is EK 313 and I was thinking about taking NH852 with an arrival 5:45 p.m. arrival in HND or JL98 with an 6:35 p.m. arrival in HND. I was thinking that the JL flight might be a little bit better because they also have a codeshare with Emirates and I was hopping that even though I have two tickets they might be able to check trough my luggage... on the other hand I'm a little bit concerned whether the window for the transfer might be a little bit too tight esp. when they can't check my luggage trhough the whole way...
Any suggestions for that?

hawkfan7314 Mar 20, 2023 12:45 pm


Originally Posted by ttuna3 (Post 35084912)
hawkfan7314

Are you on one ticket or separate tickets? You should be able to check your bags through to LAX.
I'm not so sure if that ANA will do it to a non *A carrier otherwise.

Separate tickets ANA from IWK to HND. AA from HND to conus.


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