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#242
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Goodness, I am soooo far away from writing the date every day that I added another year onto this one. Subliminally I must be desperate to put as much distance between last year and this year as possible.
Oops! Next year is the once a century Setsubun. Got it!
Oops! Next year is the once a century Setsubun. Got it!
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Actually, after considering this I think that Setsubun no hi coinciding with 2.2.2 or 2.2.22 will be vanishingly rare in both Western and Japanese calendars, because setsubun no hi usually falls on February 3rd. This year's February 2nd setsubun is a "once in four years" kind of exception to keep the date aligned with the start of spring as determined by the orbit of the earth around the sun. The calendar gets whacked into alignment with the seasons by means of a leap day every four years (with additional fine adjustments that we don't need to get into here).
In 2022, setsubun no hi will fall on Thursday, February 3rd.
Last year's setsubun no hi was Reiwa 2.2.3 and it was not a palindrome.
From next year, setsubun no hi will fall on February 3rd except in years that follow leap years, when it will fall on February 2nd:
https://dengekionline.com/articles/61893/
I can't get my head around how it is that setsubun no hi can fall on February 4th, but it sometimes does - In 1984, the vernal equinox first day of spring fell on February 5th and shunbun no hi was the preceding February 4th.
In 2022, setsubun no hi will fall on Thursday, February 3rd.
Last year's setsubun no hi was Reiwa 2.2.3 and it was not a palindrome.
From next year, setsubun no hi will fall on February 3rd except in years that follow leap years, when it will fall on February 2nd:
https://dengekionline.com/articles/61893/
I can't get my head around how it is that setsubun no hi can fall on February 4th, but it sometimes does - In 1984, the
Last edited by jib71; Feb 6, 2021 at 12:34 am
#245
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You’ve fully answered (beautifully!) the question I didn’t understand enough to have asked.
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For clarification, there is risshun which is determined by the position of the sun and setsubun is the day before risshun.
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I see, so during 2013, 2014, 2017 & 2018 risshun fell on the 3rd February which would have meant Setsubun was on the 2nd. These were formative years for LapChild and I would have paid more attention to this annual observance than I ever had before, I see where I got the notion that it was a 2.2 event now. What a ninny!
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From 1985 to 2019 russhun fell on the 4th of February so setsubun was on the 3rd.It has to do with leap days in the Gregorian calendar. There is a chart on Wikipedia (in Japanese). Setsubun is on the 2nd in 2021 (令和3年) and the previous time was in 1897 (明治30年). Setsubun was on the 5th in 1984 and the next time is in 2104.
At least I have something to keep me challenged this lock down, its going to take me a while to get my head around all (or rather the pertinent parts of) this.
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That chart for risshun is quite different from the English one, the four years I mentioned were on the 3rd February but observed in Japan on the 4th.
At least I have something to keep me challenged this lock down, it’s going to take me a while to get my head around all (or rather the pertinent parts of) this.
At least I have something to keep me challenged this lock down, it’s going to take me a while to get my head around all (or rather the pertinent parts of) this.
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We are resigned to the idea of no Japan visit this year. What I am not resigned to, having had such a success with it last year, is not having Shiso (green perilla).
I popped some seeds in the freezer for a night a couple of weeks ago and put them in some little pots to germinate, indoors by our bedroom window. They’re just starting to come out, but I’ll leave them to get hardier before I put them in flower pots outside as slugs and snails love them when they are young and tender (Shiso will resist them as well as caterpillars fine once they get a bit bigger).
I’d like to cordially invite everyone reading this who enjoys Japanese food and cooking at home to plant some of this delicious and versatile herb. If you’re in the Northern side of the world, there should still be some time, even if you haven’t yet ordered it. The seeds are easily available.
I popped some seeds in the freezer for a night a couple of weeks ago and put them in some little pots to germinate, indoors by our bedroom window. They’re just starting to come out, but I’ll leave them to get hardier before I put them in flower pots outside as slugs and snails love them when they are young and tender (Shiso will resist them as well as caterpillars fine once they get a bit bigger).
I’d like to cordially invite everyone reading this who enjoys Japanese food and cooking at home to plant some of this delicious and versatile herb. If you’re in the Northern side of the world, there should still be some time, even if you haven’t yet ordered it. The seeds are easily available.
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We are resigned to the idea of no Japan visit this year. What I am not resigned to, having had such a success with it last year, is not having Shiso (green perilla).
Id like to cordially invite everyone reading this who enjoys Japanese food and cooking at home to plant some of this delicious and versatile herb. If youre in the Northern side of the world, there should still be some time, even if you havent yet ordered it. The seeds are easily available.
Id like to cordially invite everyone reading this who enjoys Japanese food and cooking at home to plant some of this delicious and versatile herb. If youre in the Northern side of the world, there should still be some time, even if you havent yet ordered it. The seeds are easily available.
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https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32598679-post184.html
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We are resigned to the idea of no Japan visit this year. What I am not resigned to, having had such a success with it last year, is not having Shiso (green perilla).
I popped some seeds in the freezer for a night a couple of weeks ago and put them in some little pots to germinate, indoors by our bedroom window. Theyre just starting to come out, but Ill leave them to get hardier before I put them in flower pots outside as slugs and snails love them when they are young and tender (Shiso will resist them as well as caterpillars fine once they get a bit bigger).
Id like to cordially invite everyone reading this who enjoys Japanese food and cooking at home to plant some of this delicious and versatile herb. If youre in the Northern side of the world, there should still be some time, even if you havent yet ordered it. The seeds are easily available.
I popped some seeds in the freezer for a night a couple of weeks ago and put them in some little pots to germinate, indoors by our bedroom window. Theyre just starting to come out, but Ill leave them to get hardier before I put them in flower pots outside as slugs and snails love them when they are young and tender (Shiso will resist them as well as caterpillars fine once they get a bit bigger).
Id like to cordially invite everyone reading this who enjoys Japanese food and cooking at home to plant some of this delicious and versatile herb. If youre in the Northern side of the world, there should still be some time, even if you havent yet ordered it. The seeds are easily available.
Thanks for the reminder! Time to buy some green shiso seeds https://www.chopstickchronicles.com/...loring%20agent.
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Thanks for the reminder! Time to buy some green shiso seeds https://www.chopstickchronicles.com/...loring%20agent.

