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oigsq Jan 15, 2018 7:33 am

Thank you evergrn, SQ319, and mrploddy! Yes, these are separate tickets - the HIJ to NRT flight was booked via ANA, but it says it's an IBEX operated flight. Sounds like everyone is in agreement that we should be fine as long as there are no substantial delays (fingers crossed). Worst case scenario and the HIJ flight is delayed, does that mean I have to purchase another full fare ticket on JAL - do airlines offer any type of concession when a connecting flight (on a separate ticket) causes you to miss your flight? Thanks again for all your insight.

jib71 Jan 15, 2018 5:05 pm


Originally Posted by oigsq (Post 29289457)
I imagine ANA will not be able to check our bags through to NYC, so that means we will have to get our checked luggage and go through security/immigration at NRT

I think you may be able to check the luggage at HIJ all the way through onto your international flight out of NRT. Check with the airline.

JamesBigglesworth Jan 15, 2018 11:57 pm


Originally Posted by oigsq (Post 29294853)
do airlines offer any type of concession when a connecting flight (on a separate ticket) causes you to miss your flight?


Travel insurance exists for a reason. :) Buy a policy that covers your potential need.

mrploddy Jan 16, 2018 6:54 am


Originally Posted by jib71 (Post 29297113)
I think you may be able to check the luggage at HIJ all the way through onto your international flight out of NRT. Check with the airline.

You can ask but don't count on it.

If it was an ANA flight then yes but not ANA group (IBEX is a LCC partnered up with ANA) .

I would strongly suspect you will have to collect bags be prepared.

evergrn Jan 16, 2018 10:22 am


Originally Posted by mrploddy (Post 29299049)
You can ask but don't count on it.

If it was an ANA flight then yes but not ANA group (IBEX is a LCC partnered up with ANA) .

I would strongly suspect you will have to collect bags be prepared.

It's definitely workth asking.
I know NH and JL used to have interline agreement. Maybe they still do.
But even if NH can check bags through to JL, it doesn't mean you're protected in case NH runs late and you miss the JL connecting flight.

oigsq Jan 16, 2018 5:11 pm

Thanks for the insight guys. Just as an FYI to others...I in fact purchased travel insurance given the cost of this trip. When I called Nationwide to confirm that I would be covered if my HIJ flight was late and I missed the JAL flight home, the representative told me I was SOL. The "delayed flight" coverage only kicks in if a flight is delayed more than 4 hours. Apparently, that's buried in the fine print somewhere. So, for all those folks that think they're covered just because they bought insurance, learn from my mistake and carefully read all 57 pages of your contract.

LCUF Jan 16, 2018 10:18 pm


Originally Posted by oigsq (Post 29301519)
Thanks for the insight guys. Just as an FYI to others...I in fact purchased travel insurance given the cost of this trip. When I called Nationwide to confirm that I would be covered if my HIJ flight was late and I missed the JAL flight home, the representative told me I was SOL. The "delayed flight" coverage only kicks in if a flight is delayed more than 4 hours. Apparently, that's buried in the fine print somewhere. So, for all those folks that think they're covered just because they bought insurance, learn from my mistake and carefully read all 57 pages of your contract.

Such is the risk of booking separate tickets, hopefully you won't get delayed! And yeah, that sums it up for anything insurance related. Always fineprints. The don't make it easy.

CPH-Flyer Jan 18, 2018 12:38 am


Originally Posted by oigsq (Post 29289457)
New international traveler, and a little nervous about a connection...We will be flying from Hiroshima to Narita on Thursday, March 29 to catch a flight back to New York. Our Flight from HIJ to NRT is on ANA and arrives at 4:00pm. Our flight from NRT to JFK is on JAL and departs at 6:30p. There are two of us, both with checked baggage. It appears we will arrive at a different terminal than we depart from, and I imagine ANA will not be able to check our bags through to NYC, so that means we will have to get our checked luggage and go through security/immigration at NRT. Is 2.5 hours enough time to claim bags, transfer terminals, and process through security? If not, our only other option on ANA (which will likely incur a significant change fee) is fly into HND, arriving around lunchtime, then taking a bus or train to NRT. Not sure if it matters, but we are flying biz on JAL (economy on ANA). I appreciate any guidance.

Hiroshima to Narita is a codeshare on IBEX. Though check in will be processed at the ANA counters when sold as an NH code. I am reasonably certain that ANA will be able to check your luggage thriough to JAL, even on a seperate ticket. I have not tested this, but the service levels for domestic Japan is pretty high when it comes to these sort of things.

Even if you do not succeed in checking through luggage, 2.5 hours should be fine. Narita is efficient, and the inter terminal bus runs frequently.

Central90210 Jan 18, 2018 6:29 pm


Originally Posted by evergrn (Post 28653696)
JAL can tag it all the way through to KIX if you ask them, but you'll have to pick it up upon arrival at HND for customs anyways and drop it back off.

I agree with nishimark. I would just fly to Hiroshima the next day.

I have a similar scenario - flying to NRT on CX and then transfering to JAL domestic to ITM on two separate tickets. Provided that CX is willing to tag my bags in HKG all the way to ITM, I still need to collect my bags from the carousel and go though customs correct?

I’m just afraid international arrivals bags to ITM will not show up in NRT and will be lost forever. I gathered on Narita’s website that there is no transfer baggage drop off point after customs ala North American airports, so I will basically have to check my bags again from the landside domestic departure halls?

This is my first time transferring International to Domestic in Japan, so thanks in advance!

rustykettel Jan 18, 2018 7:25 pm

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Originally Posted by Central90210 (Post 29310867)


I have a similar scenario - flying to NRT on CX and then transfering to JAL domestic to ITM on two separate tickets. Provided that CX is willing to tag my bags in HKG all the way to ITM, I still need to collect my bags from the carousel and go though customs correct?

I’m just afraid international arrivals bags to ITM will not show up in NRT and will be lost forever. I gathered on Narita’s website that there is no transfer baggage drop off point after customs ala North American airports, so I will basically have to check my bags again from the landside domestic departure halls?

This is my first time transferring International to Domestic in Japan, so thanks in advance!

Yes to the first and no to the second! You'll collect your bags, even if checked through, after immigration and before customs. CX arrives in Terminal 2, JAL domestic also departs Terminal 2. After you exit customs, turn left, there's the JAL domestic check in counter.

See
https://www.narita-airport.jp/en/map?terminal=2&map=14
https://www.jal.co.jp/en/inter/airport/nrt/transit/

The greyed out portion in the map below is the exit from customs. You'll probably walk longer from your gate to immigration than to the domestic counter.

Central90210 Jan 18, 2018 8:08 pm


Originally Posted by rustykettel (Post 29311040)
Yes to the first and no to the second! You'll collect your bags, even if checked through, after immigration and before customs. CX arrives in Terminal 2, JAL domestic also departs Terminal 2. After you exit customs, turn left, there's the JAL domestic check in counter.

See
https://www.narita-airport.jp/en/map?terminal=2&map=14
https://www.jal.co.jp/en/inter/airport/nrt/transit/

The greyed out portion in the map below is the exit from customs. You'll probably walk longer from your gate to immigration than to the domestic counter.

Thanks a lot, I guess I’ll just tag my bags to NRT instead of ITM and re-check/ re-tag my bags to ITM at NRT, since either way I still have to collect my bags at NRT and go through customs.

rustykettel Jan 18, 2018 10:14 pm


Originally Posted by Central90210 (Post 29311152)


Thanks a lot, I guess I’ll just tag my bags to NRT instead of ITM and re-check/ re-tag my bags to ITM at NRT, since either way I still have to collect my bags at NRT and go through customs.

Might as well get CX to tag them all the way through, if they will. JAL's domestic allowance is less generous weight wise than CX longhaul, plus saves a couple minutes of printing new bag tags.

https://www.jal.co.jp/en/dom/baggage/checked/

https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_...c-flights.html

Central90210 Jan 19, 2018 2:23 am


Originally Posted by rustykettel (Post 29311457)
Might as well get CX to tag them all the way through, if they will. JAL's domestic allowance is less generous weight wise than CX longhaul, plus saves a couple minutes of printing new bag tags.

https://www.jal.co.jp/en/dom/baggage/checked/

https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_...c-flights.html

Thank you rustykettel, very helpful!

rustykettel Jan 19, 2018 8:48 am


Originally Posted by Central90210 (Post 29311822)


Thank you rustykettel, very helpful!

You're most welcome! I suppose there's always a chance with the separate tickets that the JAL agent might charge if overweight but I think that's a remote possibility if it's already tagged.

Allan Kato Jan 28, 2018 7:56 am

Int'l to Domestic transfer at KIX
 
My family (wife, 7-yr old child) and I are booked on one ticket aboard Jetstar mid-March from MNL-CTS, with a 2.5-hour transit at KIX T1.

Our ETA at KIX is 0530 and ETD for CTS is at 0800. I understand that at KIX we have to clear immigration, retrieve our luggage, clear customs, then check-in at the domestic desk located on another floor. I've heard that the immigration lines at KIX are horrible (I've never arrived in Japan at KIX).

Is the 2.5-hour transit feasible? Any tips so we can speed things up a bit? In case we don't make our connection, will Jetstar put us through to the next flight to CTS without any added charges?

Any inputs would be greatly appreciated.


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