Early arrival Haneda
Jun 23, 2013 | 1:38 am
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Early arrival Haneda
I am flying LHR to Haneda with BA arriving at 4.55am. I asked my hotel (ANA Intercontinental) if I could pay extra for an early arrival (from 7.00) but although they were very helpful they want to charge a whole night.
How do other people handle this early arrival? I am worried jet lag might ruin my whole trip.
How do other people handle this early arrival? I am worried jet lag might ruin my whole trip.
Jun 23, 2013 | 3:18 am
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That's pretty annoying that the hotel wants to charge a whole night. I've been allowed to check into hotels in early morning in US, HKG, etc. Hotels in Japan are notorious for their lack of flexibility with extending check-out time. But I don't see why they should care about early check-in if the room is available already.
Anyways, there's a capsule hotel type place (actually more like tiny bedrooms than capsules) called First Cabin at HND where they have "short stay" option in which you pay for the room by the hour. I just checked their website, though, and it says the period of 7p-10a is for the overnight use only. So I'm not sure if that's an option for you. And it's in the domestic terminal.
Anyways, there's a capsule hotel type place (actually more like tiny bedrooms than capsules) called First Cabin at HND where they have "short stay" option in which you pay for the room by the hour. I just checked their website, though, and it says the period of 7p-10a is for the overnight use only. So I'm not sure if that's an option for you. And it's in the domestic terminal.
Jun 23, 2013 | 11:26 am
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By not taking a flight from Europe that arrives in the early morning!
I guess that not being able to sleep will crack the jet-lag, cold turkey style. But if you could nap like 6 am to 9 or 10 am then it would be the best option for such an arrival. But make sure that you get up!
I don't think any hotel anywhere could charge you for an early arrival. If you want it guaranteed then pay for an extra night; that's standard. I suppose a hotel that has a day rate could charge you for that; that's an airport type thing, however.
But Japanese hotels are indeed inflexible, so they might not let you just because check-in starts at 14:00. I have no idea but it wouldn't surprise me.
I guess that not being able to sleep will crack the jet-lag, cold turkey style. But if you could nap like 6 am to 9 or 10 am then it would be the best option for such an arrival. But make sure that you get up!
I don't think any hotel anywhere could charge you for an early arrival. If you want it guaranteed then pay for an extra night; that's standard. I suppose a hotel that has a day rate could charge you for that; that's an airport type thing, however.
But Japanese hotels are indeed inflexible, so they might not let you just because check-in starts at 14:00. I have no idea but it wouldn't surprise me.
Jun 23, 2013 | 11:34 am
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Check this thread.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/japan...-now-open.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/japan...-now-open.html
Jun 23, 2013 | 2:40 pm
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Most hotels will let you check in that early if a room is available, but Japan of course will have notable exceptions. I've been denied early check-in in Osaka at noon because "check-in doesn't start until 3pm." It's just part of the mentality.
Jun 23, 2013 | 8:01 pm
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Check this thread.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/japan...-now-open.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/japan...-now-open.html
Jun 23, 2013 | 8:10 pm
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I think you've covered it. If you want a guarantee that your room will be ready at 7am, the only way to do this at most hotels is to pay for the previous night. There may be some hotels that have 24-hour plans, and others that have a day rate, but those are few and far between.
Most hotels will let you check in that early if a room is available, but Japan of course will have notable exceptions. I've been denied early check-in in Osaka at noon because "check-in doesn't start until 3pm." It's just part of the mentality.
Most hotels will let you check in that early if a room is available, but Japan of course will have notable exceptions. I've been denied early check-in in Osaka at noon because "check-in doesn't start until 3pm." It's just part of the mentality.
Jun 23, 2013 | 9:47 pm
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I don't stay frequently at Japanese hotels, thankfully.
I remember seeing detailed pricing charts for late checkout down to half hour intervals with a non-linear price progression. I wonder if they ding you if you show up at the front desk at 12:01? Wouldn't surprise me.
I remember seeing detailed pricing charts for late checkout down to half hour intervals with a non-linear price progression. I wonder if they ding you if you show up at the front desk at 12:01? Wouldn't surprise me.
Jun 23, 2013 | 10:27 pm
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Japan generally works on the principle of having detailed rules and processes for everything. Yesterday morning, I had to speak to the manager at a hotel to convince them it wouldn't kill them to sell me just a cup of coffee rather than the full set breakfast.
Out of curiosity, any reason you actually have to check in early.
And if you're worried about jet lag, the last thing you want to do is go to bed at 7am.
Out of curiosity, any reason you actually have to check in early.
And if you're worried about jet lag, the last thing you want to do is go to bed at 7am.
Jun 24, 2013 | 12:39 am
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His flight lands at 21:00 UK time. It's unrealistic to sleep (non drug induced) on such a flight and there is no info here about class of service. The best thing to do is to take a nap in the morning, but the hotel is going to be a problem. You could be at the hotel as early as 6 am if you arrive at 5 am at HND and get up at 9 or 10 am, and then make sure that you stay up until the next night.
If you stay up all day as a zombie then you are likely to fall asleep too early in the evening and screw up your clock even more.
If you stay up all day as a zombie then you are likely to fall asleep too early in the evening and screw up your clock even more.
Jun 24, 2013 | 5:13 am
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Thanks for all the replies and suggestions.
I am flying CW so don't feel too sorry for me.
A couple of things occur to me. Why do BA schedule their flights to Japan at this time? They have a slightly later one but it's not much better? They usually schedule their flights more sympathetically - ie daytime flights to US and overnight back. I'm sure they have a reason.
Also there's no arrivals lounge at Haneda, which would have helped.
My plan is to get up early say 4 am. Get to LHR at 6 am. Spend time in lounge and have leisurely breakfast. Get head down at about 5pm UK time. If room not ready at hotel, take the shower they have offered and just get on with it. How hard can it be?
I am flying CW so don't feel too sorry for me.
A couple of things occur to me. Why do BA schedule their flights to Japan at this time? They have a slightly later one but it's not much better? They usually schedule their flights more sympathetically - ie daytime flights to US and overnight back. I'm sure they have a reason.
Also there's no arrivals lounge at Haneda, which would have helped.
My plan is to get up early say 4 am. Get to LHR at 6 am. Spend time in lounge and have leisurely breakfast. Get head down at about 5pm UK time. If room not ready at hotel, take the shower they have offered and just get on with it. How hard can it be?
Jun 24, 2013 | 10:29 pm
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There are certain limits imposed on flights to HND as to when they can take off and land (and they are sometimes cheaper as a result); flights to NRT are limited only by the curfew.
Jun 24, 2013 | 10:54 pm
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His flight lands at 21:00 UK time. It's unrealistic to sleep (non drug induced) on such a flight and there is no info here about class of service. The best thing to do is to take a nap in the morning, but the hotel is going to be a problem. You could be at the hotel as early as 6 am if you arrive at 5 am at HND and get up at 9 or 10 am, and then make sure that you stay up until the next night.
If you stay up all day as a zombie then you are likely to fall asleep too early in the evening and screw up your clock even more.
If you stay up all day as a zombie then you are likely to fall asleep too early in the evening and screw up your clock even more.
0 Sound likes the OP has a decent seat so he may be OK.
Should be able to get some sleep on the flight then especially if you stay up a bit late the night before.
Also there's no arrivals lounge at Haneda, which would have helped.
My plan is to get up early say 4 am. Get to LHR at 6 am. Spend time in lounge and have leisurely breakfast. Get head down at about 5pm UK time. If room not ready at hotel, take the shower they have offered and just get on with it. How hard can it be?
My plan is to get up early say 4 am. Get to LHR at 6 am. Spend time in lounge and have leisurely breakfast. Get head down at about 5pm UK time. If room not ready at hotel, take the shower they have offered and just get on with it. How hard can it be?
