Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Miles&Points > Airlines and Mileage Programs > Japan Airlines | JAL Mileage Bank
Reload this Page >

Almost all U.S. services to resume in March

Community
Wiki Posts
Search

Almost all U.S. services to resume in March

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 18, 2021, 7:30 pm
  #16  
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: SAN, LAX
Programs: JMB, Bonvoy, Hyatt
Posts: 237
I'm not sure the government is ready to open the country up to tourists, especially since there isn't established infrastructure to check vaccination records and Japan is barely beginning vaccinations this week. Given even the Japanese government doesn't have a crystal ball, any plans to open things up ahead of time is shaky at best. I'm not sure airlines would schedule/operate routes purely based on such back-channel information.

I don't know a whole lot about how travel is booked for US military, but I've seen service members fly on the SAN-NRT flight (presumably booked on AA codeshare). I don't know if that along with whatever other demand that exists now plus cargo can justify operating the route 3x/week.

AS is joining oneworld by end of March. It's pretty thin but could be a welcome present?

I also wonder how much of this is ramping up with the assumption that the Olympics will happen with spectators.
SugoiHikouki is offline  
Old Feb 18, 2021, 8:42 pm
  #17  
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: ZRH/LUX/LON
Programs: BA GGL/ VS Gold. Former: UA 1K (10 years+) , EY partners Plat, SQ PPS Club, SU Gold, LH SEN/HON
Posts: 770
We can only speculate. Some countries have already vaccinated 10 % of its poupulaion or more ( I'm thinking the US) and there is no much in terms of records being kept other than a CDC card. 10% would be roughly 38 million people.
OpenSky is offline  
Old Feb 18, 2021, 10:04 pm
  #18  
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: SAN, TYO, OSA
Posts: 252
Originally Posted by OpenSky
Are they planning to let vaccinated travellers back in?
And are the Russians going to open the country? ( and e-visa?)

JAL must know something we don't
It is not clear at this point whether one can still be contagious after establishing immunity by vaccination. Unless that changes or herd immunity is established, I believe vaccination of incoming travelers will remain just an additional assurance to a negative test (which is also not quite reliable). So I don't think the recent progress of vaccination in some countries will be the basis of opening borders or resuming more routes like SAN and SEA next month. Japan might make an exception for the Olympics though.

I am curious how much $$$ airlines lose (or gain) in case of nearly zero pax but full belly cargo at the current elevated cargo pricing for routes like SAN-NRT and SEA-NRT. They have quite frequently operated cargo-only flights like that for LAX-TYO using 77W, etc for a while, so there must be a very good reason to fly them.
kentauta is offline  
Old Feb 19, 2021, 4:18 am
  #19  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Tokyo
Programs: JAL Metal Card (OWE), SAS Eurobonus Gold (*G), Marriott Titanium (LTP), Tokyu Hotels Platinum
Posts: 21,326
Originally Posted by OpenSky
Are they planning to let vaccinated travellers back in?
And are the Russians going to open the country? ( and e-visa?)

JAL must know something we don't
As far as I know the e-visa is in principle operational, but visas are suspended due to the pandemic.

Japan is not going to admit tourists anytime soon. My earliest guess is Olympics, but I don't feel too sure.
CPH-Flyer is online now  
Old Mar 17, 2021, 9:23 pm
  #20  
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 8
Has anyone been on their US flights recently and can speak to their load factors? I am considering flying SIN to SAN transiting in NRT and am thinking about whether paying the extra miles for J would be worth it compared to Y. It'll be a daytime flight and so if I have an empty seat next to me or an empty row it should be pretty roomy even in Y with an 8-across configuration
TinyFluffyRabbit is offline  
Old Mar 17, 2021, 11:51 pm
  #21  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Tokyo
Programs: JAL Metal Card (OWE), SAS Eurobonus Gold (*G), Marriott Titanium (LTP), Tokyu Hotels Platinum
Posts: 21,326
Originally Posted by TinyFluffyRabbit
Has anyone been on their US flights recently and can speak to their load factors? I am considering flying SIN to SAN transiting in NRT and am thinking about whether paying the extra miles for J would be worth it compared to Y. It'll be a daytime flight and so if I have an empty seat next to me or an empty row it should be pretty roomy even in Y with an 8-across configuration
Pretty abysmal load factors these days seen from the carrier's perspective.
CPH-Flyer is online now  
Old Mar 20, 2021, 11:36 am
  #22  
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: The KUL city
Programs: AA Lifetime Plat, TK Elite+
Posts: 2,666
Originally Posted by TinyFluffyRabbit
Has anyone been on their US flights recently and can speak to their load factors? I am considering flying SIN to SAN transiting in NRT and am thinking about whether paying the extra miles for J would be worth it compared to Y. It'll be a daytime flight and so if I have an empty seat next to me or an empty row it should be pretty roomy even in Y with an 8-across configuration
Flew KUL-NRT-ORD last week. KUL-NRT had about 100 or so pax (I was really surprised by that, and about 10 or so were transfer pax). I checked in 2 hours prior to departure and my boarding number/sequence is 90+.

NRT-ORD was maybe about 50 pax.1 pax in F, 7-8 in J, 1 in PEY and a handful in Y.
nov11 is offline  
Old Mar 22, 2021, 2:12 am
  #23  
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 8
Originally Posted by CPH-Flyer
Pretty abysmal load factors these days seen from the carrier's perspective.
Originally Posted by nov11
Flew KUL-NRT-ORD last week. KUL-NRT had about 100 or so pax (I was really surprised by that, and about 10 or so were transfer pax). I checked in 2 hours prior to departure and my boarding number/sequence is 90+.

NRT-ORD was maybe about 50 pax.1 pax in F, 7-8 in J, 1 in PEY and a handful in Y.
Thanks for the responses! That's actually more people than I was expecting. Given that Y would be 37.5K miles, J would be 70K miles, and fees are identical, I decided to just go with J. I don't need to use the AA miles for anything else in the near future, and this is a good enough use case that I don't want to hoard the miles.
TinyFluffyRabbit is offline  


Contact Us - Manage Preferences - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.