Almost all U.S. services to resume in March
#16
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I'm not sure the government is ready to open the country up to tourists, especially since there isn't established infrastructure to check vaccination records and Japan is barely beginning vaccinations this week. Given even the Japanese government doesn't have a crystal ball, any plans to open things up ahead of time is shaky at best. I'm not sure airlines would schedule/operate routes purely based on such back-channel information.
I don't know a whole lot about how travel is booked for US military, but I've seen service members fly on the SAN-NRT flight (presumably booked on AA codeshare). I don't know if that along with whatever other demand that exists now plus cargo can justify operating the route 3x/week.
AS is joining oneworld by end of March. It's pretty thin but could be a welcome present?
I also wonder how much of this is ramping up with the assumption that the Olympics will happen with spectators.
I don't know a whole lot about how travel is booked for US military, but I've seen service members fly on the SAN-NRT flight (presumably booked on AA codeshare). I don't know if that along with whatever other demand that exists now plus cargo can justify operating the route 3x/week.
AS is joining oneworld by end of March. It's pretty thin but could be a welcome present?
I also wonder how much of this is ramping up with the assumption that the Olympics will happen with spectators.
#17
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We can only speculate. Some countries have already vaccinated 10 % of its poupulaion or more ( I'm thinking the US) and there is no much in terms of records being kept other than a CDC card. 10% would be roughly 38 million people.
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I am curious how much $$$ airlines lose (or gain) in case of nearly zero pax but full belly cargo at the current elevated cargo pricing for routes like SAN-NRT and SEA-NRT. They have quite frequently operated cargo-only flights like that for LAX-TYO using 77W, etc for a while, so there must be a very good reason to fly them.
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Japan is not going to admit tourists anytime soon. My earliest guess is Olympics, but I don't feel too sure.
#20
Join Date: Nov 2018
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Has anyone been on their US flights recently and can speak to their load factors? I am considering flying SIN to SAN transiting in NRT and am thinking about whether paying the extra miles for J would be worth it compared to Y. It'll be a daytime flight and so if I have an empty seat next to me or an empty row it should be pretty roomy even in Y with an 8-across configuration
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Has anyone been on their US flights recently and can speak to their load factors? I am considering flying SIN to SAN transiting in NRT and am thinking about whether paying the extra miles for J would be worth it compared to Y. It'll be a daytime flight and so if I have an empty seat next to me or an empty row it should be pretty roomy even in Y with an 8-across configuration
#22
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Has anyone been on their US flights recently and can speak to their load factors? I am considering flying SIN to SAN transiting in NRT and am thinking about whether paying the extra miles for J would be worth it compared to Y. It'll be a daytime flight and so if I have an empty seat next to me or an empty row it should be pretty roomy even in Y with an 8-across configuration
NRT-ORD was maybe about 50 pax.1 pax in F, 7-8 in J, 1 in PEY and a handful in Y.
#23
Join Date: Nov 2018
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Flew KUL-NRT-ORD last week. KUL-NRT had about 100 or so pax (I was really surprised by that, and about 10 or so were transfer pax). I checked in 2 hours prior to departure and my boarding number/sequence is 90+.
NRT-ORD was maybe about 50 pax.1 pax in F, 7-8 in J, 1 in PEY and a handful in Y.
NRT-ORD was maybe about 50 pax.1 pax in F, 7-8 in J, 1 in PEY and a handful in Y.