JL Back-to-Back Connection at SIN
#1
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JL Back-to-Back Connection at SIN
Hi everyone,
As part of a points run and to burn some miles, I plan to fly JL 711 (NRT-SIN) and then immediately return on JL 38 (SIN-HND).
I will have only carry on baggage, will be in business class, and should be able to have a mobile boarding pass.
As best as I can tell, the same plane always operates 711 into Singapore and 38 back to Tokyo.
There's a 90-minute connection .... which should only involve deplaning, clearing security at the gate, and reboarding.
This will be in late July -- SIN should be permitting transits and hopefully JL will be operating a normal schedule to Singapore.
Can anyone identify any problems I'm overlooking??
Thanks,
Bill
ETA - This would be 2 tickets... paid inbound to SIN and award return to HND
As part of a points run and to burn some miles, I plan to fly JL 711 (NRT-SIN) and then immediately return on JL 38 (SIN-HND).
I will have only carry on baggage, will be in business class, and should be able to have a mobile boarding pass.
As best as I can tell, the same plane always operates 711 into Singapore and 38 back to Tokyo.
There's a 90-minute connection .... which should only involve deplaning, clearing security at the gate, and reboarding.
This will be in late July -- SIN should be permitting transits and hopefully JL will be operating a normal schedule to Singapore.
Can anyone identify any problems I'm overlooking??
Thanks,
Bill
ETA - This would be 2 tickets... paid inbound to SIN and award return to HND
Last edited by sombrachinesca; Jun 8, 2020 at 8:11 pm
#2
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you probably would be denied boarding in Tokyo as you don't have right to enter Singapore, I assume.
Transit in Changi is nothing like pre-covid19. JL has not been granted any transit right in Changi. And you don't really transit in Changi.
Transit in Changi is nothing like pre-covid19. JL has not been granted any transit right in Changi. And you don't really transit in Changi.
#3
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In addition that unless you have a Japanese passport, you're not getting back into Japan. Though they are getting some pressure to change this ridiculous rule, the J government hasn't yet and there haven't been any solid plans yet that I've seen to remove the overall entry restrictions on the 100+ countries listed.
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Basically you have to see if Singapore opens up. If they open up then you can do the mileage run, if not you cannot. That's it. I'm not talking about opening up for transit but just opening up to let people in.
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Japan Airlines will never be granted transit rights in Changi, because they aren't supposed to have transit rights anyway. They don't fly anywhere other than Japan from Singapore. If they did it would be a fifth-freedom flight.
Basically you have to see if Singapore opens up. If they open up then you can do the mileage run, if not you cannot. That's it. I'm not talking about opening up for transit but just opening up to let people in.
Basically you have to see if Singapore opens up. If they open up then you can do the mileage run, if not you cannot. That's it. I'm not talking about opening up for transit but just opening up to let people in.
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so dont count on your plan
1) transit passenger require specially approved airlines + route (see below). this wont happen for your special back-to-back connection
2) if not transiting, you will be denied boarding at Tokyo - SIN not accepting foreign visitors (likely until Phase 3, likely Sept or later. definitely not July)
*Changi is allowing transit as of now, but requires airlines to submit plans to be approved. transit passengers will be separated and isolated during transit period
No airline has gotten approval yet
see ongoing thread (in SQ forum, but theres discussion about other airline transit)
Changi Airport to allow transit from 2nd June
I havent seen anything that requires both sides of transit to be same airlines. but the restrictions likely mean its easier if an airline only submits their own routes (and have enough staff for the transit isolation area). and likely some route wont be supported (eg overnight transit over 6 hours)
maybe in the future, they can relax the rules a little (have a common isolated transit area where one can have a self-connecting itinerary)
Last edited by paperwastage; Jun 9, 2020 at 9:39 am
#9
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Why would OP be denied boarding if he shows the boarding pass or ticketed booking of the inbound flight to Japan at the same time of checking in for his outbound flight to SIN? Believe the definition of “transit” is not leaving airside at SIN, and that’s presumably what OP wants to do.
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Why would OP be denied boarding if he shows the boarding pass or ticketed booking of the inbound flight to Japan at the same time of checking in for his outbound flight to SIN? Believe the definition of “transit” is not leaving airside at SIN, and that’s presumably what OP wants to do.