Jun 26, 2018, 12:52 pm
Last edit by: Tokyoite
Corona related JAL announcements page link.
https://www.jal.co.jp/jp/en/info/2020/other/200228/
Just to kick start a wiki, with answers to frequent questions.A: Yes. written here (link) A. Definitely, within the lounge access rules of course. written here (link)
https://www.jal.co.jp/jp/en/info/2020/other/200228/
Just to kick start a wiki, with answers to frequent questions.
1. We're flying HND-NGO-HNL. NGO-HNL is booked in business class, but HND-NGO is in economy. Will we still get the baggage allowance as if we're flying business class the whole way?
2. We're flying HND-NGO-HNL. Will we have lounge access in HND?
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May 3, 2020, 6:06 pm
#3586
Ambassador: Japan Airlines
Original Poster
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: LAX
Programs: JAL Mileage Bank, JMB Diamond, oneworld Emerald, Bonvoy Platinum
Posts: 16,397
Hi all
was wondering if someone can help me out with a very very basic question as dont fully get how it works (im mainly based on the BAEC side so JMB is new territory for me
i wanted to know what is the earning rate for FLY ON miles when flying on OW carriers.
On JAL website it implies you can only earn FOP when flying on JAL group flights only with the calculator only catering to JAL flights - i can probably give about 6 different pages as well on JAL that make a specific reference to FOP points being different to Millage Accrual
Example: https://www.jal.co.jp/en/jalmile/flyon/guide.html
However i accidentally stumbled across a OW page on JAL which stats that "* JAL Group airlines and/or oneworld member airlines' flights with eligible fares for mileage accumulation are eligible for FLY ON status qualification."
Reference - https://www.jal.co.jp/en/oneworld/flight_mileage.html
As such, just wanted to know how FOP are earned when flying on other OW carriers or is it that only flights on OW metal are allowed so long as its marked as a JAL flight?
was wondering if someone can help me out with a very very basic question as dont fully get how it works (im mainly based on the BAEC side so JMB is new territory for me
i wanted to know what is the earning rate for FLY ON miles when flying on OW carriers.
On JAL website it implies you can only earn FOP when flying on JAL group flights only with the calculator only catering to JAL flights - i can probably give about 6 different pages as well on JAL that make a specific reference to FOP points being different to Millage Accrual
Example: https://www.jal.co.jp/en/jalmile/flyon/guide.html
However i accidentally stumbled across a OW page on JAL which stats that "* JAL Group airlines and/or oneworld member airlines' flights with eligible fares for mileage accumulation are eligible for FLY ON status qualification."
Reference - https://www.jal.co.jp/en/oneworld/flight_mileage.html
As such, just wanted to know how FOP are earned when flying on other OW carriers or is it that only flights on OW metal are allowed so long as its marked as a JAL flight?
May 4, 2020, 7:11 am
#3587
Join Date: Oct 2018
Programs: BAEC Silver
Posts: 41
many thanks but im more interested in how its calculated as it doesnt really say - the oneworld part of the JAL site (https://www.jal.co.jp/en/oneworld/flight_mileage.html) refers you back to the link where it say that FOP's are only acruable through JAL group flights?
but that being said, and the website is just incorrect (as it happens from time to time) how do you calculate the FOP's earned - for instance if i fly QR from DOH to LHR and credit to JMB
I know Award miles accrued is by distance x class of travel but nothing on FOP
furthermore if its based on the JAL formula how do you calculate the distance as JAL does not use distance miles (per se) but publishes their own list
but that being said, and the website is just incorrect (as it happens from time to time) how do you calculate the FOP's earned - for instance if i fly QR from DOH to LHR and credit to JMB
I know Award miles accrued is by distance x class of travel but nothing on FOP
furthermore if its based on the JAL formula how do you calculate the distance as JAL does not use distance miles (per se) but publishes their own list
May 4, 2020, 7:54 am
#3588
Ambassador: Japan Airlines
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: LAX
Programs: JAL Mileage Bank, JMB Diamond, oneworld Emerald, Bonvoy Platinum
Posts: 16,397
many thanks but im more interested in how its calculated as it doesnt really say - the oneworld part of the JAL site (https://www.jal.co.jp/en/oneworld/flight_mileage.html) refers you back to the link where it say that FOP's are only acruable through JAL group flights?
but that being said, and the website is just incorrect (as it happens from time to time) how do you calculate the FOP's earned - for instance if i fly QR from DOH to LHR and credit to JMB
I know Award miles accrued is by distance x class of travel but nothing on FOP
furthermore if its based on the JAL formula how do you calculate the distance as JAL does not use distance miles (per se) but publishes their own list
but that being said, and the website is just incorrect (as it happens from time to time) how do you calculate the FOP's earned - for instance if i fly QR from DOH to LHR and credit to JMB
I know Award miles accrued is by distance x class of travel but nothing on FOP
furthermore if its based on the JAL formula how do you calculate the distance as JAL does not use distance miles (per se) but publishes their own list
May 4, 2020, 8:09 am
#3589
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Pacific Wonderland
Programs: ʙᴏɴᴠo̱ʏ Au, IHG Au, HH Dia, Nexus, Pilot FlyingJ Preferred
Posts: 5,336
many thanks but im more interested in how its calculated as it doesnt really say - the oneworld part of the JAL site (https://www.jal.co.jp/en/oneworld/flight_mileage.html) refers you back to the link where it say that FOP's are only acruable through JAL group flights?
but that being said, and the website is just incorrect (as it happens from time to time) how do you calculate the FOP's earned - for instance if i fly QR from DOH to LHR and credit to JMB
I know Award miles accrued is by distance x class of travel but nothing on FOP
furthermore if its based on the JAL formula how do you calculate the distance as JAL does not use distance miles (per se) but publishes their own list
but that being said, and the website is just incorrect (as it happens from time to time) how do you calculate the FOP's earned - for instance if i fly QR from DOH to LHR and credit to JMB
I know Award miles accrued is by distance x class of travel but nothing on FOP
furthermore if its based on the JAL formula how do you calculate the distance as JAL does not use distance miles (per se) but publishes their own list
FOPs are earned on both JAL and OW flights. Bonus FOP points are only on JAL flights. The FOPs earned on OW flights is the same as the redeemable miles earned (flight mileage (mileage x fare class multiplier)) since the international/non-domestic Japan multiplier is 1.
For fare class multiplier, look at the individual airline page, such as
https://www.jal.co.jp/en/jmb/earn/travel/flight/qr.html
Mileage calculation is based on IATA tables, so essentially standard with everywhere else to within a handful of miles. To double check, use
https://www121.jal.co.jp/JmbWeb/JR/S...673.1588180474
(hopefully that link works, otherwise look for sector mileage calculator on any partner page)
May 4, 2020, 1:05 pm
#3590
Join Date: Oct 2018
Programs: BAEC Silver
Posts: 41
I think you're over reading the FOP page. FOPs are earned on both JAL and OW flights. Bonus FOP points are only on JAL flights.
The FOPs earned on OW flights is the same as the redeemable miles earned (flight mileage (mileage x fare class multiplier)) since the international/non-domestic Japan multiplier is 1.
For fare class multiplier, look at the individual airline page, such as
https://www.jal.co.jp/en/jmb/earn/travel/flight/qr.html
Mileage calculation is based on IATA tables, so essentially standard with everywhere else to within a handful of miles. To double check, use
https://www121.jal.co.jp/JmbWeb/JR/S...673.1588180474
(hopefully that link works, otherwise look for sector mileage calculator on any partner page)
FOPs are earned on both JAL and OW flights. Bonus FOP points are only on JAL flights.The FOPs earned on OW flights is the same as the redeemable miles earned (flight mileage (mileage x fare class multiplier)) since the international/non-domestic Japan multiplier is 1.
For fare class multiplier, look at the individual airline page, such as
https://www.jal.co.jp/en/jmb/earn/travel/flight/qr.html
Mileage calculation is based on IATA tables, so essentially standard with everywhere else to within a handful of miles. To double check, use
https://www121.jal.co.jp/JmbWeb/JR/S...673.1588180474
(hopefully that link works, otherwise look for sector mileage calculator on any partner page)
Doesnt help also that JAL calls the umbrella terms flight millage and the award miles flight mileage as well - think that was what really messed with me.
so just to set my understanding straight
- on OW flights non domestic FOP is equal to Award Miles as multiplier is 1x
- therefore from DOH to LON in F it would be FOP = 3,240 (miles) x 1.5 (F)
just so i also understand the bonus system (and confirm understanding)
if i was JMB crystal and i flew BA instead in F would it be
FOP = 3,240 (miles) x 1.5 (F) x 25% (BA Bonus)?
May 4, 2020, 1:10 pm
#3591
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Tokyo
Programs: JAL Metal Card (OWE), SAS Eurobonus Gold (*G), Marriott Titanium (LTP), Tokyu Hotels Platinum
Posts: 21,166
Many thanks - you know when you read something so many times it begins to blur and you start loosing track of things.
Doesnt help also that JAL calls the umbrella terms flight millage and the award miles flight mileage as well - think that was what really messed with me.
so just to set my understanding straight
- on OW flights non domestic FOP is equal to Award Miles as multiplier is 1x
- therefore from DOH to LON in F it would be FOP = 3,240 (miles) x 1.5 (F)
just so i also understand the bonus system (and confirm understanding)
if i was JMB crystal and i flew BA instead in F would it be
FOP = 3,240 (miles) x 1.5 (F) x 25% (BA Bonus)?
Doesnt help also that JAL calls the umbrella terms flight millage and the award miles flight mileage as well - think that was what really messed with me.
so just to set my understanding straight
- on OW flights non domestic FOP is equal to Award Miles as multiplier is 1x
- therefore from DOH to LON in F it would be FOP = 3,240 (miles) x 1.5 (F)
just so i also understand the bonus system (and confirm understanding)
if i was JMB crystal and i flew BA instead in F would it be
FOP = 3,240 (miles) x 1.5 (F) x 25% (BA Bonus)?
May 4, 2020, 1:21 pm
#3592
Join Date: Oct 2018
Programs: BAEC Silver
Posts: 41
May 4, 2020, 2:13 pm
#3593
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Pacific Wonderland
Programs: ʙᴏɴᴠo̱ʏ Au, IHG Au, HH Dia, Nexus, Pilot FlyingJ Preferred
Posts: 5,336
May 5, 2020, 12:55 am
#3595
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: SAN, TYO, OSA
Posts: 252
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May 5, 2020, 12:58 am
#3596
Ambassador: Japan Airlines
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: LAX
Programs: JAL Mileage Bank, JMB Diamond, oneworld Emerald, Bonvoy Platinum
Posts: 16,397
The flight is wide open.
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May 8, 2020, 12:26 am
#3598
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Tokyo
Programs: Marriott Plat, HH G,Hyatt E,*A Gold, OW Emerald.
Posts: 3,023
already announced as below. (Last Updated May 7, 2020)
JL043/JL044 May 1 - 30, 2020 Operates on Mon, Wed, Fri, Sat
https://www.jal.co.jp/jp/en/info/2020/inter/200413_03/
JL043/JL044 May 1 - 30, 2020 Operates on Mon, Wed, Fri, Sat
https://www.jal.co.jp/jp/en/info/2020/inter/200413_03/
May 8, 2020, 10:38 pm
#3599
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Tokyo, Japan
Programs: ANA SFC (*G)
Posts: 530
already announced as below. (Last Updated May 7, 2020)
JL043/JL044 May 1 - 30, 2020 Operates on Mon, Wed, Fri, Sat
https://www.jal.co.jp/jp/en/info/2020/inter/200413_03/
JL043/JL044 May 1 - 30, 2020 Operates on Mon, Wed, Fri, Sat
https://www.jal.co.jp/jp/en/info/2020/inter/200413_03/
May 9, 2020, 2:30 am
#3600
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Tokyo
Programs: Marriott Plat, HH G,Hyatt E,*A Gold, OW Emerald.
Posts: 3,023
not much more you can do about your anxiety other than postponing your flight until the pandemic is over.