"New" RA qualifiying limits as of June 1st, 2009
#211
Join Date: Jun 2006
Programs: US Airways Chairman, Hilton Diamond, PC PLatinum
Posts: 40
Silly RA question of the day.....
I've stayed about 70-80 nights per year at IHC properties every year for the last five years. Not once at an IC.
I'm a Platinum PC.
Mrs JCea and I are planning a trip to Italy next spring and I would like to earn RA before we arrive for an award stay at the IC Rome to get the beenies.
I can easily catch 3 or 4 stays at ICs in the next 6 months or so.
The question is......Do I buy the Amabassador now and then stay at a few IC's to qualify, or do I stay at the IC's and THEN buy the Ambassador?
Sorry if this has been covered. I've been through these threads and searched but can not find the info. I have learned however that calling the Ambassador line will be no help what so ever.
I'm a Platinum PC.
Mrs JCea and I are planning a trip to Italy next spring and I would like to earn RA before we arrive for an award stay at the IC Rome to get the beenies.
I can easily catch 3 or 4 stays at ICs in the next 6 months or so.
The question is......Do I buy the Amabassador now and then stay at a few IC's to qualify, or do I stay at the IC's and THEN buy the Ambassador?
Sorry if this has been covered. I've been through these threads and searched but can not find the info. I have learned however that calling the Ambassador line will be no help what so ever.
Last edited by Jcea; Aug 10, 2009 at 6:29 pm Reason: Typos
#212
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 6,359
One thing worries me about While supplying some of this information may be reasonable, it is quite unreasonable for you to ask for a colleague's 'credit card details (card type, number and expiry date)' and supply it to IHG in view of any possible breach of security. (Of course, if the colleague is already a member, they would have this info anyway.)
Yeah, that is what I requested, but they pretend like it is impossible to do. What joke. I'm sure it's real hard to send out an RA referral cert to somebody who earned it.
#213
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 6,359
I've stayed about 70-80 nights per year at IHC properties every year for the last five years. Not once at an IC.
I'm a Platinum PC.
Mrs JCea and I are planning a trip to Italy next spring and I would like to earn RA before we arrive for an award stay at the IC Rome to get the beenies.
I can easily catch 3 or 4 stays at ICs in the next 6 months or so.
The question is......Do I buy the Amabassador now and then stay at a few IC's to qualify, or do I stay at the IC's and THEN buy the Ambassador?
Sorry if this has been covered. I've been through these threads and searched but can not find the info. I have learned however that calling the Ambassador line will be no help what so ever.
I'm a Platinum PC.
Mrs JCea and I are planning a trip to Italy next spring and I would like to earn RA before we arrive for an award stay at the IC Rome to get the beenies.
I can easily catch 3 or 4 stays at ICs in the next 6 months or so.
The question is......Do I buy the Amabassador now and then stay at a few IC's to qualify, or do I stay at the IC's and THEN buy the Ambassador?
Sorry if this has been covered. I've been through these threads and searched but can not find the info. I have learned however that calling the Ambassador line will be no help what so ever.
Buy the Amb status now and then stay at 3 different ICs. Plus that way you will get Amb perks during your 3 IC stays. ^ Although don't get your hopes too too high for getting all the RA bennies at IC Rome. According to the T&Cs they are not REQUIRED to give you elite bennies on an award stay.
#214
Join Date: Jun 2006
Programs: US Airways Chairman, Hilton Diamond, PC PLatinum
Posts: 40
Thanks...
First IC stay is in Chicago next month.
#215
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Boston, MA
Programs: SPG Plat, PC Plat, AA ExPlat, LT Gold
Posts: 1,899
#216
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 298
Did anyone see the Times the other day? There was a small piece on Intercontinental, and a few quotes about how they are now wanting to cut costs; they're trying to trim tens of millions off of their operating costs - both across the board and in the franchised hotels.
Found it online:
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle6792652.ece
Found it online:
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/to...cle6792652.ece
#219
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Atlanta (ATL)
Programs: LH HON, BA Gold, EK Gold, SPG Plat
Posts: 1,590
UPDATE
A little update: I received a call last week and was informed that my RA package will not arrive until another 6 weeks, but that my RA status had been extended until AUG2010. I got the same information from the agent that I spoke with late July when I inquired about the renewal process. Still a nice touch by IHG ^
I aksed the agent if only my past stays played a roll in the renewal or if future stays (that are already booked) are being taken into consideration as well. He said that they only look at past stays (don't know if that is 100% true, but he was very convincing) and he confirmed that the new rule is that one has to be in the top 1% of Intercontindental customers (on a per-night base, not a total revenue base), so 3 nights by itself plus 50 night in other IHG properties are definitly not enough anymore. He mentioned I made the cut by 3 nights (though he wouldn't want to tell me what the cut was).
So it is certainly more difficult to get the status and also to maintain it. I don't know if I will be able to do it again next year....will see.
I aksed the agent if only my past stays played a roll in the renewal or if future stays (that are already booked) are being taken into consideration as well. He said that they only look at past stays (don't know if that is 100% true, but he was very convincing) and he confirmed that the new rule is that one has to be in the top 1% of Intercontindental customers (on a per-night base, not a total revenue base), so 3 nights by itself plus 50 night in other IHG properties are definitly not enough anymore. He mentioned I made the cut by 3 nights (though he wouldn't want to tell me what the cut was).
So it is certainly more difficult to get the status and also to maintain it. I don't know if I will be able to do it again next year....will see.
#220
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 6,359
You can check the exact date that they upgraded/renewed your RA status in your PC acct. Can you count back for the trailing 365 days and report back exactly how many IHG nights you had during that period (paid as well as reward if you can break it down would be helpful)? And then we can subtract 3 to figure out the exact number hopefully. ^
My thinking is it's somewhere between 55-60 now.
#221
Formerly known as fsa_ea
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Up in the Air
Programs: UA GS/1MM,AS 75k,NK GLD,AA 2MM,DL 2MM,LH FT,AY PLT,IC RA,FMT LT PLT,HYT GLB,HLT DIA,MRT GLD,HRTZ PC
Posts: 2,229
#222
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 3,578
Well, I do not know if revenue would make a difference or nights, or qualifying nights, or what would do it. I mean, I will have spent about 4500-5000 USD on ICH properties this year (most of it in ICs), but will only have 18 qualifying nights (7 nights in IC madrid on FnF got me no points or qualifying nights even though they are offering the same nightly rate I paid right now as a normal advance rate, and 6 nights at IC Tahiti on FnF will likely get me no points or nights also.) There is no way I will requal, even though all my stays, including the FnF ones (which should count as stays even if you don't get points considering the rates are not all that much better most times than what they offer at times) are going to total about 32 (all but 4 in an IC). I mean, 30 nights would equal 60k points from stays without promos and bonuses, but I don't see that putting me anywhere close, nor do I see spending 5k putting me anywhere close. Pity my pointbreak nights or buy 2 get a free night promo stays do not count as stays, since that would put me at 45 or so.
#223
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Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Programs: OWEmerald; STARGold; BonvoyPlat; IHGPlat/Amb; HiltonGold; A|ClubPat; AirMilesPlat
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Well, I do not know if revenue would make a difference or nights, or qualifying nights, or what would do it. I mean, I will have spent about 4500-5000 USD on ICH properties this year (most of it in ICs), but will only have 18 qualifying nights (7 nights in IC madrid on FnF got me no points or qualifying nights even though they are offering the same nightly rate I paid right now as a normal advance rate, and 6 nights at IC Tahiti on FnF will likely get me no points or nights also.) There is no way I will requal, even though all my stays, including the FnF ones (which should count as stays even if you don't get points considering the rates are not all that much better most times than what they offer at times) are going to total about 32 (all but 4 in an IC). I mean, 30 nights would equal 60k points from stays without promos and bonuses, but I don't see that putting me anywhere close, nor do I see spending 5k putting me anywhere close. Pity my pointbreak nights or buy 2 get a free night promo stays do not count as stays, since that would put me at 45 or so.
The FnF rate was clearly defined as one you would not earn most elements of the PC program. One had to make a trade-off in long term considerations. Had you paid the advance bkg rate, you'd have earned night credits that qualified for the 15 nt 20K IC bonus, likely worth the few extra bucks a night.
Let's face it, you want your cake and eat it too, and that's just not in the cards. Many of us to 40-60 nights a year, paid at qualifying rates, and we earn pts, bonuses and high tier status in both programs. Most do this on the company's tab, but a few of us are paying our own way.
Last edited by Shareholder; Aug 17, 2009 at 3:13 pm
#224
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: London
Programs: VS Gold, IHG RA/Plat, Marriott Plat
Posts: 763
Please read all comments and threads relating to RA qualifying rules, before you make a comment like this.
The story we just been told proved the current qualifying level for RA is 70 nights in any IHG hotels, including stays in at least 3 IC. The 1% line is higher than last year.
The story we just been told proved the current qualifying level for RA is 70 nights in any IHG hotels, including stays in at least 3 IC. The 1% line is higher than last year.
Last edited by MP (Miles+Points); Aug 17, 2009 at 4:01 pm