Jun 18, 2016, 4:39 am
Last edit by: HadesNL
Update 2023:
- it seems no new RA have been invited by IHG
- criteria for RA requalification are still unknown
- geographical location of member / country account registration seems of some impact due of covid19(restrictions/availability)
- RA is processed in weekly batches starting december 2022
- proof by nicolas75 shows RA qualification for 2024 seems to be strictly based on IC hotels only (not Regent, Kimpton, SixSenses anymore)
As per Tim O'Brien's post about IHG-corporate explaining RA criteria:
As you are aware,
Royal Ambassador is our invitation only tier with the number of members invited each year
limited to ensure our hotels are able to consistently deliver on the benefits promise,
elevating your stay experience at InterContinental Hotels & Resorts.
Although we do not currently have a published criteria for Royal Ambassador,
consideration is determined by variable activities within a members account such as
- qualified paid room nights & spend across our luxury brands (, 2023 EDIT: Post-Pandemic from 2024 InterContinental only : Pre-Pandemic also Kimpton & Regent ) ,
- member region,
- primary hotels,
- category (of the hotel class / €$¥£ price levels compared to currency rates / competition / city / region / country / continent )
- tenure (repeat custom / average spend at hotel)
Accompanying or adjoining reservations,
such as the additional rooms of your family etc are not included for Royal Ambassador consideration
but are included in determining Spire Elite status within IHG Rewards Club.
* FT:IHG forum community group consensus / empirical evidence shows
- that members must have stayed at different unique hotels per city / country / region / continent
the amount of uniques needed for RA qualification is unknown but generally extended long stays at just 1 hotel do not qualify
- IHG-corporate showing keen interest in how much guests are spending €$¥£ at hotel's own operated F&B / Spa / transport / extra services / other venues
atacama40 has given us insights that extra spend at the hotel charged to the hotelfolio generates EQP but also flags the database as high valued spending guest
- one must have AMB to get considered for RA invitation by IHG as they seem to evaluate over a longer period the length of one's tenure / devotion / spend / undisclosed criteria at stayed IC-hotels
2024
Royal Ambassador 2024 (Re)Qualification - statistics
Thank you everyone who graciously shared their status and statistics. I took the liberty to compose an overview.
The common factor that is instantly recognisable is:
IC: 69 N - 4 unique IC - $17400 - 2 unique country
AndyMick
IC: 96 N - 10 unique IC - 7 unique country - 164778 EQP
Ithink
IC: 78 N - 10 unique IC - £27000
Richelieu
~
ProjectSunburst
15 unique IC (USA) - $35000
Kimpton spend: $11000
Milleage Millionaire
IC: 100 N : 58 revenue & 42 award - 166514 EQP
Raynyan
~
Nicolas75
~
ILS2
$20000
HadesNL
IC: 41 N - 8 unique IC (2x USA, 1x UK, 3x EU, 1x Indonesia) 250458 EQP
Marlin1978
IC: 40 N - 9 unique IC (USA + EU) - $13000
HClee01
IC: 30 N - 6 unique IC - $8700
2x Kimpton / 1x Regent : 22 N - $7400
VAbeachgirl
IC: 88 N - 14 unique IC - 8 countries
2x Kimpton : 7 N
total $20000 (IC + Kimpton)
PremexecSNA
IHG : 85 N - 147000 EQP of which
90% revenue stay
85 % IC + Kimpton
10 unique IC
15 unique Kimpton
Darby1970
IC 100 N : 59 revenue of which
37 N : 11 unique IC (USA)& 4 (non-USA)
187682 EQP
Atacama40
IC + Kimpton : 40 N : UK, ME, Asia
Roomrate > £1000
EmeraldLady
11 unique IC : 4 continents
IHG: 87 N
$20000
Dmac1418
IC: 3 N - 2 unjque (IC Houston MC & IC San Diego)
6S Fiji $22000 (room: $10000 + spend $12000)
Smythmeister
~
Additional statistics can be found in the comments of LL
https://loyaltylobby.com/2023/12/03/...4-share-yours/
The only other place on the whole interweb that has an interest in Royal Ambassador.
============================
2023
Below our FT-members from the IHG forum with RA status
some of whom have graciously shared their statistics to shed some light
-----------------------
Mileage millionaire: 155359 EQP - IC nights 58 - total nights 108 - unique IC 15
Shoven : $16000 - IC nights 49 - Kimpton nights 8 - total nights 57 - unique IC 5 - unique Kimpton 2 - [unique countries UK/Thailand]
Stimpy: overall stats higher than Shoven
Nicholas75 : 230236 EQP - 93 EQN
Raynyan : 190000 EQP - IC/Kimpton nights 90 - unique IC/Kimpton 10
Vsevolod4 : $24000 - IC nights 67 - total nights 87
Vabeachgirl : $17500 - IC nights 75 - Kimpton nights 4 - total nights 79 - unique properties 13 [unique countries 7]
Hclee01: >$12600 - >156K EQP - 54 EQN - unique IC 3 - unique Kimpton 1 - unique Regent 2 [unique countries Singapore/Thailand/Taiwan/Japan]
Chinatrvl :
Ithink : 220.000 EQP - 47 EQN
Ninjalad : 150000 EQP - IC nights 34
Andymick : 145000 EQP - IC nights 100
Gentleman adventurer :
Marlin1978 :
Pseudo nim :
Hadesnl : 250000 EQP - Kimpton/IC nights 30 - 44 EQN - unique IC 3 - unique Kimpton 2 [unique countries UK/NL/FRA/Indonesia]
Itadakimasu : 120000 EQP - IC nights 12 - 51 EQN
Atacama40 : >£25000 - IC nights 60 - unique IC 8 - unique Kimpton 1
Eein : corporate rates global & local
Raynyan's friends : RA extension because their account is Japanese registered
Tim O'Brien: after own friendly persuasion effort : $8,500 - IC nights 79 of which 49 at pres.suite - unique IC 4 [unique countries US/AUS/CAN]
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The only other place on the internet that has an interest in RA (re)qualification statistics is at the comments at Loyaltylobby,
more 2023 RA datapoints can be found there:
https://loyaltylobby.com/2022/12/09/...re-your-stats/
https://loyaltylobby.com/2023/01/18/...re-your-stats/
==============================================
Update 2020 / 2021:
RA status was extended due to the global pandemic of covid19
================================================== =======
Update 2019: The RA status granted at the start of the calendar year 2017 and 2018 has been based on IC revenue. As from 2019 criteria again have become vague. RA is not achieved through IC spend only. Other, unknown elements are taken into account as well. (Fact: Some users with very high +25k IC spend were not renewed in 2019.)
Update December 2018: it looks like some accounts are proactively being renewed in December 2018, well ahead of the stated expiration of Jan 31, 2019. It is currently unknown what criteria were used, but previous years appeared to indicate around $10K++ in IC spend only.
As before, please Divide EQPs by 10 to get $$$ Spend
- it seems no new RA have been invited by IHG
- criteria for RA requalification are still unknown
- geographical location of member / country account registration seems of some impact due of covid19(restrictions/availability)
- RA is processed in weekly batches starting december 2022
- proof by nicolas75 shows RA qualification for 2024 seems to be strictly based on IC hotels only (not Regent, Kimpton, SixSenses anymore)
As per Tim O'Brien's post about IHG-corporate explaining RA criteria:
As you are aware,
Royal Ambassador is our invitation only tier with the number of members invited each year
limited to ensure our hotels are able to consistently deliver on the benefits promise,
elevating your stay experience at InterContinental Hotels & Resorts.
Although we do not currently have a published criteria for Royal Ambassador,
consideration is determined by variable activities within a members account such as
- qualified paid room nights & spend across our luxury brands (, 2023 EDIT: Post-Pandemic from 2024 InterContinental only : Pre-Pandemic also Kimpton & Regent ) ,
- member region,
- primary hotels,
- category (of the hotel class / €$¥£ price levels compared to currency rates / competition / city / region / country / continent )
- tenure (repeat custom / average spend at hotel)
Accompanying or adjoining reservations,
such as the additional rooms of your family etc are not included for Royal Ambassador consideration
but are included in determining Spire Elite status within IHG Rewards Club.
* FT:IHG forum community group consensus / empirical evidence shows
- that members must have stayed at different unique hotels per city / country / region / continent
the amount of uniques needed for RA qualification is unknown but generally extended long stays at just 1 hotel do not qualify
- IHG-corporate showing keen interest in how much guests are spending €$¥£ at hotel's own operated F&B / Spa / transport / extra services / other venues
atacama40 has given us insights that extra spend at the hotel charged to the hotelfolio generates EQP but also flags the database as high valued spending guest
- one must have AMB to get considered for RA invitation by IHG as they seem to evaluate over a longer period the length of one's tenure / devotion / spend / undisclosed criteria at stayed IC-hotels
2024
Royal Ambassador 2024 (Re)Qualification - statistics
Thank you everyone who graciously shared their status and statistics. I took the liberty to compose an overview.
The common factor that is instantly recognisable is:
- everyone has a valid AMB membership
- everyone has spent a good amount in €$£
IC: 69 N - 4 unique IC - $17400 - 2 unique country
AndyMick
IC: 96 N - 10 unique IC - 7 unique country - 164778 EQP
Ithink
IC: 78 N - 10 unique IC - £27000
Richelieu
~
ProjectSunburst
15 unique IC (USA) - $35000
Kimpton spend: $11000
Milleage Millionaire
IC: 100 N : 58 revenue & 42 award - 166514 EQP
Raynyan
~
Nicolas75
~
ILS2
$20000
HadesNL
IC: 41 N - 8 unique IC (2x USA, 1x UK, 3x EU, 1x Indonesia) 250458 EQP
Marlin1978
IC: 40 N - 9 unique IC (USA + EU) - $13000
HClee01
IC: 30 N - 6 unique IC - $8700
2x Kimpton / 1x Regent : 22 N - $7400
VAbeachgirl
IC: 88 N - 14 unique IC - 8 countries
2x Kimpton : 7 N
total $20000 (IC + Kimpton)
PremexecSNA
IHG : 85 N - 147000 EQP of which
90% revenue stay
85 % IC + Kimpton
10 unique IC
15 unique Kimpton
Darby1970
IC 100 N : 59 revenue of which
37 N : 11 unique IC (USA)& 4 (non-USA)
187682 EQP
Atacama40
IC + Kimpton : 40 N : UK, ME, Asia
Roomrate > £1000
EmeraldLady
11 unique IC : 4 continents
IHG: 87 N
$20000
Dmac1418
IC: 3 N - 2 unjque (IC Houston MC & IC San Diego)
6S Fiji $22000 (room: $10000 + spend $12000)
Smythmeister
~
Additional statistics can be found in the comments of LL
https://loyaltylobby.com/2023/12/03/...4-share-yours/
The only other place on the whole interweb that has an interest in Royal Ambassador.
============================
2023
Below our FT-members from the IHG forum with RA status
some of whom have graciously shared their statistics to shed some light
-----------------------
Mileage millionaire: 155359 EQP - IC nights 58 - total nights 108 - unique IC 15
Shoven : $16000 - IC nights 49 - Kimpton nights 8 - total nights 57 - unique IC 5 - unique Kimpton 2 - [unique countries UK/Thailand]
Stimpy: overall stats higher than Shoven
Nicholas75 : 230236 EQP - 93 EQN
Raynyan : 190000 EQP - IC/Kimpton nights 90 - unique IC/Kimpton 10
Vsevolod4 : $24000 - IC nights 67 - total nights 87
Vabeachgirl : $17500 - IC nights 75 - Kimpton nights 4 - total nights 79 - unique properties 13 [unique countries 7]
Hclee01: >$12600 - >156K EQP - 54 EQN - unique IC 3 - unique Kimpton 1 - unique Regent 2 [unique countries Singapore/Thailand/Taiwan/Japan]
Chinatrvl :
Ithink : 220.000 EQP - 47 EQN
Ninjalad : 150000 EQP - IC nights 34
Andymick : 145000 EQP - IC nights 100
Gentleman adventurer :
Marlin1978 :
Pseudo nim :
Hadesnl : 250000 EQP - Kimpton/IC nights 30 - 44 EQN - unique IC 3 - unique Kimpton 2 [unique countries UK/NL/FRA/Indonesia]
Itadakimasu : 120000 EQP - IC nights 12 - 51 EQN
Atacama40 : >£25000 - IC nights 60 - unique IC 8 - unique Kimpton 1
Eein : corporate rates global & local
Raynyan's friends : RA extension because their account is Japanese registered
Tim O'Brien: after own friendly persuasion effort : $8,500 - IC nights 79 of which 49 at pres.suite - unique IC 4 [unique countries US/AUS/CAN]
----------------
The only other place on the internet that has an interest in RA (re)qualification statistics is at the comments at Loyaltylobby,
more 2023 RA datapoints can be found there:
https://loyaltylobby.com/2022/12/09/...re-your-stats/
https://loyaltylobby.com/2023/01/18/...re-your-stats/
==============================================
Update 2020 / 2021:
RA status was extended due to the global pandemic of covid19
================================================== =======
Update 2019: The RA status granted at the start of the calendar year 2017 and 2018 has been based on IC revenue. As from 2019 criteria again have become vague. RA is not achieved through IC spend only. Other, unknown elements are taken into account as well. (Fact: Some users with very high +25k IC spend were not renewed in 2019.)
Update December 2018: it looks like some accounts are proactively being renewed in December 2018, well ahead of the stated expiration of Jan 31, 2019. It is currently unknown what criteria were used, but previous years appeared to indicate around $10K++ in IC spend only.
As before, please Divide EQPs by 10 to get $$$ Spend
================================================== =====
December 2019 / January 2020 Link to RA Renewals & Upgrades
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JANUARY 2019 RA RENEWAL STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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NAME.... IHG total (paid)/IC/EQP, break out IC spend if you can
Pseudo Nim 73 IC nights, $14.6K IC spend ($17.7K total),
Shoven 70 (50) IC nights, $17.3K IC spend ($17.3K total),
Unterwegs 52 IC nights, approx $12K net IC spend. No other brands this year! No more mediocre HIs to make status.
Kaix 63 IC nights, $14.4K IC spend ($15.1K total)
Tim O'Brien 26 IC Paid Nights as at Dec 27, when notified of RA renewal, 140,171 EQP, IC Net Spend 14, 017.
Vsevolod4 IHG total 132, IHG total paid 101, IC nights 85, IC Qualified Spend $16.5K, total EQP 398,800, Kimpton nights: 3, RA Ambassador Kit renewed Dec 27, RA renewal (again) and Kimpton Inner Circle upgrade Jan 4.
kaka(mom) 34 nights 1 country (all IC), IC spend:23k USD
JANUARY 2019 RA RENEWAL STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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NAME.... IHG total (paid)/IC/EQP, break out IC spend if you can
Pseudo Nim 73 IC nights, $14.6K IC spend ($17.7K total),
Shoven 70 (50) IC nights, $17.3K IC spend ($17.3K total),
Unterwegs 52 IC nights, approx $12K net IC spend. No other brands this year! No more mediocre HIs to make status.
Kaix 63 IC nights, $14.4K IC spend ($15.1K total)
Tim O'Brien 26 IC Paid Nights as at Dec 27, when notified of RA renewal, 140,171 EQP, IC Net Spend 14, 017.
Vsevolod4 IHG total 132, IHG total paid 101, IC nights 85, IC Qualified Spend $16.5K, total EQP 398,800, Kimpton nights: 3, RA Ambassador Kit renewed Dec 27, RA renewal (again) and Kimpton Inner Circle upgrade Jan 4.
kaka(mom) 34 nights 1 country (all IC), IC spend:23k USD
Lewis42 / 81 Total (unknown IC) / $16k IC / $2k Kimpton / 4 Continents
81 nights total
$18k Kimpton / IC (about $2k kimpton)
stays in 4 continents
been Ra for ~3-4 years
ID;Name;Confirm;Kit msg; Revenue ;Nights;Challenge?;Additional Info
40;stimpy;+;none; $9,000.00 ;50;?;RA since 2001 - exceptional renewal
38;turner32;-;none; $9,000.00 ;?;?;8/9 years as RA
49;hannes08;+;01/16/2019; $9,990.00 ;52;2000;renewal probably because of challenge
17;Lewis42;+;12/27/2018; $10,000.00 ;?;2000;renewal probably because of challenge
27;scienm;+;none; $10,032.00 ;32;?;8 years RA
25;hclee01;+;none; $10,142.16 ;37;?;current RA since 2014 - manual renewal
18;annihilation;-;none; $10,605.00 ;39;?;
51;crosskonaftw;?;none; $10,700.00 ;35;?;not yet RA
30;Land-of-Miles;+;none; $10,999.00 ;19;?;
16;Kimsbrand;-;none; $11,297.88 ;5;?;not RA yet. 13,532.92 USD total?
48;Urby38;+;12/27/2018; $11,300.00 ;47;?;Royal since 2012
42;SAWorldVoyager;?;12/21/2018; $11,391.52 ;?;?;
14;Cielito_;+;none; $11,511.00 ;62;no;77/62/8 with 12042 USD after batch
45;whimike;+;none; $11,700.00 ;?;?;RA for about 7 years
10;Unterwegs;+;12/27/2018; $12,000.00 ;52;yes;
44;serendipity1211;+;01/16/2019; $12,300.00 ;45;no;first-time RA
28;cazane;+;12/27/2018; $12,600.00 ;61;no;4 prepaid nights not posted until 27th 11890 -> 12600
11;VaBeachGirl;+;12/27/2018; $12,750.00 ;68;no;
50;lukah;?;none; $12,800.00 ;80;?;3 years RA
15;336;-;none; $12,900.00 ;16;2000;NOT completed challenge / Lots of adjusted stays
1;DonPedro;+;12/21/2018; $12,971.00 ;49;no;
47;SD2019;+;none; $13,000.00 ;35;no;stays erroneously adjusted or marked as overlapping
36;BRUSS;+;01/16/2019; $13,001.00 ;?;?;
13;Tim O'Brien;+;12/27/2018; $14,017.00 ;26;?; Kimpton;
33;marlin1978;?;12/27/2018; $14,182.00 ;46;no;
26;Kaix;?;12/27/2018; $14,400.00 ;63;?;
9;Pseudo Nim;+;12/27/2018; $14,600.00 ;73;?;
41;PMMMDL;?;?; $15,000.00 ;50;?;
23;nicolas75;?;12/27/2018; $15,000.00 ;81;?;
5;sharps1337;+;12/21/2018; $15,200.00 ;79;no;
3;Raynyan (friend2);?;12/21/2018; $15,500.00 ;69;no;
22;pantanal;+;12/27/2018; $16,000.00 ;?;?;
24;vsevolod4;+;12/27/2018; $16,319.00 ;84;no;
34;boekel;?;12/27/2018; $16,950.00 ;60;no;
21;ILS2;+;none; $17,000.00 ;40;?;
8;skaya (2x);+;12/27/2018; $17,000.00 ;?;?;
7;shoven;+;12/27/2018; $17,304.00 ;50;?;
51;EmeraldLady;+;12/27/2018; $18,000.00 ;47;?;
32;Mr. Chan;?;12/21/2018; $19,582.00 ;45;yes;completed challenge
46;kaka;+;12/21/2018; $20,001.00 ;34;no;
31;christenlabelle;?;none; $22,000.00 ;51;1k + Kimpton;
39;marcel.baden;?;12/27/2018; $22,000.00 ;77;?;
35;Flying Lawyer;?;12/27/2018; $22,135.00 ;70;?;
37;Roey007;?;none; $25,000.00 ;42;?;9 years RA - 9k adjustment: no kit message with 11k before
12;IThink;+;12/27/2018; $25,000.00 ;85;no;
19;HadesNL;+;12/27/2018; $28,273.90 ;52;?;
4;Raynyan (friend3);?;12/21/2018; $30,000.00 ;73;no;
29;btravers33;?;12/27/2018; $30,000.00 ;98;?;
2;Raynyan (friend1);?;12/21/2018; $32,000.00 ;75;no;
20;Raynyan;+;12/27/2018; ? ;70;?;~30 nights not counted somehow
6;samjnz;?;12/21/2018; ? ;?;2000;
04 JAN 2018 RA RENEWAL STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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NAME.... IHG total (paid)/IC/EQP, break out IC spend if you can
Pseudo Nim 139 (116)/85/192K, of which $18K in IC
Boekel 85 (70)55/170K, of which $15K in IC
Tim O'Brien 29 IC Nights 2 Non IC IHG nights, 341,976 EQP
scubaccr 55 paid IC Nights , us$13,000++ / 4paid non-IC nights us$900++ (plus 8x IC reward nights, 20x non-IC reward nights) <== Sorry.. forgot to cop exact EQP values before 1/1/2018 acct zeroing
Cielito_ 81/77/5 - $7,353 F&B + $11,656 Room = $19,009 IC net spend - EQP 468,000 (First Time RA)
hclee01 50 IC us$13k++
Land-of-Miles ?? IC us$10.5k++
cazane 60 IC us$11.8k++
VaBeachGirl 54 IC us$13k++
PiffPaffPuff 60IC us$25k++
??????? 35 IC us$10.2k++ <== first time RA ref PiffPaffPuff colleague
Spitcool 40 IC us$15k++
Eltham 40 IC us$12k++
shoven 43 IC us$15k++ <== first time RA
skaya (partner) ?? IC us$10.2k++ <== renewed
darby1970 62 IC us$13k++
The Mileage Millionaire 102 paid IHG nights / 100 paid IC nights / 229k EQP / $22.7k++ IC spend
Orion_1 8 nights at IC, spent at 2 properties - USD 10,200 in total at ICs (honeymoon...)
HadesNL Elite qualifying points: 239,095, Qualifying nights: 39
Aussielori 50 IC us$8k++ 9.2k overall renewed on 16 jan
04 JAN 2018 RA LOSS STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
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tarek.h ?? IC us$9.1k++
sharps1337 IC us$9.9k++ (and 129 non-IC us$17k++ )
04 JAN 2017 RA RENEWAL STATS (Please include 2016 y/end EQP count)
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NAME.... IHG/IC/IC's EQP $$$$s
SCUBACCR 80/56/13 EQP=14,979 (Split $12864 + $2115)
HANNES08 76/46/10 EQP=11,200
OZ_CATALYST 75/63/8 EQP=14,700 (first Time RA) ($12414 at ICs)
TAREK.H 46/37/4 EQP=14.500 ($10,917 IC Spend)
TravelTheWorld66 147/33/11 EQP=27.972 ($8500 IC Spend)
HCLEE01 67/50/6 EQP=14880
ATACAMA40 82/56/10 EQP=??,???
VaBeachGirl 84/42/12 EQP=15,000
Land-of-Miles 87/73/10 EQP=40,000
SSH4POOH 132/99/28 EQP=50,000
???????? 75/35/8 EQP=??,??? (First Time RA, ref SSH4POOH)
iThink 82/36/11 EQP = 18,200
aussielori 75/45/5 EQP =15,100
1010101 50/48/4 = 12,500
MYSTERY7 63/45/? EQP=25,000 (First Time RA)
EmeraldLady 68/42/10 EQP=15,500
NKU 86/80/5 EQP=20,000
Petrus 110/40/3 EQP=20,000 ($8500 IC Spend)
JOHHENRIK 74/65/10 EQP=16,800
SyLance 76/76/4 EQP=17,500 (RA again after 3years missed)
Pseudo Nim 90/58/15 IC spend $9,500, $17K across chain (175K EQP)
Tim O'Brien 58 nights, EQP 474,576 , July 31, 2017 Year End, renewed to Dec 29, 2017
HadesNL 22/20/7 and us$20,000 ref two posts.
PROTEOME 53/36/? $25,000 (Plus further 30x IC Non-qual nights and 18 IC Award nights) <== nb Maybe/Maybe-Not the IC Non-qual $$'s count as about half EQPs spend, probably > 10k IC qual spend
Chinatrvl 88 nights (in all brands, but c. 75 in ICs), 300,000 EQP, ADR c. 115 USD as I stayed mostly on a locally negotiated rate (spend c. 10k USD)
Unterwegs 78(my count 86)/63/10/285.000 (according to email, I would have expected less. my spending estimate is 15-20K$)
Lewis42 77/39/10 EQP=16010
Whimike 88/35/12 EQP=14220
04 JAN 2017 RA Demotion to xxx Ambassador stats (if > 75/30/3)
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NAME IHG/IC/IC's EQP $$$$s
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update from Executive Liaison Sept, 2023,
spend at other IHG luxury brands does count for RA, and Renewal.
Brands weren't stated, but reasonable to assume Six Senses, Regent, and Kimpton.
$18k Kimpton / IC (about $2k kimpton)
stays in 4 continents
been Ra for ~3-4 years
ID;Name;Confirm;Kit msg; Revenue ;Nights;Challenge?;Additional Info
40;stimpy;+;none; $9,000.00 ;50;?;RA since 2001 - exceptional renewal
38;turner32;-;none; $9,000.00 ;?;?;8/9 years as RA
49;hannes08;+;01/16/2019; $9,990.00 ;52;2000;renewal probably because of challenge
17;Lewis42;+;12/27/2018; $10,000.00 ;?;2000;renewal probably because of challenge
27;scienm;+;none; $10,032.00 ;32;?;8 years RA
25;hclee01;+;none; $10,142.16 ;37;?;current RA since 2014 - manual renewal
18;annihilation;-;none; $10,605.00 ;39;?;
51;crosskonaftw;?;none; $10,700.00 ;35;?;not yet RA
30;Land-of-Miles;+;none; $10,999.00 ;19;?;
16;Kimsbrand;-;none; $11,297.88 ;5;?;not RA yet. 13,532.92 USD total?
48;Urby38;+;12/27/2018; $11,300.00 ;47;?;Royal since 2012
42;SAWorldVoyager;?;12/21/2018; $11,391.52 ;?;?;
14;Cielito_;+;none; $11,511.00 ;62;no;77/62/8 with 12042 USD after batch
45;whimike;+;none; $11,700.00 ;?;?;RA for about 7 years
10;Unterwegs;+;12/27/2018; $12,000.00 ;52;yes;
44;serendipity1211;+;01/16/2019; $12,300.00 ;45;no;first-time RA
28;cazane;+;12/27/2018; $12,600.00 ;61;no;4 prepaid nights not posted until 27th 11890 -> 12600
11;VaBeachGirl;+;12/27/2018; $12,750.00 ;68;no;
50;lukah;?;none; $12,800.00 ;80;?;3 years RA
15;336;-;none; $12,900.00 ;16;2000;NOT completed challenge / Lots of adjusted stays
1;DonPedro;+;12/21/2018; $12,971.00 ;49;no;
47;SD2019;+;none; $13,000.00 ;35;no;stays erroneously adjusted or marked as overlapping
36;BRUSS;+;01/16/2019; $13,001.00 ;?;?;
13;Tim O'Brien;+;12/27/2018; $14,017.00 ;26;?; Kimpton;
33;marlin1978;?;12/27/2018; $14,182.00 ;46;no;
26;Kaix;?;12/27/2018; $14,400.00 ;63;?;
9;Pseudo Nim;+;12/27/2018; $14,600.00 ;73;?;
41;PMMMDL;?;?; $15,000.00 ;50;?;
23;nicolas75;?;12/27/2018; $15,000.00 ;81;?;
5;sharps1337;+;12/21/2018; $15,200.00 ;79;no;
3;Raynyan (friend2);?;12/21/2018; $15,500.00 ;69;no;
22;pantanal;+;12/27/2018; $16,000.00 ;?;?;
24;vsevolod4;+;12/27/2018; $16,319.00 ;84;no;
34;boekel;?;12/27/2018; $16,950.00 ;60;no;
21;ILS2;+;none; $17,000.00 ;40;?;
8;skaya (2x);+;12/27/2018; $17,000.00 ;?;?;
7;shoven;+;12/27/2018; $17,304.00 ;50;?;
51;EmeraldLady;+;12/27/2018; $18,000.00 ;47;?;
32;Mr. Chan;?;12/21/2018; $19,582.00 ;45;yes;completed challenge
46;kaka;+;12/21/2018; $20,001.00 ;34;no;
31;christenlabelle;?;none; $22,000.00 ;51;1k + Kimpton;
39;marcel.baden;?;12/27/2018; $22,000.00 ;77;?;
35;Flying Lawyer;?;12/27/2018; $22,135.00 ;70;?;
37;Roey007;?;none; $25,000.00 ;42;?;9 years RA - 9k adjustment: no kit message with 11k before
12;IThink;+;12/27/2018; $25,000.00 ;85;no;
19;HadesNL;+;12/27/2018; $28,273.90 ;52;?;
4;Raynyan (friend3);?;12/21/2018; $30,000.00 ;73;no;
29;btravers33;?;12/27/2018; $30,000.00 ;98;?;
2;Raynyan (friend1);?;12/21/2018; $32,000.00 ;75;no;
20;Raynyan;+;12/27/2018; ? ;70;?;~30 nights not counted somehow
6;samjnz;?;12/21/2018; ? ;?;2000;
04 JAN 2018 RA RENEWAL STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
================================================== =====
NAME.... IHG total (paid)/IC/EQP, break out IC spend if you can
Pseudo Nim 139 (116)/85/192K, of which $18K in IC
Boekel 85 (70)55/170K, of which $15K in IC
Tim O'Brien 29 IC Nights 2 Non IC IHG nights, 341,976 EQP
scubaccr 55 paid IC Nights , us$13,000++ / 4paid non-IC nights us$900++ (plus 8x IC reward nights, 20x non-IC reward nights) <== Sorry.. forgot to cop exact EQP values before 1/1/2018 acct zeroing
Cielito_ 81/77/5 - $7,353 F&B + $11,656 Room = $19,009 IC net spend - EQP 468,000 (First Time RA)
hclee01 50 IC us$13k++
Land-of-Miles ?? IC us$10.5k++
cazane 60 IC us$11.8k++
VaBeachGirl 54 IC us$13k++
PiffPaffPuff 60IC us$25k++
??????? 35 IC us$10.2k++ <== first time RA ref PiffPaffPuff colleague
Spitcool 40 IC us$15k++
Eltham 40 IC us$12k++
shoven 43 IC us$15k++ <== first time RA
skaya (partner) ?? IC us$10.2k++ <== renewed
darby1970 62 IC us$13k++
The Mileage Millionaire 102 paid IHG nights / 100 paid IC nights / 229k EQP / $22.7k++ IC spend
Orion_1 8 nights at IC, spent at 2 properties - USD 10,200 in total at ICs (honeymoon...)
HadesNL Elite qualifying points: 239,095, Qualifying nights: 39
Aussielori 50 IC us$8k++ 9.2k overall renewed on 16 jan
04 JAN 2018 RA LOSS STATS [put total IHG vs. IC if you can]
================================================== =====
tarek.h ?? IC us$9.1k++
sharps1337 IC us$9.9k++ (and 129 non-IC us$17k++ )
04 JAN 2017 RA RENEWAL STATS (Please include 2016 y/end EQP count)
================================================== =====
NAME.... IHG/IC/IC's EQP $$$$s
SCUBACCR 80/56/13 EQP=14,979 (Split $12864 + $2115)
HANNES08 76/46/10 EQP=11,200
OZ_CATALYST 75/63/8 EQP=14,700 (first Time RA) ($12414 at ICs)
TAREK.H 46/37/4 EQP=14.500 ($10,917 IC Spend)
TravelTheWorld66 147/33/11 EQP=27.972 ($8500 IC Spend)
HCLEE01 67/50/6 EQP=14880
ATACAMA40 82/56/10 EQP=??,???
VaBeachGirl 84/42/12 EQP=15,000
Land-of-Miles 87/73/10 EQP=40,000
SSH4POOH 132/99/28 EQP=50,000
???????? 75/35/8 EQP=??,??? (First Time RA, ref SSH4POOH)
iThink 82/36/11 EQP = 18,200
aussielori 75/45/5 EQP =15,100
1010101 50/48/4 = 12,500
MYSTERY7 63/45/? EQP=25,000 (First Time RA)
EmeraldLady 68/42/10 EQP=15,500
NKU 86/80/5 EQP=20,000
Petrus 110/40/3 EQP=20,000 ($8500 IC Spend)
JOHHENRIK 74/65/10 EQP=16,800
SyLance 76/76/4 EQP=17,500 (RA again after 3years missed)
Pseudo Nim 90/58/15 IC spend $9,500, $17K across chain (175K EQP)
Tim O'Brien 58 nights, EQP 474,576 , July 31, 2017 Year End, renewed to Dec 29, 2017
HadesNL 22/20/7 and us$20,000 ref two posts.
PROTEOME 53/36/? $25,000 (Plus further 30x IC Non-qual nights and 18 IC Award nights) <== nb Maybe/Maybe-Not the IC Non-qual $$'s count as about half EQPs spend, probably > 10k IC qual spend
Chinatrvl 88 nights (in all brands, but c. 75 in ICs), 300,000 EQP, ADR c. 115 USD as I stayed mostly on a locally negotiated rate (spend c. 10k USD)
Unterwegs 78(my count 86)/63/10/285.000 (according to email, I would have expected less. my spending estimate is 15-20K$)
Lewis42 77/39/10 EQP=16010
Whimike 88/35/12 EQP=14220
04 JAN 2017 RA Demotion to xxx Ambassador stats (if > 75/30/3)
==================================================
NAME IHG/IC/IC's EQP $$$$s
[Archived - no longer valid] New (Royal) Ambassador Criteria
A document was unintentionally available in the internet about changes to the (Royal) Ambassador Qualifying and Re-Qualifying criteria.
The document is available on
http://viewfromthewing.img.boardinga...Ambassador.pdf
Older discussion
There was an ongoing discussion about the criteria for some time. This thread is now closed.
update from Executive Liaison Sept, 2023,
spend at other IHG luxury brands does count for RA, and Renewal.
Brands weren't stated, but reasonable to assume Six Senses, Regent, and Kimpton.
New RA qualifying criteria based on IC Revenue
Jan 10, 2017, 9:00 pm
#1546
Original Poster
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: NYC
Programs: IHG, RC, HH, AA, QF, UA, Aeroplan
Posts: 2,690
i'm having a disagreement with IHG, as i have plenty precedents (from the same property for the same dates for the past several years), checking in one year, checking out the next, and getting the stay/nights/total points/EQP's etc for the new year, all counting towards RA, and Spire.
i had three reservations, with two free nights, but most importantly the in 31st, out 1st, was a paid night, and under the T&C imposed by IHG, irrespective of how many reservations/confirmation numbers etc, how many times you check in and check out, if they are consecutive nights, it's classified as the one stay.
i had one very helpful lass in Makati, who did do some work on it, and whilst the line items are in the account, it hasn't accrued to the summary of points, and nights at the top.
it wasn't an inexpensive stay, and will annoy me if it is assigned to 2016, when it is really 2017, until i get them to remedy it.
Jan 10, 2017, 11:54 pm
#1547
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Amsterdam, Asia, UK
Programs: IHG RA (Spire), HH Diamond, MR Platinum, SQ Gold, KLM Gold, BAEC Gold
Posts: 5,072
yeah, even this year i had a stay that commenced Dec 26, for seven nights, out Jan 2.
i'm having a disagreement with IHG, as i have plenty precedents (from the same property for the same dates for the past several years), checking in one year, checking out the next, and getting the stay/nights/total points/EQP's etc for the new year, all counting towards RA, and Spire.
i had three reservations, with two free nights, but most importantly the in 31st, out 1st, was a paid night, and under the T&C imposed by IHG, irrespective of how many reservations/confirmation numbers etc, how many times you check in and check out, if they are consecutive nights, it's classified as the one stay.
i had one very helpful lass in Makati, who did do some work on it, and whilst the line items are in the account, it hasn't accrued to the summary of points, and nights at the top.
it wasn't an inexpensive stay, and will annoy me if it is assigned to 2016, when it is really 2017, until i get them to remedy it.
i'm having a disagreement with IHG, as i have plenty precedents (from the same property for the same dates for the past several years), checking in one year, checking out the next, and getting the stay/nights/total points/EQP's etc for the new year, all counting towards RA, and Spire.
i had three reservations, with two free nights, but most importantly the in 31st, out 1st, was a paid night, and under the T&C imposed by IHG, irrespective of how many reservations/confirmation numbers etc, how many times you check in and check out, if they are consecutive nights, it's classified as the one stay.
i had one very helpful lass in Makati, who did do some work on it, and whilst the line items are in the account, it hasn't accrued to the summary of points, and nights at the top.
it wasn't an inexpensive stay, and will annoy me if it is assigned to 2016, when it is really 2017, until i get them to remedy it.
The two reasons hotel chains have specified in t+c's ....
Consecutive nights made up of multiple bookings will count as one stay
...that I know of are
A)To prevent split booking stays being awarded multiple "stay bonuses" for a single stay
B)Where Elite Status can be either on Stays or nights (does not really apply to IHG, but does to eg HH )
For IHG I am sure you are out of luck, and if you were helped in the past, you should not have been.
I guess it only matters to you now as RA requal going forwards is scored based on both nights + $$$ spend posted to 2017 statistics.
Previously it did not matter to you as your own Amb/RA year was aug-july, as RA you won't need the points/night towards Spire, and I can't believe with number of IC nights you will do during 2017 that it will matter.
I have multinights stays across NY at IHG hotels historically and as per IHG t+c's the night count + points accrue to the nights checkin date (not the checkout date of the night), afterall you reserved/booked night under checkin date so that's what it posts as.
eg
A stay with checkin on 28th Dec 2016, checkout 4th Jan 2017 should post as the first 4x 2016 nights to accounts 2016 totals , and the 3x 2017 nights to the acounts 2017 totals.
(only 2017 benefit from those first 4x 2016 nights would be as 4x more Rollover Nights added to 2017 score)
IHG correctly posted the points and 1-night-stay-credit for your stay on night of 31st December to your 2016 totals. If the spanned yrear had a stay bonus, that bonus goes with checkout as being the completion of a stay.
My IHG stays spanning the year end always posted as split across year boundary with 31st Dec night posting to previous night.
The only hotel program I use that is different is HH, where for a stay spanning and checking out in New Year, all nights+points (+ 1stay credit) post to 2017 values.
Really annoying if need stay/nights in prev calendar year to keep ones HHG/HHD status
I noted this time accelerator ended 15th Dec 2016 and new accelerator starts 1st Jan 2017, whereas in 2015 accelerator ended 31st Dec 2015 and next started 1st Jan 2016
Jan 11, 2017, 12:30 am
#1548
Original Poster
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: NYC
Programs: IHG, RC, HH, AA, QF, UA, Aeroplan
Posts: 2,690
Sorry Tim, I see above as IHG correctly posting 31st Dec night to your 2016 nights/spend totals. Creditting is definitely based on nights checkin date, not the term "stay" no matter how you or IHG try to define stay.
The two reasons hotel chains have specified in t+c's ....
Consecutive nights made up of multiple bookings will count as one stay
...that I know of are
A)To prevent split booking stays being awarded multiple "stay bonuses" for a single stay
B)Where Elite Status can be either on Stays or nights (does not really apply to IHG, but does to eg HH )
For IHG I am sure you are out of luck, and if you were helped in the past, you should not have been.
I guess it only matters to you now as RA requal going forwards is scored based on both nights + $$$ spend posted to 2017 statistics.
Previously it did not matter to you as your own Amb/RA year was aug-july, as RA you won't need the points/night towards Spire, and I can't believe with number of IC nights you will do during 2017 that it will matter.
I have multinights stays across NY at IHG hotels historically and as per IHG t+c's the night count + points accrue to the nights checkin date (not the checkout date of the night), afterall you reserved/booked night under checkin date so that's what it posts as.
eg
A stay with checkin on 28th Dec 2016, checkout 4th Jan 2017 should post as the first 4x 2016 nights to accounts 2016 totals , and the 3x 2017 nights to the acounts 2017 totals.
(only 2017 benefit from those first 4x 2016 nights would be as 4x more Rollover Nights added to 2017 score)
IHG correctly posted the points and 1-night-stay-credit for your stay on night of 31st December to your 2016 totals. If the spanned yrear had a stay bonus, that bonus goes with checkout as being the completion of a stay.
My IHG stays spanning the year end always posted as split across year boundary with 31st Dec night posting to previous night.
The only hotel program I use that is different is HH, where for a stay spanning and checking out in New Year, all nights+points (+ 1stay credit) post to 2017 values.
Really annoying if need stay/nights in prev calendar year to keep ones HHG/HHD status
I noted this time accelerator ended 15th Dec 2016 and new accelerator starts 1st Jan 2017, whereas in 2015 accelerator ended 31st Dec 2015 and next started 1st Jan 2016
The two reasons hotel chains have specified in t+c's ....
Consecutive nights made up of multiple bookings will count as one stay
...that I know of are
A)To prevent split booking stays being awarded multiple "stay bonuses" for a single stay
B)Where Elite Status can be either on Stays or nights (does not really apply to IHG, but does to eg HH )
For IHG I am sure you are out of luck, and if you were helped in the past, you should not have been.
I guess it only matters to you now as RA requal going forwards is scored based on both nights + $$$ spend posted to 2017 statistics.
Previously it did not matter to you as your own Amb/RA year was aug-july, as RA you won't need the points/night towards Spire, and I can't believe with number of IC nights you will do during 2017 that it will matter.
I have multinights stays across NY at IHG hotels historically and as per IHG t+c's the night count + points accrue to the nights checkin date (not the checkout date of the night), afterall you reserved/booked night under checkin date so that's what it posts as.
eg
A stay with checkin on 28th Dec 2016, checkout 4th Jan 2017 should post as the first 4x 2016 nights to accounts 2016 totals , and the 3x 2017 nights to the acounts 2017 totals.
(only 2017 benefit from those first 4x 2016 nights would be as 4x more Rollover Nights added to 2017 score)
IHG correctly posted the points and 1-night-stay-credit for your stay on night of 31st December to your 2016 totals. If the spanned yrear had a stay bonus, that bonus goes with checkout as being the completion of a stay.
My IHG stays spanning the year end always posted as split across year boundary with 31st Dec night posting to previous night.
The only hotel program I use that is different is HH, where for a stay spanning and checking out in New Year, all nights+points (+ 1stay credit) post to 2017 values.
Really annoying if need stay/nights in prev calendar year to keep ones HHG/HHD status
I noted this time accelerator ended 15th Dec 2016 and new accelerator starts 1st Jan 2017, whereas in 2015 accelerator ended 31st Dec 2015 and next started 1st Jan 2016
i got it resolved tonight, it took over an hour, and a half, with three reps, an agent, a supervisor, then the manager, who i had dealt with previously. nice lady.
until this evening, the night of the 31st was the only night they had as qualified for 2017, as the night of the 1st was a BOGO free night.
i added the balance of the EQP's from the three reservations, 95,191, and she moved them into 2017.
i had stayed last year same property, same dates, checked out one night earlier so eight night stay last year, seven night stay this year, both over the new year, and had the precedent, all nights, and points from the '15/'16 stay posted in 2016, so i went through that first.
good outcome.
Last edited by Tim O'Brien; Jan 11, 2017 at 12:38 am
Jan 11, 2017, 12:35 am
#1549
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the air
Programs: Occasional RTW club
Posts: 6,924
Sorry Tim, I see above as IHG correctly posting 31st Dec night to your 2016 nights/spend totals. Creditting is definitely based on nights checkin date, not the term "stay" no matter how you or IHG try to define stay.
The two reasons hotel chains have specified in t+c's ....
Consecutive nights made up of multiple bookings will count as one stay
...that I know of are
A)To prevent split booking stays being awarded multiple "stay bonuses" for a single stay
B)Where Elite Status can be either on Stays or nights (does not really apply to IHG, but does to eg HH )
For IHG I am sure you are out of luck, and if you were helped in the past, you should not have been.
I guess it only matters to you now as RA requal going forwards is scored based on both nights + $$$ spend posted to 2017 statistics.
Previously it did not matter to you as your own Amb/RA year was aug-july, as RA you won't need the points/night towards Spire, and I can't believe with number of IC nights you will do during 2017 that it will matter.
I have multinights stays across NY at IHG hotels historically and as per IHG t+c's the night count + points accrue to the nights checkin date (not the checkout date of the night), afterall you reserved/booked night under checkin date so that's what it posts as.
eg
A stay with checkin on 28th Dec 2016, checkout 4th Jan 2017 should post as the first 4x 2016 nights to accounts 2016 totals , and the 3x 2017 nights to the acounts 2017 totals.
(only 2017 benefit from those first 4x 2016 nights would be as 4x more Rollover Nights added to 2017 score)
IHG correctly posted the points and 1-night-stay-credit for your stay on night of 31st December to your 2016 totals. If the spanned yrear had a stay bonus, that bonus goes with checkout as being the completion of a stay.
My IHG stays spanning the year end always posted as split across year boundary with 31st Dec night posting to previous night.
The only hotel program I use that is different is HH, where for a stay spanning and checking out in New Year, all nights+points (+ 1stay credit) post to 2017 values.
Really annoying if need stay/nights in prev calendar year to keep ones HHG/HHD status
I noted this time accelerator ended 15th Dec 2016 and new accelerator starts 1st Jan 2017, whereas in 2015 accelerator ended 31st Dec 2015 and next started 1st Jan 2016
The two reasons hotel chains have specified in t+c's ....
Consecutive nights made up of multiple bookings will count as one stay
...that I know of are
A)To prevent split booking stays being awarded multiple "stay bonuses" for a single stay
B)Where Elite Status can be either on Stays or nights (does not really apply to IHG, but does to eg HH )
For IHG I am sure you are out of luck, and if you were helped in the past, you should not have been.
I guess it only matters to you now as RA requal going forwards is scored based on both nights + $$$ spend posted to 2017 statistics.
Previously it did not matter to you as your own Amb/RA year was aug-july, as RA you won't need the points/night towards Spire, and I can't believe with number of IC nights you will do during 2017 that it will matter.
I have multinights stays across NY at IHG hotels historically and as per IHG t+c's the night count + points accrue to the nights checkin date (not the checkout date of the night), afterall you reserved/booked night under checkin date so that's what it posts as.
eg
A stay with checkin on 28th Dec 2016, checkout 4th Jan 2017 should post as the first 4x 2016 nights to accounts 2016 totals , and the 3x 2017 nights to the acounts 2017 totals.
(only 2017 benefit from those first 4x 2016 nights would be as 4x more Rollover Nights added to 2017 score)
IHG correctly posted the points and 1-night-stay-credit for your stay on night of 31st December to your 2016 totals. If the spanned yrear had a stay bonus, that bonus goes with checkout as being the completion of a stay.
My IHG stays spanning the year end always posted as split across year boundary with 31st Dec night posting to previous night.
The only hotel program I use that is different is HH, where for a stay spanning and checking out in New Year, all nights+points (+ 1stay credit) post to 2017 values.
Really annoying if need stay/nights in prev calendar year to keep ones HHG/HHD status
I noted this time accelerator ended 15th Dec 2016 and new accelerator starts 1st Jan 2017, whereas in 2015 accelerator ended 31st Dec 2015 and next started 1st Jan 2016
Jan 11, 2017, 1:15 am
#1550
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: BNE
Programs: QF Gold, VA Gold, IHG Spire, Accor Plat, Marriot Plat, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,281
IHG have always posted based on checkout for me, and promos are inclusive so they post for both periods in that case. I don't believe Scubaccr's info is reflective of reality or the experience of others.
Jan 11, 2017, 1:18 am
#1551
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Amsterdam, Asia, UK
Programs: IHG RA (Spire), HH Diamond, MR Platinum, SQ Gold, KLM Gold, BAEC Gold
Posts: 5,072
Only time I had previous year nights post in wrong/next year was IC-Manila, and I put that down to being 30+31 Dec 2015 nights with hotel closing for good on 1st Jan 2016.... Both 30th + 31st 2015 nights posted to 2016 calendar year.
In fact the IC Manila stay posted few days later than normal too, I put that down to many staff being let go immediately hotel closed.
Earlier years spanned stays, eg IC Bucharest posted as split over both old and new calendar years
Didn't matter to me for 4Q2015 accelerate promo, my Ra Year (Sep-aug) or my @Rewards year jan2016-dec2016 so never queried it with ihg helpdesk
Jan 11, 2017, 2:24 am
#1552
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Berkshire
Programs: BAEC GGL/CCR/LTG
Posts: 684
So, do you think that if I now get to 30-40 IC nights between June 2016 and June 2017 and keep my spend level up to the 2016 rate, then I might get back to RA? Or, is it the boards belief that the approvals will be done on a calendar year basis?
Jan 11, 2017, 2:40 am
#1553
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 5,797
This is all completely speculation, but i would guess from the renewals and extensions that theyre bringing everyone onto calendar years.
Jan 11, 2017, 6:21 am
#1554
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Germany, Austria
Programs: IHG Diamond Ambassador, ALL Silver,, Miles&More
Posts: 1,122
If you look at it this way, Rewards Club and RA go together, and you have to earn your status, and therefore Ambassador program should be treated seperately and renamed if to be continued (has not much to do any more with RA concept except that it is for IC guests) - a program to pay for.
Jan 11, 2017, 8:04 am
#1555
Original Poster
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: NYC
Programs: IHG, RC, HH, AA, QF, UA, Aeroplan
Posts: 2,690
that's been my experience too.
i believe the reason i had issues with this stay is i had three reservations, including a BOGO, and a free night, but the critical night was the link btw the two years, NY'S eve, which was a paid night.
last year i had seven reservations over eight nights
for two suites, and was given the nights, points et to 2016.
Jan 11, 2017, 8:16 am
#1556
Original Poster
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: NYC
Programs: IHG, RC, HH, AA, QF, UA, Aeroplan
Posts: 2,690
I believed it was meant to be the way I described, both under t+c's and my personal experiences on spanned year stays.
Only time I had previous year nights post in wrong/next year was IC-Manila, and I put that down to being 30+31 Dec 2015 nights with hotel closing for good on 1st Jan 2016.... Both 30th + 31st 2015 nights posted to 2016 calendar year.
In fact the IC Manila stay posted few days later than normal too, I put that down to many staff being let go immediately hotel closed.
Earlier years spanned stays, eg IC Bucharest posted as split over both old and new calendar years
Didn't matter to me for 4Q2015 accelerate promo, my Ra Year (Sep-aug) or my @Rewards year jan2016-dec2016 so never queried it with ihg helpdesk
Only time I had previous year nights post in wrong/next year was IC-Manila, and I put that down to being 30+31 Dec 2015 nights with hotel closing for good on 1st Jan 2016.... Both 30th + 31st 2015 nights posted to 2016 calendar year.
In fact the IC Manila stay posted few days later than normal too, I put that down to many staff being let go immediately hotel closed.
Earlier years spanned stays, eg IC Bucharest posted as split over both old and new calendar years
Didn't matter to me for 4Q2015 accelerate promo, my Ra Year (Sep-aug) or my @Rewards year jan2016-dec2016 so never queried it with ihg helpdesk
Jan 11, 2017, 11:10 am
#1558
Original Poster
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: NYC
Programs: IHG, RC, HH, AA, QF, UA, Aeroplan
Posts: 2,690
So Royal Ambassador and IHG Rewards Club = Calendar year, and Ambassador = Ambassador year?
If you look at it this way, Rewards Club and RA go together, and you have to earn your status, and therefore Ambassador program should be treated seperately and renamed if to be continued (has not much to do any more with RA concept except that it is for IC guests) - a program to pay for.
If you look at it this way, Rewards Club and RA go together, and you have to earn your status, and therefore Ambassador program should be treated seperately and renamed if to be continued (has not much to do any more with RA concept except that it is for IC guests) - a program to pay for.
Jan 11, 2017, 12:29 pm
#1559
Original Poster
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: NYC
Programs: IHG, RC, HH, AA, QF, UA, Aeroplan
Posts: 2,690
Accelerate commenced Jan 1st, 2017, and i see for my nights target they have on my scoreboard:
Completed stay at The Willard Washington D.C., Washington, 12/25/2016 - 12/29/2016
i wasn't even there on the 25th Dec, and i checked out on Jan 2!
Completed stay at The Willard Washington D.C., Washington, 12/25/2016 - 12/29/2016
i wasn't even there on the 25th Dec, and i checked out on Jan 2!
Jan 13, 2017, 12:27 am
#1560
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Shanghai and Bavaria
Programs: Spire RA, 1865 Voyager, Bonvoy Titanium, FB LP, LH SEN.
Posts: 3,104
"Ambassador members never sit still"
Got an email today reviewing my 2016 stays. Therefore, I can add following data point. Renewed as RA with
88 nights (in all brands, but c. 75 in ICs)
300,000 EQP
ADR c. 115 USD as I stayed mostly on a locally negotiated rate (spend c. 10k USD)
88 nights (in all brands, but c. 75 in ICs)
300,000 EQP
ADR c. 115 USD as I stayed mostly on a locally negotiated rate (spend c. 10k USD)
Last edited by Chinatrvl; Jan 13, 2017 at 12:34 am