Hidden City ticketing
Jul 23, 2019 | 9:17 am
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Hidden City ticketing
Hi all
Wanted to get views / opinions on this.
I have the option to depart from A - B and then return B - A - C which is a lot cheaper than a straight A-B return.
I don't intend to check in bags so can I just drop the A-C leg on my return journey.
Its a European airline.
Wanted to get views / opinions on this.
I have the option to depart from A - B and then return B - A - C which is a lot cheaper than a straight A-B return.
I don't intend to check in bags so can I just drop the A-C leg on my return journey.
Its a European airline.
Jul 23, 2019 | 9:38 am
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General consensus is that if you do not make a habit of doing this you should be ok. Just also be aware that in case of IRROPS the airline could re-route you to C and that may not be via A.
Jul 23, 2019 | 10:52 am
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The airline in question does not fly from B to C, so it is with a partner airline. But the ticket is essentially from A - B outbound and B - A - C inbound with the carrier operating A - B and B - A and B - C is operated by another carrier. But its one ticket.
Jul 23, 2019 | 10:54 am
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What is IRROPS?
Jul 23, 2019 | 11:34 am
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Jul 23, 2019 | 11:44 am
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Not sure why A C and C are relevant in answering the question?
The airline in question does not fly from B to C, so it is with a partner airline. But the ticket is essentially from A - B outbound and B - A - C inbound with the carrier operating A - B and B - A and B - C is operated by another carrier. But its one ticket.
The airline in question does not fly from B to C, so it is with a partner airline. But the ticket is essentially from A - B outbound and B - A - C inbound with the carrier operating A - B and B - A and B - C is operated by another carrier. But its one ticket.
Just because a partner carrier is operating the last leg doesn't necessarily preclude a rerouting due to IRROPS. It's possible a cancelation on the "B to A' return segment could result in you rerouted via that same partner - or even a different partner airline - instead, and not touching "A" at all. It's probably not a huge chance in most cases may still be possible. Knowing what airlines and routes involved might provide a better guesstimate of the risk of that occurring.
Jul 23, 2019 | 11:52 am
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Details can help with nuances in particular circumstances/airlines that may affect your decision. The airline isn't going to find you out and hunt you down based on a Flyertalk posting!
Just because a partner carrier is operating the last leg doesn't necessarily preclude a rerouting due to IRROPS. It's possible a cancelation on the "B to A' return segment could result in you rerouted via that same partner - or even a different partner airline - instead, and not touching "A" at all. It's probably not a huge chance in most cases may still be possible. Knowing what airlines and routes involved might provide a better guesstimate of the risk of that occurring.
Just because a partner carrier is operating the last leg doesn't necessarily preclude a rerouting due to IRROPS. It's possible a cancelation on the "B to A' return segment could result in you rerouted via that same partner - or even a different partner airline - instead, and not touching "A" at all. It's probably not a huge chance in most cases may still be possible. Knowing what airlines and routes involved might provide a better guesstimate of the risk of that occurring.
Jul 23, 2019 | 1:59 pm
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Not sure why A C and C are relevant in answering the question?
The airline in question does not fly from B to C, so it is with a partner airline. But the ticket is essentially from A - B outbound and B - A - C inbound with the carrier operating A - B and B - A and B - C is operated by another carrier. But its one ticket.
The airline in question does not fly from B to C, so it is with a partner airline. But the ticket is essentially from A - B outbound and B - A - C inbound with the carrier operating A - B and B - A and B - C is operated by another carrier. But its one ticket.
Jul 23, 2019 | 2:03 pm
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Not sure why A C and C are relevant in answering the question?
The airline in question does not fly from B to C, so it is with a partner airline. But the ticket is essentially from A - B outbound and B - A - C inbound with the carrier operating A - B and B - A and B - C is operated by another carrier. But its one ticket.
The airline in question does not fly from B to C, so it is with a partner airline. But the ticket is essentially from A - B outbound and B - A - C inbound with the carrier operating A - B and B - A and B - C is operated by another carrier. But its one ticket.
Thus, the answer to your questions are:
1. Depending on where A-B and C are, this may or may not be a problem, logistical or otherwise.
2. Depending on what you mean by "partner airline" and which airlines they are, this may or may not be a problem, logistical or otherwise.
Jul 23, 2019 | 11:22 pm
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Are you thinking about dropping C to A on the outbound? Otherwise I’m a little surprised that the ticket construction works out cheaper. If you do drop that first leg, the whole ticket will auto-cancel.
Jul 24, 2019 | 4:13 am
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You may not see why these are relevant, but as you can see they are.
Thus, the answer to your questions are:
1. Depending on where A-B and C are, this may or may not be a problem, logistical or otherwise.
2. Depending on what you mean by "partner airline" and which airlines they are, this may or may not be a problem, logistical or otherwise.
Thus, the answer to your questions are:
1. Depending on where A-B and C are, this may or may not be a problem, logistical or otherwise.
2. Depending on what you mean by "partner airline" and which airlines they are, this may or may not be a problem, logistical or otherwise.
I think the point is being missed - I have no concerns about being rerouted or about luggage - more about the principal of what I'm doing.
Jul 24, 2019 | 6:32 am
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And, for the OP's question: I think in Europe, it's fairly safe to do hidden-city ticketing. Stipulations by the airlines that prohibit it may actually be legally void.
Jul 24, 2019 | 8:43 am
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It's not surprising. Every travel hacking intro I know will tell you to try not just 1x/4x, but also 3x (the case of the OP) and 1x. 2x seem to be suggested less frequently.
And, for the OP's question: I think in Europe, it's fairly safe to do hidden-city ticketing. Stipulations by the airlines that prohibit it may actually be legally void.
And, for the OP's question: I think in Europe, it's fairly safe to do hidden-city ticketing. Stipulations by the airlines that prohibit it may actually be legally void.