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Hidden City ticketing
Hi all
Wanted to get views / opinions on this. I have the option to depart from A - B and then return B - A - C which is a lot cheaper than a straight A-B return. I don't intend to check in bags so can I just drop the A-C leg on my return journey. Its a European airline. |
What are A, C, and C?
What is the carrier? Without very specific information, you will get generalized answers. None of those are anything you ought to depend on. |
Originally Posted by ecfc29
(Post 31333447)
Hi all
Wanted to get views / opinions on this. I have the option to depart from A - B and then return B - A - C which is a lot cheaper than a straight A-B return. I don't intend to check in bags so can I just drop the A-C leg on my return journey. Its a European airline. |
Originally Posted by Often1
(Post 31333523)
What are A, C, and C?
What is the carrier? Without very specific information, you will get generalized answers. None of those are anything you ought to depend on. The airline in question does not fly from B to C, so it is with a partner airline. But the ticket is essentially from A - B outbound and B - A - C inbound with the carrier operating A - B and B - A and B - C is operated by another carrier. But its one ticket. |
Originally Posted by eyeballer
(Post 31333562)
General consensus is that if you do not make a habit of doing this you should be ok. Just also be aware that in case of IRROPS the airline could re-route you to C and that may not be via A.
What is IRROPS? |
Originally Posted by ecfc29
(Post 31333864)
What is IRROPS?
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Originally Posted by ecfc29
(Post 31333853)
Not sure why A C and C are relevant in answering the question?
The airline in question does not fly from B to C, so it is with a partner airline. But the ticket is essentially from A - B outbound and B - A - C inbound with the carrier operating A - B and B - A and B - C is operated by another carrier. But its one ticket. Just because a partner carrier is operating the last leg doesn't necessarily preclude a rerouting due to IRROPS. It's possible a cancelation on the "B to A' return segment could result in you rerouted via that same partner - or even a different partner airline - instead, and not touching "A" at all. It's probably not a huge chance in most cases may still be possible. Knowing what airlines and routes involved might provide a better guesstimate of the risk of that occurring. |
Originally Posted by 84fiero
(Post 31334025)
Details can help with nuances in particular circumstances/airlines that may affect your decision. The airline isn't going to find you out and hunt you down based on a Flyertalk posting!
Just because a partner carrier is operating the last leg doesn't necessarily preclude a rerouting due to IRROPS. It's possible a cancelation on the "B to A' return segment could result in you rerouted via that same partner - or even a different partner airline - instead, and not touching "A" at all. It's probably not a huge chance in most cases may still be possible. Knowing what airlines and routes involved might provide a better guesstimate of the risk of that occurring. |
Originally Posted by ecfc29
(Post 31333853)
Not sure why A C and C are relevant in answering the question?
The airline in question does not fly from B to C, so it is with a partner airline. But the ticket is essentially from A - B outbound and B - A - C inbound with the carrier operating A - B and B - A and B - C is operated by another carrier. But its one ticket. |
Originally Posted by ecfc29
(Post 31333853)
Not sure why A C and C are relevant in answering the question?
The airline in question does not fly from B to C, so it is with a partner airline. But the ticket is essentially from A - B outbound and B - A - C inbound with the carrier operating A - B and B - A and B - C is operated by another carrier. But its one ticket. Thus, the answer to your questions are: 1. Depending on where A-B and C are, this may or may not be a problem, logistical or otherwise. 2. Depending on what you mean by "partner airline" and which airlines they are, this may or may not be a problem, logistical or otherwise. |
Are you thinking about dropping C to A on the outbound? Otherwise I’m a little surprised that the ticket construction works out cheaper. If you do drop that first leg, the whole ticket will auto-cancel. |
Originally Posted by Often1
(Post 31334528)
You may not see why these are relevant, but as you can see they are.
Thus, the answer to your questions are: 1. Depending on where A-B and C are, this may or may not be a problem, logistical or otherwise. 2. Depending on what you mean by "partner airline" and which airlines they are, this may or may not be a problem, logistical or otherwise. I think the point is being missed - I have no concerns about being rerouted or about luggage - more about the principal of what I'm doing. |
There's lots of threads about the ethics of hidden city ticketing so no need to start a new one.
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Originally Posted by LondonElite
(Post 31335968)
Are you thinking about dropping C to A on the outbound? Otherwise I’m a little surprised that the ticket construction works out cheaper. If you do drop that first leg, the whole ticket will auto-cancel. And, for the OP's question: I think in Europe, it's fairly safe to do hidden-city ticketing. Stipulations by the airlines that prohibit it may actually be legally void. |
Originally Posted by speed.skater
(Post 31336760)
It's not surprising. Every travel hacking intro I know will tell you to try not just 1x/4x, but also 3x (the case of the OP) and 1x. 2x seem to be suggested less frequently.
And, for the OP's question: I think in Europe, it's fairly safe to do hidden-city ticketing. Stipulations by the airlines that prohibit it may actually be legally void. |
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