Inheritance of travel 'miles'
#1
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Inheritance of travel 'miles'
This question is not, initially, about any specific mileage scheme. I am trying to find out what various operators state in their rules about the ownership of mileage/points accrued - when the passenger dies.
- Do the miles/points die with the passenger?
- Can they be inherited as directed by the passengers Will?
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It varies from programme to programme. There is no universal truth, though in most cases the right to use the miles (which have always belonged to the airline that issued them) falls away. They are not owned by the scheme member.
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This question is not, initially, about any specific mileage scheme. I am trying to find out what various operators state in their rules about the ownership of mileage/points accrued - when the passenger dies.
- Do the miles/points die with the passenger?
- Can they be inherited as directed by the passengers Will?
Generally the flyer does not own the ff miles, but has use of them.
AA thread--->https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...aster-thd.html
UA thread---->Miles transfer / usage upon member death
BA thread---->What happens to BA Miles on death of member?
AS thread--->Transfer of Miles Before/After Death of Family Member
QF https://www.qantas.com/nz/en/frequen...onditions.html
8.3 Membership will terminate automatically on the death of a Member. Qantas Points earned but not yet redeemed or transferred prior to the death of the Member will be cancelled. Qantas Loyalty will close the Member's account on notification of the Member's death. Qantas Loyalty will not be liable for any loss or damage whatsoever suffered by any person as a result of such cancellation
Last edited by Mwenenzi; Mar 7, 2019 at 1:55 am Reason: added AS & BA
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It has been suggested that, if one is dealing with an airline whose policy for this is felt to be unfairly harsh, a survivor can obtain login information for the account and impersonate the account holder to get awards. Obviously, the practicality of doing this varies from situation to situation. It is also against the terms and conditions of every program and probably illegal in some jurisdictions, but unless one is using several million miles to fly a large family around the world in F, the chances of detection are small. (The most common way airlines detect fraudulent mileage use, by asking the traveler personal questions about the account holder that a random miles buyer couldn't answer, won't catch this because the traveler will know the answers.) I do not recommend or endorse this strategy, but it may be worth considering in some situations.
Last edited by Efrem; Mar 7, 2019 at 3:21 pm Reason: Fix typo: "awarss" for "awards"
#6
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Many thanks for all replies. I had searched for threads before asking and am glad to have them located for me. This is what I had expected and so, if one is 'slowing down' [fortunately just not yet!] then one needs to gift them to others in advance. If needs be, they can always buy you a trip, or upgrade you before your final downgrade ...
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Many thanks for all replies. I had searched for threads before asking and am glad to have them located for me. This is what I had expected and so, if one is 'slowing down' [fortunately just not yet!] then one needs to gift them to others in advance. If needs be, they can always buy you a trip, or upgrade you before your final downgrade ...
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Many thanks for all replies. I had searched for threads before asking and am glad to have them located for me. This is what I had expected and so, if one is 'slowing down' [fortunately just not yet!] then one needs to gift them to others in advance. If needs be, they can always buy you a trip, or upgrade you before your final downgrade ...
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