Moving out of the country. How to handle miles and points?
#1
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Moving out of the country. How to handle miles and points?
I am moving to Singapore in Aug. After I settle down, can I update the address and phone number on all my airline/hotel programs to my Singapore address and phone number? Is there any upside to leaving the US address as is, for any program? Is there any program that is not available for non US residents?
Thanks very much.
Thanks very much.
#2
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Yes it is as simple as that (few exceptions apply such as BA restriction on Australia/NZ addresses).
Some programmes may be less useful from some locations (e.g. if your FFP requires 4 flights on home airline to have status and live somewhere there is difficult/expensive to achieve).
However sometimes distance has advantages in terms of earning/burning sweetspots.
If you post the name of the programmes then more specific advice can be given.
Some programmes may be less useful from some locations (e.g. if your FFP requires 4 flights on home airline to have status and live somewhere there is difficult/expensive to achieve).
However sometimes distance has advantages in terms of earning/burning sweetspots.
If you post the name of the programmes then more specific advice can be given.
#4
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OP probably should think also about how to handle credit cards.
Is this expected to be a permanent or temporary move?
Student? New job? Transfer with current employer?
Likely extent of air travel, routes, fare class?
Does the OP currently have any elite status?
More information would be helpful.
Is this expected to be a permanent or temporary move?
Student? New job? Transfer with current employer?
Likely extent of air travel, routes, fare class?
Does the OP currently have any elite status?
More information would be helpful.
#5
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As you're seeking advice on what to do with multiple programs, we'll move this to MilesBuzz to discuss the implications of international relocation.
~beckoa, co-moderator Information Desk
~beckoa, co-moderator Information Desk
#6
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Join Date: Apr 2014
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Thank you all.
I will be moving to Singapore for a new job; no travel involved. I plan/hope to be there for AT LEAST 2 years. That should be plenty of time for me to visit all the places I want to visit in SE Asia. And if I really like the job and the city, I am open to staying back longer.
I mostly fly Southwest and Jetblue. And I do have miles and points with American, United, and most major hotel programs as well (through credit card sign ups). I am more concerned about southwest and jetblue. From my research, it doesn't look like I can use those points for flights/hotels once I move out of the country. At least jetblue has no expiration policy. It's a shame southwest points expire after 2 years, as I have almost 200K points with them. Until last week I assumed I could redeem it for gift cards (I was planning to redeem for Amazon. Not the best use, but given my situation I was ok with it). But found out you have to be a credit card holder to redeem for gift cards. And I cancelled my credit card just last month. Huge Bummer :-(
I will be moving to Singapore for a new job; no travel involved. I plan/hope to be there for AT LEAST 2 years. That should be plenty of time for me to visit all the places I want to visit in SE Asia. And if I really like the job and the city, I am open to staying back longer.
I mostly fly Southwest and Jetblue. And I do have miles and points with American, United, and most major hotel programs as well (through credit card sign ups). I am more concerned about southwest and jetblue. From my research, it doesn't look like I can use those points for flights/hotels once I move out of the country. At least jetblue has no expiration policy. It's a shame southwest points expire after 2 years, as I have almost 200K points with them. Until last week I assumed I could redeem it for gift cards (I was planning to redeem for Amazon. Not the best use, but given my situation I was ok with it). But found out you have to be a credit card holder to redeem for gift cards. And I cancelled my credit card just last month. Huge Bummer :-(
#7
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Generally, US-based credit cards and US-based loyalty schemes are more competitive and better value than those elsewhere. It would be best to keep credit cards open, especially the ones with no foreign exchange fee. You can then use them for their superior earnings rate and to keep the points and miles from expiring.
Many of the big airlines and hotel chains have better bonus offers for those with US addresses. Not always, but I'd suggest you keep everything with a US address unless there is a promotion that's better for Singapore residents than US. Wait until then to change it. (Given your situation, you might want to apply for a new Southwest card before you go.)
Many of the big airlines and hotel chains have better bonus offers for those with US addresses. Not always, but I'd suggest you keep everything with a US address unless there is a promotion that's better for Singapore residents than US. Wait until then to change it. (Given your situation, you might want to apply for a new Southwest card before you go.)
#8
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There are some very attractive credit cards in certain foreign countries, especially including Singapore, if you can qualify with a new job and foreign citizenship. You can get a card that gives access to a lounge at SIN and "two dine for the price of one" at many, many restaurants in Singapore (alcohol not included) all the time.
In addition, you'll probably want at least one credit card denominated in Singapore dollars since this is the currency for your local expenses and I assume your salary.
For Southwest, will you not be returning to the USA for any holidays, vacations, or special events during your first year?
In addition, you'll probably want at least one credit card denominated in Singapore dollars since this is the currency for your local expenses and I assume your salary.
For Southwest, will you not be returning to the USA for any holidays, vacations, or special events during your first year?
#9
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I don't see myself visiting more than once a year. I might take a trip or two up and down the west coast when I visit. But those flights are usually not expensive; it will probably cost me 10,000 points. But at this point, I don't have any better way to spend those sw points. I guess I just have to let it sit in my account.