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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 2:48 am
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you missed the point. the point was that Jet Airways did not do something innovative with keeping the brands separate. It was not by design, but because of legal and regulatory issues at the time the buyout happened.
Well, then they got lucky, didn't they?

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You are extrapolating the reliability of the entire network based on one domestic segment of an international flight. High school level statistics and probability should teach you how incorrect and off the mark that extrapolation is, based on your sample size.

BTW, AI127 is delayed an average 101 minutes between 1 Jan and 29 Feb this year - http://www.flightstats.com/go/Flight...19F2.web1:8009

Here are the comparable stats for BOM-EWR in the same period.
http://www.flightstats.com/go/Flight...19F2.web1:8009
No, I am stating that AI's reliability is decent because it has an 80% on time record. I am also stating that my personal experience agrees with the statistics...

I am not saying that because since I the days I flew AI 126 it was on time, AI 126 has a 100% on time record.

Originally Posted by SQ421
Not many would pay more to fly AI over any of these airlines.
I agree that most wouldn't fly AI over those airlines. However, if you take any route pair where there is only 1 airline that flies nonstop, the nonstop is pretty much guaranteed to be more expensive than the competition...
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 2:53 am
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Originally Posted by SQ421
Lets add pricing to the mix.

For random dates next month, on DEL-ORD, the following airlines are cheaper than AI

Air Canada
KLM
Swiss
Air France
British Airways
Lufthansa
Turkish Airlines
Cathay Pacific

For the same dates, between DEL-JFK, the following airlines are cheaper than AI
KLM
Air France
Etihad
Qatar
Virgin Atlantic
Swiss
Austrian
British Airways
Lufthansa
Turkish
Cathay Pacific
Jet Airways

Not many would pay more to fly AI over any of these airlines.
that's extremely surprising....i would have expected ai to be cheaper than most (if not all) of the above....
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 3:39 am
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Originally Posted by SQ421
You are extrapolating the reliability of the entire network based on one domestic segment of an international flight. High school level statistics and probability should teach you how incorrect and off the mark that extrapolation is, based on your sample size.
I would think high school maths is more advanced than that !

I think it's in class 6 or something that that start teaching you the logic employed here (Remember? If the train takes 2 hours to travel 100 km, how long will it take to travel 200 km?).
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Originally Posted by jasepl
(Remember? If the train takes 2 hours to travel 100 km, how long will it take to travel 200 km?).
depends....are you traveling during fog season or not????
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Originally Posted by jasepl
I would think high school maths is more advanced than that !

I think it's in class 6 or something that that start teaching you the logic employed here (Remember? If the train takes 2 hours to travel 100 km, how long will it take to travel 200 km?).
Indeed, high school maths is more advanced than that.

The equation d=rt is taught in 5th class for ICSE, 6th class for CBSE, and 7th class for CIE.

Still at a loss as to what that has to do with the topic of this thread
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 4:07 am
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Originally Posted by Keyser
depends....are you traveling during fog season or not????
Haha !! Spoken like a true Dilly-wallah !
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Originally Posted by PVDtoDEL
Well, then they got lucky, didn't they?


No, I am stating that AI's reliability is decent because it has an 80% on time record. I am also stating that my personal experience agrees with the statistics...
Since that link didn't bring up the actual records, I'll go again.

For the period 01/01/2012 to 29/02/2012, AI 126 had a 0% on time record. The average delay was 101 minutes while the maximum delay was 218 minutes.

For the same period, AI 101 (DEL-JFK) had a marginally better 1% on time record. Average delay was a 100 minutes and the maximum delay was 214 minutes.
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 5:26 am
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Originally Posted by PVDtoDEL
Indeed, high school maths is more advanced than that.

The equation d=rt is taught in 5th class for ICSE, 6th class for CBSE, and 7th class for CIE.

Still at a loss as to what that has to do with the topic of this thread
Well, for a start, my sledge had to do with statistical sampling and how OP's sample size of 2 flights was far from representative, even for AI126 (let alone for the entire airline).
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 5:51 am
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Originally Posted by SQ421
Well, for a start, my sledge had to do with statistical sampling and how OP's sample size of 2 flights was far from representative, even for AI126 (let alone for the entire airline).
Fair enough

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Since that link didn't bring up the actual records, I'll go again.

For the period 01/01/2012 to 29/02/2012, AI 126 had a 0% on time record. The average delay was 101 minutes while the maximum delay was 218 minutes.
Nope.

http://www.flightstats.com/go/Flight...irportCode=DEL

AI 126 has an 80% on time record, with an average delay of 24 minutes for the ORD-DEL flight. That seems pretty decent to me.
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Originally Posted by PVDtoDEL


Nope.

http://www.flightstats.com/go/Flight...irportCode=DEL

AI 126 has an 80% on time record, with an average delay of 24 minutes for the ORD-DEL flight. That seems pretty decent to me.
Pardon. The 0% record was for the flight in the other direction.

http://www.flightstats.com/go/Flight...irportCode=ORD

Beats me how a flight gets delayed departing from its home base.
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 5:55 am
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Originally Posted by SQ421
Pardon. The 0% record was for the flight in the other direction.

http://www.flightstats.com/go/Flight...irportCode=ORD

Beats me how a flight gets delayed departing from its home base.
Doesn't beat me in the slightest. Winter mornings in DEL = fog delays...

I do have to admit, the sound of a 0% on time record is downright shameful
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 5:57 am
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Originally Posted by PVDtoDEL
Indeed, high school maths is more advanced than that.
"maths"... and I thought you spoke American English!
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Originally Posted by hyderago
"maths"... and I thought you spoke American English
I learned American English. Since moving to India, my English has turned into some kind of mixture of American and Indian English...
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 6:05 am
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Originally Posted by PVDtoDEL
Doesn't beat me in the slightest. Winter mornings in DEL = fog delays...
AA 293 that departs an hour earlier seems to manage 91% on time rating on the same route.
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Old Mar 13, 2012 | 6:08 am
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Originally Posted by SQ421
AA 293 that departs an hour earlier seems to manage 91% on time rating on the same route.
Not sure exactly what time fog tends to come out...

Keyser, would there be a significant difference in amount of fog between 00:55 and 2:25 AM? Enough that the 00:55 flight is usually on time, but the 2:25 flight is often delayed?
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